Will Disneyland ruin Star War Land?

jcdean

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The D23 presentation left the impression that the Star Wars expansions in Anaheim and Orlando would be more or less identical. Given the space constraints in Disneyland, does that mean HS's version will be less than it could be?

The Force Awakens is at least as successful as Disney could have hoped. Universal is on the verge of announcing some sort of large project (3rd gate?). I can't help but think that WDW could support, and may soon need, a much larger and more elaborate Star Wars area.
 
The D23 presentation left the impression that the Star Wars expansions in Anaheim and Orlando would be more or less identical. Given the space constraints in Disneyland, does that mean HS's version will be less than it could be?

The Force Awakens is at least as successful as Disney could have hoped. Universal is on the verge of announcing some sort of large project (3rd gate?). I can't help but think that WDW could support, and may soon need, a much larger and more elaborate Star Wars area.
No. 14 acres is quite the large amount of space for a land. I don't think if DHS was the only place getting star wars tha it would be much bigger. DHS also has land for the future if they wanted to expand DHS even further.
 
The D23 presentation left the impression that the Star Wars expansions in Anaheim and Orlando would be more or less identical. Given the space constraints in Disneyland, does that mean HS's version will be less than it could be?

The Force Awakens is at least as successful as Disney could have hoped. Universal is on the verge of announcing some sort of large project (3rd gate?). I can't help but think that WDW could support, and may soon need, a much larger and more elaborate Star Wars area.
Each of these lands is going to be an unprecedented level of immersion and detail. Disneyland actually may help ensure that more money is spent on the attractions and design. If they were being designed separately each dollar in R&D would be going to one attraction. Because this will be cloned at least twice, and perhaps as many as 5 times, we know that they'll be much more willing to spend in meaningful ways.

Just be excited for what we're getting, it should be awesome! :)
 

Each of these lands is going to be an unprecedented level of immersion and detail. Disneyland actually may help ensure that more money is spent on the attractions and design. If they were being designed separately each dollar in R&D would be going to one attraction. Because this will be cloned at least twice, and perhaps as many as 5 times, we know that they'll be much more willing to spend in meaningful ways.

Just be excited for what we're getting, it should be awesome! :)
i cant wait to visit although im not sure this land will be any better or more immersed in detail than Cars land, Diagon Alley or Pandora, time will tell

i do think having two lands opening at basically the same time will help with crowds
 
Each of these lands is going to be an unprecedented level of immersion and detail. Disneyland actually may help ensure that more money is spent on the attractions and design. If they were being designed separately each dollar in R&D would be going to one attraction. Because this will be cloned at least twice, and perhaps as many as 5 times, we know that they'll be much more willing to spend in meaningful ways.

Just be excited for what we're getting, it should be awesome! :)

All in,huh?
 
i cant wait to visit although im not sure this land will be any better or more immersed in detail than Cars land, Diagon Alley or Pandora, time will tell

i do think having two lands opening at basically the same time will help with crowds

Come on...why are you being reasonable?

You're gonna bring some of us down.
 
i cant wait to visit although im not sure this land will be any better or more immersed in detail than Cars land, Diagon Alley or Pandora, time will tell

i do think having two lands opening at basically the same time will help with crowds
All in,huh?



I feel pretty confident that this will be better than Cars Land for sure. At the end of the day Cars Land is remarkably detailed and immersive, but not to the level of DA because the cast aren't pretending to be cars (maybe they were, but I didn't notice it... Not that it would be very believable anyway). What helps make DA so incredibly special is that every cook, janitor, salesperson, etc. is acting a part. The details and attractions only get you half way. When we walk into SW Land there will be droids roaming the streets. In the cantina you will be served by characters. There will be a level of unprecedented interactivity.

Scott Trowbridge who's leading this project apparently worked on a nifty immersive game at Disneyland in Frontierland all about interactivity. It has gained a group of steady followers. The Pirates that were recently in Adventureland also are testing guest interactivity. The possibilities are really endless. It's taking the idea of being a "Cast Member" to the next level.

All those ideas are being coupled with Robert Iger's most proud legacy item, Star Wars. I feel confidently he'll make this spectacular because this is his most tangible lasting effect on Disneyland and WDW. Not only that, but I see SW being shipped to Disney Resorts globally. Tokyo, Paris, Hong Kong. I thinks they're designing this with a drag and drop approach where it can be placed anywhere. In order for their partners to be interested in approval it has to meet certain quality standards. Which I fully expect it to.

Disney Parks are being asked to do more than ever before to compensate for ESPN's slowdown. What's the perfect way to turbocharge Resorts globally? Build copies of one land at each Resort based on an IP with a wide spread audience. This just makes too much sense.
 
