My mom has no interest in the VGF GV. She thinks she would feel uncomfortable with the decor. We hope to try VGF in a 2BD if we can’t get into the cabins in January (bought in direct when the points were first released), and we will see how we feel there. Otherwise we will use them for SAP or for times when we need to sleep 10 and can’t get into a 3BD somewhere else.
Sure, but they'll have the drive the entire resale market down. I love SSR, OKW, and AKV but they represent the bottom of the resale market. This weekend alone, I've seen Poly contracts be almost immediately sold in the 150s. How much further down do you expect it to be driven down if the bottom of the 2054+ resorts are selling at 140+? Recession or not, people will buy Poly tower at whatever Disney lists it at given its prime real estate location.
I think if Poly2 is in a separate association, and goes on sale with substantial incentives that are competitive with Poly1 resale, just like VGF2, you’ll see Poly1 resale go down another 15-20 points. That’s why I wouldn’t buy Poly1 now.
If you think that the "hit" to Poly 1 would only be $15-20 AND you don't care about staying at Poly 2 wouldn't that argue for buying a fully loaded Poly 1 contract now? You could get 2-3 years worth of point use between now and then, valued at roughly $20pt - MF (around $8/year). So conservatively that might be worth $24-36, plus the "value" of being in charge of your own reservations. We can argue about time value of money but I also think about time value of vacations.
Yeah, I mean, it’s all speculation at this point. We can all create a scenario that makes sense with any combination reasoning. I have a hard time seeing the resale values of any resort, let alone Poly1, drop. Poly has dropped quite a bit already since the news of the tower coming. Economically speaking, it was the best buy before the drop in value. If it continues this path, I’d have to think real hard about swapping contracts. We’ll see how it goes. For everyone’s sake, I hope Disney announces the details sooner rather than later, so we can end the speculation lol and start the discussion on the amount of points we’re all buying
Pretty sure DS will be asking Santa for Poly 2 incentive luggage for Christmas 2024!Yeah, I mean, it’s all speculation at this point. We can all create a scenario that makes sense with any combination reasoning. I have a hard time seeing the resale values of any resort, let alone Poly1, drop. Poly has dropped quite a bit already since the news of the tower coming. Economically speaking, it was the best buy before the drop in value. If it continues this path, I’d have to think real hard about swapping contracts. We’ll see how it goes. For everyone’s sake, I hope Disney announces the details sooner rather than later, so we can end the speculation lol and start the discussion on the amount of points we’re all buying
All good points! And good natured too. Here’s one thing I hope we can agree on…having new construction on the monorail route, regardless of associations and resale restrictions and what not, will be a good thing! I think it’ll even be fun to watch the building take shape, if the noise isn’t too much of an inconvenience.
Will Disney control for the fact that VGF is located at their flagship resort, on the monorail loop, walkable to MK while Riviera is located at a moderate resort? That, more than resale restrictions, may be what’s driving sales to Gf instead of riviera.
It seems likely sales will slow down once we get closer to Poly opening. The poly tower just seems a lot more attractive to me for most purchasers than the Riviera.
Why does it matter if they're new or existing buyers? The points are points regardless of who has them.
I think the thought is that existing buyer activity is less likely to carry over in the future. It’s interesting how much better the deal
