Why does DCL allow smoking?

[martinm]

I knew when I booked a verandha room that people were allowed to smoke on the verandhas, but it just so happened that we had heavey smokers right next to us, they even had more family on an inside room and they would come over to their verandha and smoke there as well, so we had to rooms of smokers all on the same balcony! When we opened our door, we got their smoke in our room, so frustrating.

Why does DCL allow smoking on the verandhas? Is it a marketing ploy knowing that most if not all smokers will pay the extra money for a balcony? They get people that like balconies plus all the smokers booking balcony rooms. ugh!

I was on my balcony last week for hours and hours. I never once smelled smoke.
I only smelled smoke outside one stateroom all week.

 

[Moxin]

I wonder if/when DCL will go smokefree entirely. I remember all of the fuss in Cali when all bars/restaurant smoking was banned. Owners thought they'd lose business...turns out, business increased exponentially. Who'd have thought so many people were actually staying away from the smoke...

 

[DCL Repeaters]

I can't tell you how many times I've said that pretty soon, someone will want to hire the "Stink Police"....there are so many offensive and sickening odors.

Anyway, to answer your question about the E-Cigs....they don't have any odor at all. None. And no harmful fumes. The only thing I've found is that they aren't the best substitute for the real thing, but they will work in a pinch.
Note: Airlines do not allow use of the E-Cigs onboard. Why...I'm not sure, but I imagine that too many people would think they were real and cause an uproar. Rule breaker that I am, if I feel I absolutely need it, I'll go in the bathroom on a plane. There is NO smoke, so it doesn't smell and it doesn't set off the alarms.

My dh uses an e-cig and the flavored 'juices' do emit a pleasant odor but it's very light. Some of the 'juices' in a e-cig contain nicotine so I'm very sure that's the reason they are not allowed inside anywhere.

 

[AquaDame]

LOL, sorry but this couldn't have been posted at a more appropriate time. Today of all days, we did see a boy spraying himself with one of those Axe sprays...and you could tell he already had 1/2 the bottle on. So yes....sometimes people do reapply LOL. I despise those Axe sprays.

He's definitely not a chain smoker.....and he goes out of his way to walk to smoking areas when we are out so I have no doubt he will do the same on the ship if our neighboring veranda has a problem with the smell (or again, he may just use the vapor cigs while on the veranda).

It's not that he enjoys smoking....he's addicted. He would never push that addiction on someone else, sorry your neighbors weren't made aware of your allergy in some way. They may have moved or curbed their need to smoke so much if they'd been told by a CM or something?

Oh man, the axe stuff sounds nasty! Most likely your neighbors won't say a thing and just go inside, luckily or sadly I'm not sure since he sounds very nice! I didn't mean to make it sound like me personally - we haven't braved a verandah yet, but have our first one booked for next October since it is a special cruise. I'm a little nervous but don't intend to let it ruin my vacation, come what may!

I was on my balcony last week for hours and hours. I never once smelled smoke.
I only smelled smoke outside one stateroom all week.

Hopefully this is what happens for us too! I know its not everyone - its just a risk.

I wonder if/when DCL will go smokefree entirely. I remember all of the fuss in Cali when all bars/restaurant smoking was banned. Owners thought they'd lose business...turns out, business increased exponentially. Who'd have thought so many people were actually staying away from the smoke...

They may never. Cruises are loooong, and as someone said smoking is often an addiction. I know people who simply can't go even half a day without one! I'm definitely much more likely to go out now - bars were a huge no no until the ban passed here in PDX. You could see the ceiling all covered with smoke residue and it took months to clear the air in them but it is so refreshing not to have to fret about who and who doesn't allow it!

 

[Deb in IA]

This has been an issue for quite a while.

I really wish Disney would re-assess this policy.

I think a reasonable compromise would be designating a section of verandah rooms to be "smoking verandahs", and grouping them together on one deck, on one side (say Deck 8, starboard), and all the others should be non-smoking.

