The Official Riviera Owners & Info Thread

[Sandisw]

How can they adjust points for views when they sell FWs of said views? Anyone know? Is it a non-issue?

It you look at the multi site POS it lists what the points per night would be if there was no difference between days and seasons.

Not all resorts declare based on view which allows flexibility

With FW, they can’t sell more than 35% of the rooms in that category so that alone would give them flexibility to adjust across views.

Creating a new view would be difficult, and I am not 100% sure they can at this point other than what they did with BWV…points are the same for BW view and P/G room but it became its own booking category.

My guess is because there were so few? They would have the flexibility to change the classification of actual rooms because of the way the charts are created.

I don’t think we will ever see them change any of those resort view rooms to preferred view just because of fireworks…and that is because the bulk of the time the view is a roof or parking lot.

Now, some of those first floor PV rooms that are near the quiet pool and now blocked by shrubs? Maybe a few of those could be converted.

As long as they have 65% of all rooms in a specific category available for regular type of booking, then there is some wiggle room

 

[Tatebeck]

But this did not change the point values of those rooms, so it could not have violated the Unit restriction. Boardwalk and P/G are the same point values, they just have different labels. This is the same thing they did at OKW when they created the HH category. So, they could create e.g. a "Skyliner" view out of that wing of the Preferred rooms, but if they followed the BWV/OKW precedent, it would still have the same point values as Preferred. IMO, all that would accomplish is further fragmenting the inventory, making one thing much harder to book.

They can still change the point values of those rooms after creating a new category, as long as the totals in each unit are not increased as you mentioned.

So unless DVC had some terribly balanced declarations with only one type of view in a unit or something, they would be able to change the point chart and increase BWV, decrease P/G view and then change the standard view if needed if any points remain in order to keep the totals of the units the same.

They already did the murkier thing which was asked about in the post I was responding to, which is create a third booking category. Adjusting point charts has been done before, will probably be done again, and is 100% allowed with certain caveats like you mentioned before with unit totals, etc.

 

[Brian Noble]

hey can still change the point values of those rooms after creating a new category, as long as the totals in each unit are not increased as you mentioned.

Except that those rooms are all in units that only have "skyliner view" rooms. So there is no way to increase the points for them without increasing the points for the units in which they are held. Those units are all already declared.

 

[Tatebeck]

Except that those rooms are all in units that only have "skyliner view" rooms. So there is no way to increase the points for them without increasing the points for the units in which they are held. Those units are all already declared.

Then yes, in specific cases like that with any units with only one view type, those specific rooms are much harder, if not impossible, to change (other than changing the costs between the different seasons, that is still easy enough)

They could however still make all of those a separate booking category without changing the points at all (like BW View did) and then change the remaining other view categories in the units that have multiple view categories within them. Though that would be pretty complicated and they would have to really be motivated to do it.

 

[DebbieB]

I would be pretty pissed if that was my room and I booked preferred.

We had a high floor, it wasn’t bad. It was close to the elevator that goes down to Primo Piatto.

 

[arich35]

We had a high floor, it wasn’t bad. It was close to the elevator that goes down to Primo Piatto.

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I guess that isn't as bad as I would have thought but I still wouldn't considered that preferred

 

[DebbieB]

I guess that isn't as bad as I would have thought but I still wouldn't considered that preferred

What I would hate is a first floor room with people walking by.

 

[MarkNC2Disney]

What I would hate is a first floor room with people walking by.

I had a first floor BW view room at BWV and it was not awesome.

Many Riv preferred rooms have beautiful views. Some not so great. So it goes…

 

[J-Dog]

I guess I'm late to the conversation, but I greatly prefer PV over SV/RV. IMO, the only advantage of SV is the point savings, which, granted, is a top prioroity for many people. Again, IMO, the fireworks view is not worth considering, since it's a distant/not great view and obviously the fireworks only happen for a small fraction of the total time of that view. The rest of the time you're looking at a parking lot.

I do agree that the "less preferred" Preferred Views would be irriatating to get stuck with, but on the other hand, RIV is a DVC resort, in which many/most of us stay at DVC resorts many, many times, so a poor view one time doesn't seem like the end of the world. Now, if this was a once-in-a-lifetime trip to WDW, and you got a Skyliner view with PV, it might suck - but those people are cash or renters, so they're not our focus group anyway.

Thirdly, I wouldn't be opposed to a third view category, which I don't see why they couldn't even the points out by incorporating some original PV and some original SV, but I'm not sure I understsand how that works with rooms already being declared, as @Brian Noble mentioned.

 

[Sandisw]

I guess that isn't as bad as I would have thought but I still wouldn't considered that preferred

This is why opinions of views are so subjective. I loved having that view when we did a PV room.

 

[muppets3d]

I Book my resort view room and consider the preferred view a waste of points at Riviera. Each to their own. I love staying on the west wing side of the resort, personally. But I know a lot of folks prefer the east wing for easier access to skyliner and better view of EPCOT.

I like west wing because it's all dead-ends so not as much traffic in the hallways. I'm not as worried about the views off my balcony.

We've all got our favorite room locations! Each to their own.

 

[MarkNC2Disney]

I Book my resort view room and consider the preferred view a waste of points at Riviera. Each to their own. I love staying on the west wing side of the resort, personally. But I know a lot of folks prefer the east wing for easier access to skyliner and better view of EPCOT.

I like west wing because it's all dead-ends so not as much traffic in the hallways. I'm not as worried about the views off my balcony.

We've all got our favorite room locations! Each to their own.

You have your wings flipped. But point taken!

 

[muppets3d]

You have your wings flipped. But point taken!

YES I DO sorry. I prefer the east wing!