Why have dress code for Signatures if it's not enforced?

[kmores]

I'm with you on this one, Tiger926.

You said you were at a wedding. There is certainly a minumum level of dress expected at a wedding. Would people think it would be appropriate to wear anything they feel like at a wedding? I hope not!

again, this may be purely regional, as I live in the south. there is a couple that got married in hunting gear. the bride's dress and bridesmaids dresses were all made out of it. and we own a DJ company and do weddings and parties often. I guess I am not as bothered by what people wear. however, I can tell you - based on the venue and the location (especially where the people are from), you can get everything from the expected formal/cocktail attire to stuff that makes you wonder if they realize the "rules". I think some people are just clueless, whereas others don't care about the rules.

I myself have found this an eye opener as a forum. I didn't realize "Signature" meant another level of whatever. I have looked at the menus and descriptions of the dining experiences and got really excited about booking these restaurants and eventually getting to try the food. I am most likely one of those who would cluelessly go to one of these restaurants and probably not be "accepted" or would be treated rudely because I wasn't dressed "properly". I don't think I would be worried about what the others were wearing because I would be so excited to be there. My family is one of those more "demonstrative" families - we usually are somewhat loud, although not intentionally.

I am spending very hard earned cash to go to Disney and these restaurants. guess my money isn't good enough is the message I am getting. Maybe I should go and forget about going to these "signature" restaurants. Sorry, but really sounds like a lot of elitism to me. Since I don't have the Rolex watch and platinum card, guess my presence would be embarrassing to others. well, glad to know now instead of ultimately making a fool of myself and not realizing I am ruining other diners' experiences. so much for Disney magic. you go to get away from the stark realities of the world...to be treated well no matter what your status. well, at least the CM aren't rude. which is what I thought manners was all about?

 

[Tricia1972]

I don't think that anyone is asking for expensive and fancy clothes at signature restaurants. I also never sensed from another post that a Rolex was expected of anyone and I feel bad that anyone feels that way.

Not wearing swimwear doesn't say elitist to me. I think that the Disney dress code for signature dining is quite minimal and doesn't signal anyone out in that we all have an outfit or two that fits the bill. I believe the original point of this post, not what it's morphed into, is why does Disney have this dress code if they aren't going to enforce their rules.

 

[TDC Nala]

in other words, why does Disney have a dress code if they're going to let in swimsuits and muscle shirts anyway.

If I remember the prior post right, I think the guy in the muscle shirt did have a Rolex.

 

[Tink888]

again, this may be purely regional, as I live in the south. there is a couple that got married in hunting gear. the bride's dress and bridesmaids dresses were all made out of it. and we own a DJ company and do weddings and parties often. I guess I am not as bothered by what people wear. however, I can tell you - based on the venue and the location (especially where the people are from), you can get everything from the expected formal/cocktail attire to stuff that makes you wonder if they realize the "rules". I think some people are just clueless, whereas others don't care about the rules.

I myself have found this an eye opener as a forum. I didn't realize "Signature" meant another level of whatever. I have looked at the menus and descriptions of the dining experiences and got really excited about booking these restaurants and eventually getting to try the food. I am most likely one of those who would cluelessly go to one of these restaurants and probably not be "accepted" or would be treated rudely because I wasn't dressed "properly". I don't think I would be worried about what the others were wearing because I would be so excited to be there. My family is one of those more "demonstrative" families - we usually are somewhat loud, although not intentionally.

I am spending very hard earned cash to go to Disney and these restaurants. guess my money isn't good enough is the message I am getting. Maybe I should go and forget about going to these "signature" restaurants. Sorry, but really sounds like a lot of elitism to me. Since I don't have the Rolex watch and platinum card, guess my presence would be embarrassing to others. well, glad to know now instead of ultimately making a fool of myself and not realizing I am ruining other diners' experiences. so much for Disney magic. you go to get away from the stark realities of the world...to be treated well no matter what your status. well, at least the CM aren't rude. which is what I thought manners was all about?

I've read a lot of these types of threads on the resorts boards and I've been following this thread and swore I wouldn't post again but after reading the quoted post and another from a woman who was treated poorly (IMO) by another guest at the Cali Grill because she wore nice flip flops due a foot problem, I find myself posting again because it makes me a little sad.

I agree with the OP that if Disney is going to make a rule, whether it be dress codes, pool hopping, heelys, etc., they should make every effort to enforce it. And I'm sorry for her that her Mother's Day experience was diminshed by the appearance of other guests.

