Why hasnt disney Built more Monorail Hotels?

[Zip-a-dee-dude-da]

Is it just me or does disney have all kinds of room along the Epcot monorail line to build a Hotel or three. They wouldnt even have to change the monorail just build around the existing structur. This has seemed like a no brainer for years. Anyone have any insight.

I for one would love to stay at Disneys Hotel Holywood or Disneys Hotel New York right along the Epcot Monorail line!!!

 

[Glendamax]

Interesting that you posed this question, because I was wondering the same thing when I was there last week. For me, it was nothing worse than looking fwrd to being back in your room, and knowing it would be a good half an hour before getting there. I think Disney needs to take a hint from Universal also, and add more resorts as close to/in the parks as possible. Hopefully if they do it though, a week there won't cost 3 weeks salary.

 

[minnie61650]

Is it just me or does disney have all kinds of room along the Epcot monorail line to build a Hotel or three. They wouldnt even have to change the monorail just build around the existing structur. This has seemed like a no brainer for years. Anyone have any insight.

I for one would love to stay at Disneys Hotel Holywood or Disneys Hotel New York right along the Epcot Monorail line!!!

Wilderness Lodge was supposed to be monorail hotel when it was first being built, but alas halfway through the building of the lodge they scrapped idea. My guess is they felt that the monorail system of present is near compacity.
Anyone eles have any more information?
Have fun at Disney!
Linda
AKA All Star Goddess

 

[ducklite]

1. Because monorail line is EXTREMELY expensive to run.
2. Because the monorail is at capacity.
3. Because most of the land around the MK hotel loop can not be built on for environmental/engineering reasons.

I think that WDW offers pleny of hotels that are close to parks. They are all deluxes because being that close to a park is a perk of staying deluxe.

Anne

 

[jarestel]

It probably comes down to $$$. If they could expand the monorail I'm sure they would love to, especially given the rising costs of bus fuel these days. Of course, adding more stops to the monorail loop would make an already lengthy trip around the MK loop even longer. If a monorail took 30 minutes or more to get people to and from their destinations, the bloom would probably fall off the monorail rose pretty quickly.

 

[imatoad]

I agree, too many stops on the monorail line would create a longer travel time, somewhat negating the idea of convenience.

 

[mark smith]

Are Monorails more expensive to operate(not counting initial invesment),than buses?
I think a resort on the EPCOT to TTC line would not overburden capacity, and not slow down time to MK, as people would still have to make a transfer. One add'l stop between EPCOT and TTC would be OK w/ me.
I certainly can't comment on environmental viability of a resort in this area, but as a developer let me assure you where theres a will theres a way(especially w/ Disney Money).
Count me in for a new Deluxe resort-maybe a venetian style w/ canals connectinf to the 7 seas lagoon, but alas, I fear they will not spend the money to do so.
Oh yeah, how about an ultra deluxe resort closer yet to MK(immediate walk access in and a spur to Contemporary and beyond?!

 

[spiceycat]

I have been asking this question for years - so far no comment.

So I am guessing - remember that I am NOT an engineer.

but it may be the way this monrail was designed. It was straight access to Epcot. won't it require taking part this monrail and adding another station.

this would probably be much more expensive than you know. It might not even be possible.

US/IOA got their idea from Disney.

the Epcot resorts are between Epcot and Studios. Disney decided that was a better area for the resorts.

besides I really think Disney still wants a 5 star hotel. they got told that the monrail hotels were to easy for outsiders to get in - so the AKL - they still don't have a 5 star.

of course the person doing the rating is Orlando is hard. there is no 5 star hotel in Orlando. Miami has a ton of them. Now if AAA would just let the Miami person do the rating for Orlando - then I really think Disney would get their 5 star - so would US - so would Marriott with the Ritz-carlton or their Marriott JW.

this person is so prejudice that they gave the Polyn, WL, and AKL only 3 stars. the GF, BC, BW got 4 stars. So this person only likes lighter hotels.

 

[Zip-a-dee-dude-da]

1. Because monorail line is EXTREMELY expensive to run.
2. Because the monorail is at capacity.
3. Because most of the land around the MK hotel loop can not be built on for environmental/engineering reasons.

