Why does DCL have us congregate inside the theater instead of outside by the lifeboats?

[C6PT7]

There are others that say they petitioned the authorities that bright yellow was just as visible as orange!
And with a 100 year lease on a Bahamian island and secured number of docking's in Nassau, I bet the Bahamian authorities just said what ever you like! lol!

But thank you for checking my numbers over!

 

[perditax]

Hmm, one of the Disney podcasts, I think the one with Len Testa, did a "history of the DCL" two part episode and they said they actually ran ocean tests for visbility with the alternate color. I could swear they said "coast guard" but maybe they meant the Bahamanian CG.

 

[Dug720]

Hmm, one of the Disney podcasts, I think the one with Len Testa, did a "history of the DCL" two part episode and they said they actually ran ocean tests for viability with the alternate color. I could swear they said "coast guard" but maybe they meant the Bahamanian CG.

The imagineer who talks about them on the Destination America channel clearly says "Coast Guard".

 

[C6PT7]

And you believe what a Imagineer said in a corporate video?
And from @Tonka's Skipper 's post, the only duty is to make sure the vessel is safe to go to sea.
Again from what I've read, the authorities determine what they deem is safe, sea worthy.
You have to remember that although Disney is an American company, Disney Cruise Line is not!
They are based in the UK. Their ships built in Europe. The ships registered in the Bahamas.
So there are many other regulations and authorities than just ours they have to abide by! We do not own the oceans!

 

[C6PT7]

They have to meet INTERNATIONAL standards. The USCG isn't the worlds authority of what is allowed!

Otherwise if they didn't meet INTERNATIONAL standards, the ships would not have been able to sail from europe to the US, and even with a special dispensation to leave, why would they be allowed back to cruise in europe?

We have a very arrogant attitude that WE make the rules, and everyone else has to follow. Not so.

 

[Amunet]

Goodness, if everyone is so concerned about sinking ships, don't go on a cruise

For me it was The Poseidon Adventure, in fact, was the thing that jolted me into reality about death as a child Though, I was quite fascinated with the Titanic as well.

Perhaps everyone can agree to go to muster stations as assigned, then, if something happened that rendered that you couldn't (fire in theater, terrorist attacks, alien abductions, etc.), then go ahead and think further into the situation and gauge if going to the fire engulfed theater is a safe bet or not.
But be sure to stop by shutters to pick up your photo package before you leave.

 

[C6PT7]

Amunet,

That comment about stopping at shutters for photo's was just the comment this thread needed for it be lightened!
Thankyou!

 

[Eeyorebabies]

I don't know, alien abductions could be fun too

 

[jlemieu1]

Does anyone have a photo of a fully packed lifeboat? The CMs are not excited when they have to do a full lifeboat drill. Very close quarters but at least you'll be safe,

 

[artnerds]

if you don't go to your station, some crew member will probably be sent to look for you, which places them at risk also.

Even with the egregious behavior of the Concordia's captain, all but 32 people made it off that ship. And a few of those were like the musician who went back for his violin. and they list only 64 injuries.

Fortunately, Disney tends to research and plan everything down to every detail, so their evacuation plans probably include procedures to deal with the fact that there are apparently complete blithering numbskulls (CBNs) who think they know better and will do whatever they like instead of following the ship's evacuation instructions.

Unfortunately, as you said, it probably produces some element of risk to the crew, but that is the reality of working on a passenger ship. We can only hope that there will be a minimum of such CBNs should an emergency ever arise on one of Disney's ships.

 

[Dug720]

Does anyone have a photo of a fully packed lifeboat? The CMs are not excited when they have to do a full lifeboat drill. Very close quarters but at least you'll be safe,

That is the key right there. The life boats are not meant to be long-term but to enable you to either get to the closest land or get to the nearest rescue ship. It's not like the cruise would continue on the life boats.

 

[king kamehameha]

During the safety drill they used to have us congregate outside by our designated boats which makes sense to me in case of an emergency. But now they have us meeting up inside the theater? This makes no sense to me. If we are in some kind of emergency where we have to evacuate the ship, I dont want to be heading inside the theater. It feels more like I would be heading to my doom being stuck in there. Reminds me of the steerage scenes in the Titanic with water rushing in. I would rather head straight out on deck by the lifeboats. In fact, on the last cruise, a Dad sitting next to us in the theater turned to us and said that if there is a real emergency he is not bringing his family into the theater. He is going straight out to the deck. I tend to agree.