To that end, I don't feel that anyone reading this post should ever feel intimidated by or nervous about dining at one of Disney's Signature restaurants. Below is the dress code per Disney's website for all Signature restaurants with the exception of Victoria & Alberts which has a more formal dress code and to be honest, shouldn't even be lumped in with the other Signatures IMO because it is a step above and more condusive to fine dining that you would find back home.

Dress Code Guidelines:
Men: Khakis, slacks, jeans, dress shorts, collared shirts. Sport coats are optional.
Ladies: Capris, skirts, dresses, jeans, dress shorts.

NOT permitted in dining room: Tank tops, swimwear, hats for gentleman, cut offs, or torn clothing. While t-shirts are now allowed, the policy remains that t-shirts with offensive language and/or graphics are not acceptable

The dress codes are very relaxed almost to the point of being casual and there is no reason for any guest to ever feel that they might not fit in. If any of the signature restaurants were that high-end they would follow suit to V&A and not allow children either (no flames please, I have kids and they are well mannered but I wouldn't take them to V&A even if it was allowed).

Personally, what other people are wearing doesn't really matter to me and it doesn't lessen my dining experience. If it does bother others, I can respect that but as I've stated before, bad behavior would ruin a meal for me, not how someone looks.

I am not trying to offend anyone on these boards. We are all entitled to our opinions and although I may not agree I will respect yours. Just a thought though - there are imperfections everywhere in life. To allow them to lessen your experience is depriving yourself. We cannot control the actions or opinions of others, we can only control how we react them.

IMO the underlying tone of this thread has a lot to do with "class" or the perception of it. While I agree that it is important to follow rules and to teach our children manners and proper behavior, it is also important to teach tolerance to standards that may differ from our own. It is important to teach them to be non-judgmental as none of us ever really know the circumstances of someone else. It is important to teach true "class" which goes beyond manners and has more to do with having the grace to overlook someone else's flaws even though we might know better.

Disney first and foremost is a host that wants ALL of it's guests to feel welcome, wanted and worthy of it's hospitality. It's probably in the spirit of that philosphy that Disney sometimes overlooks it's dress code guidelines.

I apologize for the long post. JMHO.

 

[Island Mouse]

I'm with you on this one, Tiger926.

You said you were at a wedding. There is certainly a minumum level of dress expected at a wedding. Would people think it would be appropriate to wear anything they feel like at a wedding? I hope not!

I just wanted to comment on your remarks. We are in the middle of planning our wedding at WDW and believe it or not, we have had several of our guests ask what would be appropriate to wear to our wedding. Many people think of Disney and assume a very casual and relaxed environment. These are the people that have a hard time putting Walt Disney World and dress code in the same thought. Of course we politely informed our guests that even though it is WDW, it is still a wedding afterall, so semi-formal dress is expected of them.

 

[raidermatt]

The vast majority of people adhere to the posted dress code, which allows flip flops and t-shirts, and is not specific about muscle shirts.

True, some do not, and I know for a fact that at times Disney does enforce the code.

What I don't understand is if for some reason it matters that much to you what others are wearing, why would you prefer the dress code be ditched completely instead of inconsistently enforced?

Most people do stick to the code since it's there, but if you take it away completely you will certainly see even more casual dress than you do now. If the status quo bothers you, why would you want to move even further in the casual direction?

Really though, it's probably just something we are all going to have to learn to live with. Disney tried a somewhat stricter code that banned all t-shirts and flip flops and that didn't last very long at all.

Clearly they determined it wasn't what the majority of their customers wanted. In this case I think Disney got it right. As so many are so quick to point out, Disney is a business, and money from somebody in a t-shirt and flip flops counts the same as money from somebody dressed to the nines.

For every person not happy with the status quo, there must have been more who were annoyed by the attempt to change things. There are certain places where weather and the overall atmosphere make this just a fact of life. WDW is one of those places.

 

[Tiger926]

Wow! This discussion is still going - first time back as we had a national holiday yesterday, the wedding on Sunday and still am in unpacking hell.

I think most people have understood my intention in posting - as someone who understands the psychological impact of consistency, I questioned having a dress code if it's not enforced. If it's utilized in an inconsistent or non-existent manner, then there is no point to it at all. Almost everyone at the Yachtsmen that day was in very casual clothes and some were in total violation of the dress code - a ton of muscle shirts, pool flip flops and several pair of torn jean cut off shorts (men). Like I said, we didn't notice these types of outfits at any of the other Signature restaurants we dined at, except for Brown Derby.