I think that WDW offers pleny of hotels that are close to parks. They are all deluxes because being that close to a park is a perk of staying deluxe.

Anne

Read the ORIGINAL POST. I said the EPCOT MONORAIL LINE. It would be no more expensive all youd have to build is a station along the currently built monorail. I highly doubt the Epcot line is at capacity if anything it is underused.

 

[Jackie H.]

This is a great idea! In all the discussions on these boards (especially the rumors board) I don't recall this ever having been debated.

Yes, many of the folks responded didn't really read your post, Zip-a-dee But you clearly said along the EPCOT monorail.

You seem to be right that the only cost involved would be in building the resort, I can't see what would cost anything on the monorail side of it.....the monorails already go that way, it would just be a matter of stopping.

I wonder if it has something to do with the water table? Maybe these sections have been designated a wet-lands and WDW can't build anthing there. That has happened where the old Disney Institue treehouses are. There are some threads about this

Treehouse Villas

 

[jarestel]

Read the ORIGINAL POST. I said the EPCOT MONORAIL LINE.

Whoops, right you are Zippy!

There is a lot of land along the Epcot monorail line, so I guess it's not unreasonable to assume it could be done at some point. I've no clue what the engineering details might be so I won't speculate on that, but it hasn't been done yet, so maybe that says something about the feasability, financial or otherwise. It's an interesting idea, though.

 

[spiceycat]

okay call me crazy.

but at each monrail station where the monrail stops. there is a control panel (or I got told it was a control panel).

to put one on Epcot wouldn't it require the closing of the Epcot monrail???

don't laugh - I say I wasn't an engineer.

 

[ducklite]

Read the ORIGINAL POST. I said the EPCOT MONORAIL LINE. It would be no more expensive all youd have to build is a station along the currently built monorail. I highly doubt the Epcot line is at capacity if anything it is underused.

Oops--you are right. Well, the answer is still the same, it's simply too expensive. And a lot of the land between Epcot and the TTC has been dedicated as open space, in other words no future development will take place on it.

Anne

 

[grimley1968]

I really hope this doesn't happen. Just look at how long it takes now to stop at the three hotels on the MK resort monorail loop. It takes what seems like forever to get around it. I once waited 20 minutes inside the CR, waiting for a stuck train ahead of us. The one part of the monorail system that seems to move well without too many delays is that TTC-EPCOT line. Let's please not clutter it up and slow it down with stops along the way.

 

[joliesmom]

I actually asked an employee that question in Jan and the CM stated that it would cost approx $125 million for it to be built (or as he said he could give me $125 million reasons why it wouldn't be built). Fact or fiction I don't know, this is just what a CM stated.

 

[Bracho]

I remember hearing or reading the same thing Anne just posted... alot of the Epcot monorail has been dedicated as a no development area and I'm cool with that.

It is so expensive to build and isn't as "unique" as it was 10-15 years ago. There are so many more cost effective ways of transporting large groups of people around.. lite rail, more buses... and who knows what else that I am willing to bet the monorail, as wonderful and fun as it is, has had it's day and what is there is all there will ever be...

It's a shame really, I love riding the monorail and it would be cool to have everything connected and a few more resorts on the system as well but that just isn't going to happen...

 

[Disneyjosh229]

A few months ago, I read a post where someone had mentioned that the mono is a non revenue making object, that costs way too much $$$ to operate. As it is, I cant beleve Disney still runs the TTC-Epcot line.

 

[bicker]

That's a good point. I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see the Epcot monorail decommissioned at some point, as havnig served its purpose, probably in line with some new light rail option, like the system that operates between the terminals at big airports like DFW. Just guessing here though.

 

[Disneyjosh229]

That's a good point. I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see the Epcot monorail decommissioned at some point, as havnig served its purpose, probably in line with some new light rail option, like the system that operates between the terminals at big airports like DFW. Just guessing here though.

I allways thought it would be cool (and probibly much cheaper) to run the same type of system that the ride "Tommarowland Transportation Authority" uses. Obviously there would have to be some improvements to make it more practical, but it could be done.

 

[bicker]

And it would be cost-rational.