I feel pretty confident that this will be better than Cars Land for sure. At the end of the day Cars Land is remarkably detailed and immersive, but not to the level of DA because the cast aren't pretending to be cars (maybe they were, but I didn't notice it... Not that it would be very believable anyway). What helps make DA so incredibly special is that every cook, janitor, salesperson, etc. is acting a part. The details and attractions only get you half way. When we walk into SW Land there will be droids roaming the streets. In the cantina you will be served by characters. There will be a level of unprecedented interactivity.

Scott Trowbridge who's leading this project apparently worked on a nifty immersive game at Disneyland in Frontierland all about interactivity. It has gained a group of steady followers. The Pirates that were recently in Adventureland also are testing guest interactivity. The possibilities are really endless. It's taking the idea of being a "Cast Member" to the next level.

All those ideas are being coupled with Robert Iger's most proud legacy item, Star Wars. I feel confidently he'll make this spectacular because this is his most tangible lasting effect on Disneyland and WDW. Not only that, but I see SW being shipped to Disney Resorts globally. Tokyo, Paris, Hong Kong. I thinks they're designing this with a drag and drop approach where it can be placed anywhere. In order for their partners to be interested in approval it has to meet certain quality standards. Which I fully expect it to.

Disney Parks are being asked to do more than ever before to compensate for ESPN's slowdown. What's the perfect way to turbocharge Resorts globally? Build copies of one land at each Resort based on an IP with a wide spread audience. This just makes too much sense.
great points
the one thing that puts DA into a new level of immersion is the buildings being so tall you cant see into other lands, you re completely immersed
i think we ll see the same thing with Pandora and hope we dont see Tower of terror in star wars land
also got to remember this will basically be twice the size of DA which in itself will be incredible
 
I don't think it works that way. If they really wanted to, they would make a bigger version for DHS without hessitation. 14 acres is quite enough land to dedicate to one single franchise.
 
I don't think it works that way. If they really wanted to, they would make a bigger version for DHS without hessitation. 14 acres is quite enough land to dedicate to one single franchise.

14 Acres is a lot of land.... but what is important, is what they put in those 14 acres. What will be the "net gain" for each of the Parks once you tally the removed attractions against the added attractions?
 
14 Acres is a lot of land.... but what is important, is what they put in those 14 acres. What will be the "net gain" for each of the Parks once you tally the removed attractions against the added attractions?

I don't think "net gain" is the goal. I think it's "addition by replacement"

Why? Employees. The labor reality is that they have to try and keep workforce growth at near zero - if not actually shrink it. That's just reality.

Even with mostly 3rd party vendors...springs is probably gonna have some growth. Animal kingdom definitely will.

I don't think it's a coincidence at all that they shuttered all the useless stuff in studios long ago - take some very undisney PR flak...it was to redistribute labor as best they could to get ahead of all these things.

And size isn't the Most important thing here - I agree...

...it's how they approach the land. Star Wars fans will not be happy if they take a "new fantasylnd" approach...which is heavy on asphalt and concrete faux mountains and comparatively light on substance.
 
14 Acres is a lot of land.... but what is important, is what they put in those 14 acres. What will be the "net gain" for each of the Parks once you tally the removed attractions against the added attractions?
Well so far two (supposed) d or e ticket attractions. I'm sure lots of food and merchandise to go along with it. Then you have toy story with 2, c or d ticket attractions. That's 4 total not counting what else they my do. They have removed, Backlot tour, American idol, magic of Disney animation and jack sparrow.

As for Disneyland, some of their closures are only temporary like fantasmic, the railroad, and the mark twain. They los Big thunder ranch permanently and some backstage stuff. They haven't lost any actual rides.
 
Kool Aid floweth?

Maybe, maybe not.

But I'm seeing a lot of chickens being counted when all you've got is an IOU for "Eggland".
 
I think it's possible they could decide to add additional stuff in Florida if they wanted to. Right now I think they would basically be concerned with getting both lands open. Making one of them bigger is on nobody's mind.
 
If anything the fact it's going to be a clone of Disneyland works in our favor since the general consensus is that standards are higher out west...

This gets parroted on here all the time - and I just don't see it in reality. I've been to Disneyland twice in the past 5-6 years. The first time I went in that span, Disneyland was obviously in need of attention. There just wasn't the level of attention to detail & maintenance out there that we saw in Orlando. I saw peeling paint, grumpy cast members, etc. Three years ago when I went back that had definitely changed, and everything was in shipshape.

I think perhaps what some of you are seeing is the push to bring things up to speed out there that has happened over the past five years. Before that, the place was languishing.
 












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