I am a Special Education teacher, so I observe and analyze students all day, so I do this in my sleep. I didn't have a spreadsheet, nor did I gossip or give anyone dirty looks at all, as I assumed that perhaps some of them did lose their luggage, or, misunderstand the dress code. Once we entered the restaurant and saw that we were the only ones in a very large section in dresses, collared shirts and nice looking shoes, we felt overdressed and awkward for a moment. Our just turned 5 yr old noticed that people were very casually dressed and asked about it - she is a foodie and has been eating in restaurants since she was born. We have worked very hard to teach her about manners and decorum, so she knew instantly that the atmosphere that we were in demanded more than what most of the patrons were wearing. I quietly explained to her that people dress differently and it was ok, and even she said that they should not have on hats and pool clothes as it was a restaurant - go figure!

Like I said, my intention was not to insult anyone. I am not judgmental at all, despite what many of you think and I would never give anyone a dirty look for anything that they were wearing, despite the fact that the guy in the muscle shirt was hanging out of his clothes in a slobby manner - not appropriate for any type of dining experience, in my humble opinion.

I am only in my 30s, yet manners are important to me and my family, so I truly believe that by Disney not enforcing their very simple and basic dress code, they are making things worse for those of us who do as they have now insulted me and made my family feel awkward. The fact is, from a psychological standpoint (I'm a rules kind of gal), I would rather see them do away with the dress code at places like this as it just was not working that day at all. Perhaps we dined in an isolated instance, but honestly, most of the restaurant was in very casual attire; therefore, if that is the norm here, then just do away with the dress code at this restaurant, end of story. If it's isolated, then perhaps on our next visit, things will be different.

Regarding people feeling as if they can't eat at Signature restaurants, this didn't come from me either. I was questioning the enforcement of the very basic dress code in principal and not what that dress code should be. The guy in the Rolex was the most disgustingly dressed guy in the place as was most of his family - rude, obnoxious and loud all the way around! All my family and I were looking for was a nice Mother's Day dinner - did we have it? Yup! This was tied with our best meal (Cali Grill was also the best) that we experienced in 15 days of dining. Was it our best experience in regards to the atmosphere? No, as the patrons there that day were not only dressed very casually, but many of them were very loud and raucous as well. We will definitely eat here again, and will dress the same way as that is what is appropriate to us for this type of eating establishment. I am proud that my very young daughter knows decorum, tact and manners at such a young age - it's too bad many of the middle aged people we saw that day, do not. I don't care if flip flops are part of the dress code - as an adult, you should know that your .99 pair of Old Navy pool flip flops that look like the dog has chewed on them shouldn't be worn out to anyplace but the pool, but this is just my humble opinion. The fact that people chose to wear them, tight muscle shirts and bathing suits to a nicer dining establishment just shows us again that many people have a very limited sense of manners, at best.

Thanks for the discussion. Many interesting points of view, Tiger

 

[kat777]

I think people's behaviour is far more important than their clothing and a far better indication of "class" - someone once said that the richest, most well-bred person in the room is usually the person behaving badly...simply because they don't have anything to prove.

 

[Mermaid_Ariel]

What someone else is wearing does not affect your food or your table unless you let it. I don't think I've ever really paid attention to how someone else was dressed while I was at dinner and I differently would not let it bother me.

I completely agree with this. When I go out to dinner, I really don't care what anyone else is doing. I'm focused on my company, my family and the experience that we're having as a unit. But, I understand why people would find it offensive I just don't understand why it ruins your personal experience is all.

Also, at Disney it IS a theme park as someone else mentioned. I usually don't have room to pack nicer clothes for one or two dinners. I steer clear at V&A but when we went to Le Cellier I went in shorts, sneakers, Minnie Ears and a tank top. To each their own is my point.

 

[PoohsFan1]

The vast majority of people adhere to the posted dress code, which allows flip flops and t-shirts, and is not specific about muscle shirts.

True, some do not, and I know for a fact that at times Disney does enforce the code..

