Why would someone do this?

[notnothin]

dearest rusty, last time i checked we discontinued the Caste system in this country

His commentary mentions nothing of a caste system. Those are simple facts.

 

[ducklite]

I think it is inconsiderate for someone WITHOUT children to go to a place which is completely catered towards children (DISNEYWORLD) and moan when children are making a racket. The adults without children are the ones who are out of place.

So it's perfectly acceptable for a few overtired, cranky kids and their oblivious or selfish parents to disrupt the dinner of a hundred other people, jsut because it's WDW?

Using that train of through it's perfectly acceptable for me to pick my nose and flick buggers in the air while I skip down Main Street screaming "I Am Henry the 8th I Am" the whole way, right?

Anne

 

[dalt01]

probobly time to close this thing, the "upper class" seems to have arrived

 

[wdwobsessed]

I think it is inconsiderate for someone WITHOUT children to go to a place which is completely catered towards children (DISNEYWORLD) and moan when children are making a racket. The adults without children are the ones who are out of place.

Amen coppertop!

With my kids in a restaurant it's hit or miss. Sometimes they are great and well behaved ... other times they are not. BUT even if they are messing around they are fine once they get the food in front of them to keep them occupied.

However ... if they were a crying mess we would leave.

I think the issue is if they are really disruptive as in screaming, crying, running around or such behavoir they need to GO!

But if they are just being "Kids" ... turning around in thier chair or spilling something by accident ... then give them a break they are just kids.

I think some posters have had the latter ... screaming kids that are out of control that goes on and on and does not stop ... if that is true they should be asked to leave...

Other posters seem to be annoyed at NORMAL kid behavoir like spilling or just being a little noisy ...

Maybe an adult only cruise would be more appropriate for those who can't stand normal child behavoir?

It all depends on the situaiton.

WDWO

 

[Cool-Beans]

... it's perfectly acceptable for me to pick my nose and flick buggers in the air while I skip down Main Street screaming "I Am Henry the 8th I Am" the whole way, right?

Anne

Yes, I'd pay extra to see that.

 

[wdwobsessed]

Using that train of through it's perfectly acceptable for me to pick my nose and flick buggers in the air while I skip down Main Street screaming "I Am Henry the 8th I Am" the whole way, right?

Anne

DANG!!!! There goes my day one intenerary!

LOL

WDWO

 

[dalt01]

was that you?

 

[notnothin]

probobly time to close this thing, the "upper class" seems to have arrived

I wouldn't go that far. However, if you think that there aren't different classes, you are kidding yourself. Our own government makes such a distinction based on family income. Nobody is taking any sort of snobby, upper-class approach. I think you are reading a little too much into things.

 

[Mackey Mouse]

I must say one of the previous poster had some very good points..


"If you over-praise kids for every little thing and they are never held accountable for things, they are going to be in for a RUDE awakening because the real world DOES NOT CARE about their self-esteem. Their future boss cares that they do their job. Period. Praise them when it is EARNED and it will carry more weight and mean something."

"Bottom line: Let the kids know your expectations BEFORE you enter the restaurant and the consequences for not meeting them. If you already know your kids can't handle it, don't it to them (or others). "

 

[notnothin]

... it's perfectly acceptable for me to pick my nose and flick buggers in the air while I skip down Main Street screaming "I Am Henry the 8th I Am" the whole way, right?

Yes, I'd pay extra to see that.

Now I must admit, this would be pretty funny indeed.

 

[dalt01]

ever notice when people are in their car they think they are invisible so they just pick away???

 

[ExPirateShopGirl]

(Flame Proof Suit in Place)

1) OK, let's face it.
2) There ARE people who should not go to upscale restaurants.
3) There ARE lower class people in the world.
4) Not discrimination, just a fact.
5) The dining plan allows these folks to go places they normally would not.
6) Frequently, others who do go to these places are inconvenienced.
7) I don't know how to solve the problem.
8) But, I usually
. . . ask for a manager
. . . ask him to follow me
. . . go to obnoxious people and let them know they are obnoxious
. . . then let the manager handle it from there
. . . without my intervention, I know the manager would not interfere

