Who else has banned their child from watching...........

[Twinkles6892]

Twinkles - I would say that she and I are probably about even with respect to relative wisdom. But in terms of harshness ...



So was that. So, tit for tat. If I can be expected to take the condescension - so can she.

She said her's differently. Even if it was just some nice smilies afterwards. Yours was mean and harsh. This isn't the only thread I've seen you on tonight either, maybe you're having a bad night or something

 

[MrsKreamer]

I am not insulted by Dana's comments. It is very true that my son is the most wonderful accident I could have ever been blessed with. I am so blessed by him that I have to stay home with him. I don't like to share the most wonderful part of my life with someone who makes a few more bucks then min wage. I am very happy in my life. Mistakes in all. Dana likes to talk big. That is all she is....talk. So an immature 24 y/o insulting me...I really couldn't care less.
Thanks for the support ladies!

ETA there is something special about owning up to your responsibilities and taking care for another human being. I could have aborted and not married the love of my life and would have been finished with school by now. I just know what's important in life.

 

[Cantw8]

Wow, Dana...that's quite an ego you have on you. I hope it serves you well.

 

[Pooh Girl 71]

I don't ban MTV in my house. I like to watch it. DD is almost 14 and she watches with me. It's been an invaluable teaching lesson. It has opened up MANY conversations about how to respect oneself, how to have others respect you, how not behave in public and embarrass your mama,etc.

Granted these are things we have been talking about since she was about 4 but it's always good to get a refresher on the subject

 

[goofygirl]

darlin' - the chick you quoted is 22!

I always forget - if you screw up and get pregnant, you are immediately infused with and credited with great wisdom on the DIS board. There's just something special about having that baby!

Of course, parenthood automatically makes you a better person, right? Parenthood is The Most Important Job In The World, doncha know.

Oh, and its amazing that it is NEVER a screw up , but its ALWAYS a "miracle from God!"

 

[goofygirl]

I am not insulted by Dana's comments. It is very true that my son is the most wonderful accident I could have ever been blessed with. I am so blessed by him that I have to stay home with him. I don't like to share the most wonderful part of my life with someone who makes a few more bucks then min wage. I am very happy in my life. Mistakes in all. Dana likes to talk big. That is all she is....talk. So an immature 24 y/o insulting me...I really couldn't care less.
Thanks for the support ladies!

ETA there is something special about owning up to your responsibilities and taking care for another human being. I could have aborted and not married the love of my life and would have been finished with school by now. I just know what's important in life.

I take it that you only married the "love of your life" because you got pregnant? Sorry, but I think that's sad. I'd much rather marry someone purely for love and companionship- not because I "have to". I also think its sad when someone gives up school because they "have to."

 

[MrsKreamer]

I was being sarcastic. I have never done anything in my life because I had to. FWIW we were already engaged, and the wedding was planned. Geez for such "open-minded" individuals you sure do assume a lot.

I don't feel the need to defend my choices in life, just b/c people are unhappy in theirs.

 

[Pooh Girl 71]

ETA there is something special about owning up to your responsibilities and taking care for another human being. I could have aborted and not married the love of my life and would have been finished with school by now. I just know what's important in life.

Not trying to bash you in anyway but I have a question. Why did you have to quit school? Are you planning on going back? I ask b/c I see this a lot from people and I don't understand why some think you either have a baby OR you go to school. Why can't you do both? (the last is a really a rhetorical question). I put myself through community college, undergrad and a master's program with a child. I also wasn't married for most of it.

 

[Twinkles6892]

Getting back to MTV, Ahem!

Yes I've seen almost all of the shows

 

[niks81]

While I agree that Dana could have worded her comment differently I do see recurring themes with her posts concerning other posters feelings. I am also young and see the same thing all the way across the boards here--if you are a parent on here--be it at 15 or at 45--the tone that is spoken to young, childless individuals like Dana and myself IS condescending. It's annoying...it's as if we are naturally ignorant.

On this thread especially, I think a twentysomethings opinion would be moreso valueble than even a parent's. It wasn't such a long time ago that we were those teenagers you all are ranting and raving about. I had a mom that wound me a little bit too tight....the result? I moved out at 18, did my own thing. Got married at 21. So yes, Dana's comment---definitely blunt in nature--but her point is similar to mine. Just because someone doesn't have kids doesn't mean that they have less to offer advice wise. Like I said, it wasn't long ago that we were those teens and we can probably offer advice from the kid's standpoint, to enlighten you. Often times when I see the condescending tone that's dealt out on here to the twentysomethings

"Speak AFTER you have kids, then you can all you want. "

I just ignore it. But to see Dana be condescending back and it be unacceptable is interesting. Yes, she could have worded it differently, perhaps thrown in a few smilies, but the point is, it doesn't feel good to have someone talk down to you either does it?

 

[MrsKreamer]

I didn't have to quit school, I chose to take a break. My husband was closer to his degree than I was. So after he finishes in December I go back. I totally agree that you can do both, but time wise it just wasn't for me right now. I am choosing to wait until I am comfortable with putting my son in daycare(basically we he can talk). Besides when I was in school I was sure what I wanted to do in life, now I do. It is not just to stay home and be broke, barefoot and pregnant(as much as Dana would love to paint that picture ). I am going to get my degree and then get certified to be a math/science teacher. That way when my children(including other kids we plan to have in the future) go to school we will have the same schedule.