That is so true, infact my DH and I went to Cali Grill last June for our "Date Night" and we were both dressed in dress shorts and dress sandals. As we were downstairs checking in, there was another family (4 out of 5 of them) were dressed for the dress code but their teenage son had on basketball shorts and a basketball loose fit tank and sneakers. The parents were arguing with the CMs because the CMs would not let the teenager go up to the restaurant looking the way he was looking. The parents argued that when they called to make the ADRs and was givin the Dress Code spiel, the parents asked if it was o.k. for their teenage son to where the outfit that he was wearing, and the CM on the phone said that it was fine. Not sure of the exact outcome of the argument, but last I heard as we were walking to the elevators was that the parents wanted to know if the CMs could hold their ADR so the teenager could go back and change.

 

[TommyTutone]

At this point, I'd like to appologize to all the diners at the Olive Garden this afternoon when I showed up in a gray t-shirt and shorts, plus sneakers. My husband also had a t-shirt on with shorts and sneakers. Our son was the most reasonably dressed in plaid shorts from American Eagle and a dark green t-shirt to match.

Haha, based on the quality of food at Olive Garden (not including soup and salad), their dress code should be pants-optional. Fine food calls for fine dress and this is NOT it.

 

[Mermaid_Ariel]

Haha, based on the quality of food at Olive Garden (not including soup and salad), their dress code should be pants-optional. Fine food calls for fine dress and this is NOT it.

Wow. Judgmental much?

 

[Quiksilvr]

What I don't understand is if for some reason it matters that much to you what others are wearing, why would you prefer the dress code be ditched completely instead of inconsistently enforced?

Most people do stick to the code since it's there, but if you take it away completely you will certainly see even more casual dress than you do now. If the status quo bothers you, why would you want to move even further in the casual direction?

I feel the way I do because Disney is selling me a "Signature" dining experience, not the Olive Garden. As a "fine diner", I have an expectation based upon the guidelines as Disney has set them out. The dress code is part of the experience I'm buying. If I'm not going to get consistent enforcement, then why build the expectation into the experience? If Disney is content to permit people to wear whatever they want, then Disney should say that, and we'll all have the same expectations. I feel that Disney shouldn't try to sell me a fine dining experience if they aren't willing to follow through with their end of the bargain. Would I still eat at California Grill or Flying Fish or the Brown Derby? Of course. I like the food! My expectations about the rest of the experience would change, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I know it may be hard to understand, but to me it makes sense: if you're not going to give me a fine dining experience (or as close to one as Disney can reasonably be expected to make) then don't try to sell me one!

To the poster who said something to the effect of: "to each their own, that's my motto," I think that response is indicative of the whole problem. That mentality goes back to my prior post about having respect for the rules of the restaurant and for your fellow diners. No offense, but I don't care how you dress at Le Cellier because (as far as I know) Le Cellier doesn't have a dress code. Wear whatever you want. If, however, you choose to go to a restaurant that does have a dress code and you flaunt it because you believe "what I do shouldn't affect anyone else" then your attitude shows a blatant disregard for the rules. If you don't have room in your suitcase for clothes that fit the dress code, then don't go to the restaurant. That may not be a popular opinion, but I stand by it.

I find it interesting how people think rules shouldn't apply to them because they believe it is difficult to comply. If only that's how it worked in the real world... of course, if that is how it worked in the real world, I'd be out of a job. Who needs a lawyer if you can get away with ignoring rules you don't feel like following?

 

[Figaro]

I don't think Disney's dress codes for their signature restaurants are at all unreasonable. And the one time that we ended up sitting next to people who didn't follow that code, I asked the waiter to move us to a place where I didn't have to look at the man's hairy armpits with clumps of deodorant stuck to the hair (shudder). Of course I did this quietly, as Miss Manners and I agree that two wrongs don't make a right.

I pretty much have to take responsibility for what is going to disturb me and then make my decisions about what to do based on that. I've requested to be moved and I have also decided to leave a restaurant if there is something happening that bothers me enough that I know I will not be able to enjoy my meal.

 

[maxiesmom]

I don't think Disney's dress codes for their signature restaurants are at all unreasonable. And the one time that we ended up sitting next to people who didn't follow that code, I asked the waiter to move us to a place where I didn't have to look at the man's hairy armpits with clumps of deodorant stuck to the hair (shudder). Of course I did this quietly, as Miss Manners and I agree that two wrongs don't make a right.