The smokers who don't want to book that block can still use Deck 4 starboard to smoke.

 

[PrincessTrisha]

This has been an issue for quite a while.

I really wish Disney would re-assess this policy.

I think a reasonable compromise would be designating a section of verandah rooms to be "smoking verandahs", and grouping them together on one deck, on one side (say Deck 8, starboard), and all the others should be non-smoking.

The smokers who don't want to book that block can still use Deck 4 starboard to smoke.

There are no HA cabins on Deck 8 Starboard.

Again I have to say, I don't like the idea of making one side or floor of the ship smoking/non smoking. HA cabins are hard enough to come by, (especially balconies or concierge), I really don't want to see those choices become less due to smoking/non smoking.

 

[Meggysmum]

I have never sailed with DCL but I have used other cruise lines that have the same policy.

We always have a balcony cabin and in 5 cruises we have only come across a problem twice with smoking. One was a cigar smoker who lit up on the balcony directly under ours, on that particular cruiseline cigars were only to be smoked in the cigar lounge so I had no hesitation in complaining to Guest Services and I never saw him do it again. The other was a family of smokers who seemed to have the same day pattern as us and always seemed to be out there smoking. On port days the smoke really lingers and on sea days it still seems to blow inwards towards the ship. Although I am asthmatic and found it irritating I know that they were within their rights to smoke and wouldn't have dreamt of saying anything.

It is about time that the cruiselines worked out that only about 1 in 4 adults smoke (barring Europe which has a higher figure) so 25% of the adult passengers are able to indulge their habit whilst the other 75% may have to be affected by it as it is completely potluck if they will have troublesome smoke or not.

I don't believe in banning smoking but I think it is about time they started to think of a way that non-smokers could be guaranteed a smoke-free balcony to enjoy at their leisure.

 

[TheRatPack]

Just a small interesting tidbit.....Walt Disney smoked and from what I've read he liked unfiltered cigs and was often described as a 'chain-smoker'. Wonder how many of the staff smoke on DCL ships?

 

[justmestace]

There are no HA cabins on Deck 8 Starboard.

Again I have to say, I don't like the idea of making one side or floor of the ship smoking/non smoking. HA cabins are hard enough to come by, (especially balconies or concierge), I really don't want to see those choices become less due to smoking/non smoking.

There are on the Magic and Wonder, far aft. Both of them are one bedroom concierge suites.

One of the reasons I don't like the Fantasy and Dream, they lumped all the concierge suites on a top deck (more likely to suffer from motion sickness) and less choices of where you might want to be onboard.....and no more two bedroom family suites.

 

[justmestace]

Just a small interesting tidbit.....Walt Disney smoked and from what I've read he liked unfiltered cigs and was often described as a 'chain-smoker'. Wonder how many of the staff smoke on DCL ships?

Not a scientific study, but having spent quite a bit of time in ports with a lot of crew members from at least a couple of the ships (we like to grab a taxi and ask the driver to take us away from the crowds, and we usually end up where the crew are) we've seen nearly all of them smoking. Part of it may have to do with the fact that they're mostly from different countries than the U.S. where smoking is more prevalent.

One of the few times I was ever disturbed by noise and/or smoke was when I had a balcony above what was obviously a crew member's stateroom, and they were having a party on the balcony late at night.
I didn't say anything to them, nor did I call anyone, I figured they deserved a little fun.

 

[Deb in IA]

I don't believe in banning smoking but I think it is about time they started to think of a way that non-smokers could be guaranteed a smoke-free balcony to enjoy at their leisure.

I agree.

Set aside a block of "smoking allowed" rooms, including HA, and leave the rest as smoke-free.

Just a small interesting tidbit.....Walt Disney smoked and from what I've read he liked unfiltered cigs and was often described as a 'chain-smoker'. Wonder how many of the staff smoke on DCL ships?

Walt also died of lung cancer.
After they removed his left lung.

 

[TheRatPack]

I agree.