We felt the same way, and as an added bonus, we had "Entertainers" as our muster leaders who did not take it serious at all. We decided not to go to the theater if there was an actual emergency and not let our safety be put in the hands of these young people who didn't really seem to care. In an actual emergency it would be total chaos. Human nature would render muster stations useless anyways on any cruise line...... Just sayin.

 

[FlagTechMgr]

There are others that say they petitioned the authorities that bright yellow was just as visible as orange!
And with a 100 year lease on a Bahamian island and secured number of docking's in Nassau, I bet the Bahamian authorities just said what ever you like! lol!

But thank you for checking my numbers over!

It's not quite as simple as "sure, whatever you like", Disney would have to demonstrate an "equivalent level of safety" to the authorities but Disney is probably going to get more leeway because its a nice brand to have associated with your flag. Bahamas does give everyone a good deal on port fees if they are registered with the Bahamas, that is how they have gotten such a large share of the cruise ship market.

The Bahamas as the flag state is the one who first and foremost has to accept the different color. The Bahamas would be completely within their right to say no, you must use international orange on your lifeboats. Disney however has a specific reason for wanting the color yellow because it is a part of their brand, so it is possible that saying no would have enticed them to register their ships in another country.

Because the yellow is such a departure from the norm it would have been in Disney's best interest to also get the US Coast Guard on board with it to avoid any problems when they pull in to US ports so to say it was "approved by the USCG" is probably not an altogether false statement. If you didn't get them on board beforehand, the Coast Guard could "detain" the vessel and force them to repaint all the lifeboats orange before allowing them to sail.

 

[FlagTechMgr]

We felt the same way, and as an added bonus, we had "Entertainers" as our muster leaders who did not take it serious at all. We decided not to go to the theater if there was an actual emergency and not let our safety be put in the hands of these young people who didn't really seem to care. In an actual emergency it would be total chaos. Human nature would render muster stations useless anyways on any cruise line...... Just sayin.

Kindly post all of your future cruise plans here so i know which ones to avoid. You sir are far more of a danger in an emergency than those "entertainers".

 

[wcw57]

This thread too a left turn shortly after the OP and is now veering into just plain ummmmmm...what word should I choose so as not to get an infraction (the horror!).....not cogent.

There. I said it and I'm glad.

 

[Flossbolna]

On my Panama Canal cruise Captain Fabian did a talk about the building of the Dream and the Fantasy (he was one of the people in the Disney team that was based in Germany during that time). He went into a bit of detail about the building of the lifeboats and also the testing of the emergency procedures. He mentioned that they first have computer simulations about how people are getting out to the lifeboats, but then actually did a mock up evacuation test. They invited a local school for that, the kids with their families, so that they would have the right crowd of people with lots of kids in it and then built the walkways as they were supposed to be on the ship. And then timed how long it would take to get everyone from all the muster stations onto the lifeboats.

 

[KristiMc]

We felt the same way, and as an added bonus, we had "Entertainers" as our muster leaders who did not take it serious at all. We decided not to go to the theater if there was an actual emergency and not let our safety be put in the hands of these young people who didn't really seem to care. In an actual emergency it would be total chaos. Human nature would render muster stations useless anyways on any cruise line...... Just sayin.

Wow - and you would be putting your family, yourself and others in danger by not following the rules. Hope I never cruise with you.

 

[KLB9]

I do not get "I just watched Titanic the week before my cruise! Will I be safe" posts though. Sorry. Suck it up and grow up. It was a movie.

And I am glad the concierge pax do not get preferential assignments.

It was an actual ship that sunk

 

[Maggie'sMom]

It was an actual ship that sunk

Over 100 years ago. There have been just a few advancements in communications, navigation, and technology since then. And since none of us were there, most people are relying on a Hollywood movie as their frame of reference. We all know how well Hollywood sticks to facts in their movies.

 

[Maggie'sMom]

We felt the same way, and as an added bonus, we had "Entertainers" as our muster leaders who did not take it serious at all. We decided not to go to the theater if there was an actual emergency and not let our safety be put in the hands of these young people who didn't really seem to care. In an actual emergency it would be total chaos. Human nature would render muster stations useless anyways on any cruise line...... Just sayin.

It's kind of like the Southwest flight attendants that have a humorous spiel as they are going through the safety information. It's not that they don't take safety seriously. It's that they want to get people to listen to the instructions. A lot of people would tune out the basic information because they view it as "too boring", so if the CMs can add a bit of humor and levity to the info, they will get more people listening.

In this case, it seems you are the one who is not taking this seriously. If you disregard the procedures and do not report to your muster station in the event of an emergency, you are putting yourself, your family, fellow cruisers, and the crew in greater danger.