I pretty much have to take responsibility for what is going to disturb me and then make my decisions about what to do based on that. I've requested to be moved and I have also decided to leave a restaurant if there is something happening that bothers me enough that I know I will not be able to enjoy my meal.

then



I think Disney's dress code is pretty lenient. But I get the impression from some posts that they don't like the whole casual vibe of it. People need to keep in mind that what constitutes "Fine Dining" at Disney is not what is called "Fine Dining" on the rest of the planet. If seeing people in jeans and shorts would ruin the experience for you, then you should skip the sit-down restaurants at Disney altogether. Except for V&A's.

 

[raidermatt]

I feel the way I do because Disney is selling me a "Signature" dining experience, not the Olive Garden. As a "fine diner", I have an expectation based upon the guidelines as Disney has set them out. The dress code is part of the experience I'm buying. If I'm not going to get consistent enforcement, then why build the expectation into the experience? If Disney is content to permit people to wear whatever they want, then Disney should say that, and we'll all have the same expectations. I feel that Disney shouldn't try to sell me a fine dining experience if they aren't willing to follow through with their end of the bargain. Would I still eat at California Grill or Flying Fish or the Brown Derby? Of course. I like the food! My expectations about the rest of the experience would change, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I know it may be hard to understand, but to me it makes sense: if you're not going to give me a fine dining experience (or as close to one as Disney can reasonably be expected to make) then don't try to sell me one!

But by having a dress code, even one that is only sometimes enforced, you are getting something closer to what you are looking for than if if there were no dress code at all.

Also, the dress code allows flip flops, shorts, t-shirts, and is non-specific about lots of other things. Even if that dress code were enforced with an iron fist, does that really set the expectation of a typical fine dining experience?

I guess what I'm getting at is that I understand some have certain expectations about fine dining experiences, but when it comes to WDW (and some other resort destinations), those expectations don't seem to be all that realistic. V&A's being the exception of course.

 

[Quiksilvr]

But by having a dress code, even one that is only sometimes enforced, you are getting something closer to what you are looking for than if if there were no dress code at all.

Also, the dress code allows flip flops, shorts, t-shirts, and is non-specific about lots of other things. Even if that dress code were enforced with an iron fist, does that really set the expectation of a typical fine dining experience?

I guess what I'm getting at is that I understand some have certain expectations about fine dining experiences, but when it comes to WDW (and some other resort destinations), those expectations don't seem to be all that realistic. V&A's being the exception of course.

I agree with your point. If you notice in my earlier comments, I stated that I understand that WDW is a theme park resort and that my expectations of a fine dining experience have to be adjusted somewhat to account for that. I also said that I think the WDW dress code is an acceptable compromise for those of us who want fine dining and for those of us who want "come as you are". Of course the experience won't be a typical fine dining experience, but it can be as close as Disney can reasonably be expected to make it, especially considering the dress code that Disney has set.

I also understand your point that a mostly-complied-with-but-not-always-enforced dress code gets me closer to fine dining than no dress code at all, but there is still part of me that gets annoyed when people ignore the dress code (I also get annoyed when people cut in line or swear a lot in front of little kids... what can I say, I don't like rude people). If there was no dress code, then there would be nothing to get upset over. Everyone can wear whatever they want, Disney can stop billing the restaurants as fine dining (since the only thing "fine" about them at that point is the price tag), and we can all enjoy our vacations. Like I said before, I would still go to California Grill because I like the food, and I would probably wear Bermuda shorts and a polo shirt. I also wouldn't be expecting anything more.

I may be hypersensitive to this because I spend all day with rules and forcing my clients to comply with them (even when they don't want to) but I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way. If it is me just being difficult then I apologize.

 

[abolanwoski]

then



I think Disney's dress code is pretty lenient. But I get the impression from some posts that they don't like the whole casual vibe of it. People need to keep in mind that what constitutes "Fine Dining" at Disney is not what is called "Fine Dining" on the rest of the planet. If seeing people in jeans and shorts would ruin the experience for you, then you should skip the sit-down restaurants at Disney altogether. Except for V&A's.

Exactly. It's a theme park folks. And let's face it, in the majority of this country you can go into Ruth's Chris for a $200 steak dinner and wear jeans. Also, you can totally adhere to the dress code and still look like sh*t

Dress Code Guidelines:
Men: Khakis, slacks, jeans, dress shorts, collared shirts. Sport coats are optional.
Ladies: Capris, skirts, dresses, jeans, dress shorts.