Set aside a block of "smoking allowed" rooms, including HA, and leave the rest as smoke-free.
Walt also died of lung cancer.
After they removed his left lung.

He actually died of a heart attack I believe? After his surgery for lung cancer? So I guess in a way he did die as a side effect of smoking, but other issues were present. Obesity causes more health issues that result in death, so maybe they shouldn't let obese people take cruises and eat off the buffet but rent them staterooms that only come with fruit and veggie plates.

I tell my husband all the time that smoking is unhealthy, heck.....he's a grown man, he knows it's unhealthy and potentially deadly. But I also realize that we're all going to die from something and all of us probably have a bad habit or two that we could do without. Granted some addictions (soda, food...etc) don't directly effect those around us like smoking but until smoking is outlawed, I think what DCL has in place is what it is.

I don't smoke, my kids don't smoke....so we would NOT spend our vacation in a smoking room. My husband doesn't smoke in our house, our car or in the rooms on vacation and for the most part I think smokers follow the rules. I'm sure if you smell smoke on your veranda and mention it to your attendant, they can either move you or leave a note for the other guest. If it continues, escalate the issue.

 

[qits]

The cigaretts today are not like were years ago they seem to me much stronger. Or it could be i'm not hanging in the bars and clubs anymore so the smell bothers me more. I would be upset if i paid money for a balcony and had to smell that stuff.

 

[IBelieveInTheMagic]

I know there have been lots of items discussed in this thread, but I wanted to mention something in case it helps. It's been our/my experience on 4 different sailings (2 Dream, 1 Fantasy, and 1 Wonder) that we have not ONE time smelled smoke, anywhere on the ship, including our verandah. I know it's luck of the draw, however I've been very pleased so far.

Heather

 

[wombat_5606]

Sadly, it wont matter to some people whether they allow smoking on the cruise ships or not.

I have been on a Celebrity cruise, where smoking is not allowed, and our verandah neighbors smoked on their balcony. When I reminded the neighbor that smoking wasn't allowed on their balcony, they looked over the partition to check if I was on my balcony or in my stateroom before they smoked. Okay, they weren't subjecting me to their smoke, but i didnt particularly like being spied on either.

At the resorts and parks, I have seen many people smoking in non-smoking areas. One tourist even stood in the line for the bus with his cigarette. One guy woke me out of a sound sleep smoking outside my door at 2am.

So, unfortunately for us non-smokers, we are put in the position where our options are to get over it, to stew about it, to confront the smoker or tattle to someone in authority. What a way to spend a relaxing vacation.

I just wish people would follow the rules. Read the posts on wearing shorts in the MDR for another hot button issue.

If you don't like the rules, you have the right to work on getting them changed, but in the meantime, follow them. I've spent my money and read all of the rules which I will follow whether I agree with them or not, and I expect my fellow travelers to do the same. If those rules are so disagreeable, choose another travel provider and let those that enjoy these rules, have their vacation.

 

[TheLanes]

He actually died of a heart attack I believe? After his surgery for lung cancer? So I guess in a way he did die as a side effect of smoking, but other issues were present. Obesity causes more health issues that result in death, so maybe they shouldn't let obese people take cruises and eat off the buffet but rent them staterooms that only come with fruit and veggie plates.

I tell my husband all the time that smoking is unhealthy, heck.....he's a grown man, he knows it's unhealthy and potentially deadly. But I also realize that we're all going to die from something and all of us probably have a bad habit or two that we could do without. Granted some addictions (soda, food...etc) don't directly effect those around us like smoking but until smoking is outlawed, I think what DCL has in place is what it is.

I don't smoke, my kids don't smoke....so we would NOT spend our vacation in a smoking room. My husband doesn't smoke in our house, our car or in the rooms on vacation and for the most part I think smokers follow the rules. I'm sure if you smell smoke on your veranda and mention it to your attendant, they can either move you or leave a note for the other guest. If it continues, escalate the issue.

Besides increasing the overall costs of healthcare, how do obese people directly affect others? Your point doesn't make much sense