I was trying to be sarcastic in my post, but I guess it didn't come across that way. Oh well

 

[MrsKreamer]

While I agree that Dana could have worded her comment differently I do see recurring themes with her posts concerning other posters feelings. I am also young and see the same thing all the way across the boards here--if you are a parent on here--be it at 15 or at 45--the tone that is spoken to young, childless individuals like Dana and myself IS condescending. It's annoying...it's as if we are naturally ignorant.

On this thread especially, I think a twentysomethings opinion would be moreso valueble than even a parent's. It wasn't such a long time ago that we were those teenagers you all are ranting and raving about. I had a mom that wound me a little bit too tight....the result? I moved out at 18, did my own thing. Got married at 21. So yes, Dana's comment---definitely blunt in nature--but her point is similar to mine. Just because someone doesn't have kids doesn't mean that they have less to offer advice wise. Like I said, it wasn't long ago that we were those teens and we can probably offer advice from the kid's standpoint, to enlighten you. Often times when I see the condescending tone that's dealt out on here to the twentysomethings

"Speak AFTER you have kids, then you can all you want. "

I just ignore it. But to see Dana be condescending back and it be unacceptable is interesting. Yes, she could have worded it differently, perhaps thrown in a few smilies, but the point is, it doesn't feel good to have someone talk down to you either does it?

Last post off topic, I promise

I was intending for my post to be condesending, just sarcastic with a little truth behind. You really do see things differently after you have kids. It is a life-changing event.

Now back to the original thread.

 

[Megster]

can I just point out that this thread started about a show that showcases completely rediculous girls (and a boy) who get pretty much whatever they want because their parents have created monsters that scream cry and roll their eyes when they don't get what they want? I'm pretty sure thats a fact that we can all agree on!

 

[niks81]

You really do see things differently after you have kids. It is a life-changing event.

It's not that I don't agree with you on this. I do, and I'm not even a mother yet. But what I'm saying is that it is true on here that people talk in that certain manner to twentysomethings, or childless individuals as though our opinions and experience doesn't count--I see it all the time.

I think too, that one thing we could say is, we see things differently because we chose not to have kids yet. Our life experiences in social, romantic, educational and career areas of our lives are completely different than yours. That gives us an equally strong view in different areas and subjects on this board. Just because we're not mothers doesn't mean that our opinions should be discounted.

 

[Pooh Girl 71]

Thanks for answering my questions.

As for the original question which I didn't even answer. DD and I have watched the Sweet 16 series. Those kids are beyond spoiled. DD is as disgusted by it as I am. She even commented that most are having parties that seem like weddings (minus the partner). I just wonder what they are going to look forward to when they have all of these extravagent things at such an early age?

 

[IloveDMB]

While I agree that Dana could have worded her comment differently I do see recurring themes with her posts concerning other posters feelings. I am also young and see the same thing all the way across the boards here--if you are a parent on here--be it at 15 or at 45--the tone that is spoken to young, childless individuals like Dana and myself IS condescending. It's annoying...it's as if we are naturally ignorant.

Amen!!

I feel exactly as you do. I often feel like I'm being talked down to around here because I have not had a child yet. But I am only 5 years removed from being a teenager myself, so you'd think I'd be able to have some insight.

The condescending tones go get to be a little much at times, but I've learned to ignore them quite a bit.

As to the show, I hope they do another season of it. I love seeing the way the other half lives.

 

[peachgirl]

You really do see things differently after you have kids.

Differently, yes. Better or more informed? Nope.

Funny...most of the people I know raised their kids this way (including my own parents and my DH parents) and those kinds of things never happened.

Ummmm....it's not like the kids go home and tell mommy and daddy what they are doing.

For those of us who have experienced what she described, she's absolutely right.

Dana gave what she got.

 

[goofygirl]

I don't feel the need to defend my choices in life, just b/c people are unhappy in theirs.

Who is unhappy with their life choices? Certainly not me!!

And certainly not the other childless/childfree people here!

 

[EsmeraldaX]

Let's talk relative wisdom here for a minute. You're 22; you accidentally got pregnant at 20, quit school, and stay home now with an infant. I'm 24; no kids, degree, and I bank cash for my future kids. So granted that we're both young and probably both idiots at heart, who might be winning the wisdom sweepstakes these days? Is your opinion worth more than mine? Is mine worth more than yours? Are we equal?

Wow. Just...wow. That has to be the nastiest, most uncalled for thing I have ever read on the DIS.

So you're 24 and you make a lot more money (as you quite frequently mention on the boards) than most of us will ever make. So what?

Should all my friends who are teachers and social workers quit their jobs so they can be CEO millionaires before they have kids?? They seem pretty happy. Mrs.Kreamer seems pretty happy.

I almost did not respond but I have to say, that was just rude, uncalled for and arrogant. And I think when Mrs. Kreamer told you to wait until you have your own kids to comment, she simply meant, it might be different when it's YOUR child watching something meant for adults. Her post did not sound rude at all.

Going away from this thread before it gets shut down...

 

[Alicnwondrln]

yeah
this show is sooo dumb and teaches kids expect to much
i remember my 16th i had a party and got 16 presents it was great
but i would never expect a party for 200k and then car
did you notice how spoiled and selfish most of these girls were?
it was sickening