NOT permitted in dining room: Tank tops, swimwear, hats for gentleman, cut offs, or torn clothing. While t-shirts are now allowed, the policy remains that t-shirts with offensive language and/or graphics are not acceptable

So if I wear a fitted silk black tank top, I'll be violating the dress code. While the guy in the faded jeans, rumpled stained t-shirt and sneakers will be in the clear. It's not just what you wear, it's how you wear it.

 

[Tiger926]

I agree with your point. If you notice in my earlier comments, I stated that I understand that WDW is a theme park resort and that my expectations of a fine dining experience have to be adjusted somewhat to account for that. I also said that I think the WDW dress code is an acceptable compromise for those of us who want fine dining and for those of us who want "come as you are". Of course the experience won't be a typical fine dining experience, but it can be as close as Disney can reasonably be expected to make it, especially considering the dress code that Disney has set.

I also understand your point that a mostly-complied-with-but-not-always-enforced dress code gets me closer to fine dining than no dress code at all, but there is still part of me that gets annoyed when people ignore the dress code (I also get annoyed when people cut in line or swear a lot in front of little kids... what can I say, I don't like rude people). If there was no dress code, then there would be nothing to get upset over. Everyone can wear whatever they want, Disney can stop billing the restaurants as fine dining (since the only thing "fine" about them at that point is the price tag), and we can all enjoy our vacations. Like I said before, I would still go to California Grill because I like the food, and I would probably wear Bermuda shorts and a polo shirt. I also wouldn't be expecting anything more.

I may be hypersensitive to this because I spend all day with rules and forcing my clients to comply with them (even when they don't want to) but I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way. If it is me just being difficult then I apologize.

You and I sound so much alike and I don't think you are being difficult at all.

This has been my point all along - the dress code is very casual and not hard to follow at all, yet people seemed to have trouble with it that day, so that's why I question the point of it? It doesn't take rocket science to realize that muscle shirts aren't appropriate in a place with linens and fine china, and if it does, then adjust that particular code. If that isn't an option, then enforce the very easy dress code that is in effect. If there is an issue here because of Stormalong Bay, then adjust the code accordingly.

For us, although there were many people following dress code, they had on clothes that I would not wear to that particular kind of restaurant - shorts, t-shirts, hats, etc., so those people combined with the dress code violators really made for a theme park/pool party atmosphere and this was not what we were expecting at all.

It's a very interesting discussion because as someone who teaches at-risk kids about social norms, rules, etc., it bugs me to no end to read post after post here on the DIS, no matter what the subject, from adults who have the "I don't care how I dress attitude as they should just take my money," or, the patrons who feel that rules don't apply to them, something along the lines of, "If you don't like what I'm wearing, then don't look!" This is why my students have difficulty in the real world - when rules are posted and then not followed or enforced, it makes for difficult situations all around.

We were very surprised by what we saw that day - our expectations were obviously too high as we really thought we'd see women in dresses and men in collared shirts. When we saw people in very casual clothes, although within dress code, and then many dress code violators, it really threw us off as the whole atmosphere of the restaurant that day was much different than we had expected. As the above poster so eloquently put it: It's not what you wear, but how you wear it." Although shorts are allowed, I wasn't expecting to see faded, rumpled and sweat laden running shorts that people had just come from the theme park in (we heard them talking about spending too long at the park and almost missing their ADR), or, flip flops that look like the dog had chewed them up.

It was a great eye-opener for us and my hubby immediately commented when we left that he was not packing so many good clothes for our next trip - that'll be a most interesting discussion, indeed!

Thanks for the discussion, Tiger

 

[dishm12/08]

Too many pages to read, so I'm sorry if this has been asked before. FI generally wears jeans, pants or shorts, with a polo or a nice graphic tee. I'm looking at mostly capris, jeans or khaki, with nice t-shirts, like those from the Disney Store. We'll be honeymooning in WDW in December and we're trying to make sure we have a little of everything just in case. Would what I just described be a violation of the dress code for signature restaurants? I don't think so, but I want to be sure. Considering that they haven't posted the hours for November yet and I'm scared to see how long it'll take them to post December, I'm not sure if when we make our ADRs if we'll have an acceptable amount of time to leave and come back to for our ADRs. Being that it's our first time we kind of want to wing it with the exception of our ADRs. If it helps our tenative signature ADRs are:

Narcoosee's
Flying Fish
Yachtsman
Jiko
California Grill
Garden Grill