1) Money and class do not go hand in hand
2) The dining plan is available to everyone, even the very wealthy
3) Wanting to get value for a dollar is not a crime
4) Discreetly making one's concerns known is generally the best way to achieve results
5) These truths are in no way related to parenting skills
6) I can't believe I'm using your dorky numbering system

 

[kkevcamsmom]

I have kids and and posted earlier. I do have to say I was taken back abit by the harshness of the OP's first post but I can also see her point. This was not a 'cater' to kids dinning area. From what I can tell this is a very upscale place, the prices on the childs menu made me spit coffee on my keyboard...lol

If your kids are tired, worn out exhausted, then let them eat somewhere that caters to them, don't make them sit for 1 to 2 hours for a meal they wont care to eat anyway.

I think there is a diffence between your kid having a meltdown and you being able to calm them or attempt to (then the parents take the child out if you can't) and the parent that ignores the child when the child is clearly at the breaking point.

I re-read the OP's original post again and I think she was more frustrated with the parents for not taking care of their obviously distraught and overwhelmed child.

JMHO

Lori

 

[Mackey Mouse]

I am still here, still moderating and now am chuckling..

I truly feel this thread has run the race and yet is still going. Kind of like the little train that would or could.. whatever that was, since I do not have small children anymore, I forgot.

I will not tolerate personal attacks and some of you are getting just a little cranky here... please.. keep it real.. keep discussing if you so choose or walk away from the thread...

 

[dalt01]

anne, your not funny looking are you???

 

[dalt01]

some think i am, 4ft 3in, 460 lbs, and that wart, aghhhhh. but my kids,just as quiet as church mice.

 

[IWISHFORDISNEY]

OK first I totally didnt mean anything by the do you have kids thing other than.....I personally didnt realize the challanges of a simple dinner until we had kids. A little history...married 12 years before we had children and mutiple trips to the world without kids and it is going to be way different this time around.

Second thanks for the tip on the the time for the ressie I may change it to 5pm now or do you think 5:15 would get us at the buffet around 5:30. TIA.

 

[LVSWL]

Hey! I did not read through ALL ten pages, but I wanted to point out (if no one did earlier) that Citrico's is TWO dining credits. I don't find that a good deal at all. I have NEVER let my son disturb others in a restaurant by talking loudly or getting up or any of that stuff. He is 8 and has eaten in very upscale places. He brings a book to read or QUIETLY plays w/ his gameboy.

As far as it being ALL the parents, I can tell you (as a teacher), sometimes IT IS the kids. In our society that has gone a bit overboard in protecting childrens' self-esteem , it seems that anything goes and the kids are believing every blown out of proportion praise that is sent their way.

Guess what? If you over-praise kids for every little thing and they are never held accountable for things, they are going to be in for a RUDE awakening because the real world DOES NOT CARE about their self-esteem. Their future boss cares that they do their job. Period. Praise them when it is EARNED and it will carry more weight and mean something.

I know I sound harsh, but as a fifth grade teacher I know that my students know that I love them when I challenge them to be better and praise real successes.

Bottom line: Let the kids know your expectations BEFORE you enter the restaurant and the consequences for not meeting them. If you already know your kids can't handle it, don't it to them (or others).

 

[misslissa]

rich snobs??

Money has nothing to do with manners. So, I don't know who you are trying to insult.

 

[WDWFAN9]

I think it is inconsiderate for someone WITHOUT children to go to a place which is completely catered towards children (DISNEYWORLD) and moan when children are making a racket. The adults without children are the ones who are out of place.

Oh man, I never have posted on this type of thread before, but I just have to ask coppertop - you are kidding right?? Who says that WDW is exclusively for children? Certainly not Disney advertising, I loved the commercials of the "older" couples having a blast at WDW. And as it has already been pointed out - WDW is a top wedding/honeymoon destination, as well as a very popular convention destination too.

And as a mom of four, I certainly wouldn't want to be seated next to kids behaving as the OP posted. Bottom line, kids having meltdowns do not belong in fine dining settings. A single moment ok, but when the type of behavior, make that misbehavior, disrupts the entire surroundings and is allowed to continue it is time for the child to be removed. I just don't see how that is being unreasonable.