Who believes Corey Clark's claims?

[minniepumpernickel]

My evenings have been so busy lately, I missed the show last night! I hope that they discuss it today on another show. I really only have a problem with the fact that she is in a power position over these contestants, so it would be wrong to get personally involved with them. I have no problem with the age difference. If it's all true, anyway.

 

[wvrevy]

- I'm sorry, but if you people honestly think that a news program - post Dan Rather - is going to put documents on the air without verification, you're nuts. There is absolutely no way on Earth that those documents were faked, and they wouldn't have said they showed "calls to Abdul's number" if they didn't show just that.

- Yes, the guy is scummy for doing this, and yes, he's purely out for the money. That would also give him reason to lie. But it doesn't necessarily mean that he is lying.

- Remember, there doesn't have to be proof of a longstanding "relationship" between the two, just contact. Paula is a judge of a contest, and is in a position to influence the outcome of that contest. Having 2 and 3 hour long conversations with one of the contestants most definitely constitutes "contact".

- The phone records...the Sprint employee...the phone number he has...the message on his cell (if that wasn't Paula, it was certainly the best impression I've ever heard)...his friends and parents...the fact that Fox and Abdul went out of their way to shut him and Primetime up, rather than just laughing him off as a disgruntled loser who can't handle the fact that it's his own fault and nobody else's. If none of this is true, I'd say Clarke and his record company are in for a pretty hefty lawsuit....but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

I started watching the program last night thinking just like most of you...that Clark was just another scumbag out to make a buck off his 15 minutes of fame, and doing it in slimier fashion than most. But after watching....I hate to say it, but I think he's telling (at least mostly) the truth.

 

[chris1gill]

If the claims are valid or not, he is a worthless two-bit punk out to make a dollar, nothing more. He is trying to profit off of scandal rather than his own talent, of which he has none.

I totally agree with tiger95... lacks total credibility... very few words that came out of his mouth were truthful IMHO...

 

[princessmomma]

I believe him too.

The main reason is that I have NEVER heard Paula deny the claims. I have carefully listen to her responses and I have yet to hear her say this did NOT happen. The responses I have heard are "Corey is a known liar...he is doing this for PR... I will not dignify the claims with a response..."

Has anyone else ever heard her flatly deny the claims???

 

[Hillbeans]

- I'm sorry, but if you people honestly think that a news program - post Dan Rather - is going to put documents on the air without verification, you're nuts. There is absolutely no way on Earth that those documents were faked, and they wouldn't have said they showed "calls to Abdul's number" if they didn't show just that.

- Yes, the guy is scummy for doing this, and yes, he's purely out for the money. That would also give him reason to lie. But it doesn't necessarily mean that he is lying.

- Remember, there doesn't have to be proof of a longstanding "relationship" between the two, just contact. Paula is a judge of a contest, and is in a position to influence the outcome of that contest. Having 2 and 3 hour long conversations with one of the contestants most definitely constitutes "contact".

- The phone records...the Sprint employee...the phone number he has...the message on his cell (if that wasn't Paula, it was certainly the best impression I've ever heard)...his friends and parents...the fact that Fox and Abdul went out of their way to shut him and Primetime up, rather than just laughing him off as a disgruntled loser who can't handle the fact that it's his own fault and nobody else's. If none of this is true, I'd say Clarke and his record company are in for a pretty hefty lawsuit....but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

I started watching the program last night thinking just like most of you...that Clark was just another scumbag out to make a buck off his 15 minutes of fame, and doing it in slimier fashion than most. But after watching....I hate to say it, but I think he's telling (at least mostly) the truth.

I completely agree with all you said above. He even had prescription cough medicine that she gave him (with her name on it) to help soothe his throat. Talk about giving someone an unfair advantage over everyone else.

I could care less if this person is trying to get his one second of fame, but in a contest, when someone is given any kind of blatant preferential treatment over someone else, the contest is skewed, IMO.

 

[vettechick99]

wvrevy, well said!

Oh I do believe him. I think something did happen between them, that sounded like her voice on his voice mail. I don't think he did this "just to clear his mind". He is definately out for the money. His song he was singing was stupid and didn't sound good at all. Another no-talent trying too hard to make a name for himself.

ditto, Nancy! I think they had an affair but don't believe his details or motive. DH and I laughed out loud in bed when he said she seduced him. "She leaned over and kissed me!", "She was the one always making the first move","She broke my heart". Blah, blah, blah. DH said if it was him he would have been like, "Yeah I made a move on Paula and we had sex. I kissed her, we were in love." but obviously Corey Clark wants to totally blame the her. Don't forget people, he's young and impressionable and that's Paula Abdul!

He brings it up now only because he needs the exposure not because he wants to set the record straight. If he had been victimized (I use that term loosely), he would have said something the moment he got kicked off.

His parents and friends are no better....



Unfortunately they both broke the rules and because of this I think she should get the boot (even though I like her a lot, I think it's only right).

 

[swilphil]

I don't believe him. Paula may have helped him out some, but I don't believe they had a sexual relationship. He's just trying to get some cash.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

This is how I view Corey's "evidence" in this case. IMO, this was one of the worst excuses for "investigative journalism" I have ever seen.

1. The phone bills - yes, PTL should have verified this was her number... but how do we know these are actual phone bills? (I can sit her at work and with a little time make a replica phone bill) They never showed it long enough to verify. AND if they verified it, why didn't they say so on the show?

2. The phone she got him - their evidence for this was "a Sprint employee told PTL that Abdul and clark came into the store together" and then showed a picture of a Sprint building. Where is this Sprint person from? How do we know he/she's credible? How do we know that actually happened?!?! And if it did, I'm expecting this "Sprint employee" just got some quick cash.

3. The voice mail (apparently the most incriminating) - why was there no time stamp? If I were doing this piece and this voicemail was REALLY in regards to the affair, I would be certainly playing the part where it says "Message received today at 8:09 a.m." If they played that I would have considered it more. Who's to say this wasn't 2 years ago about his pending allegations? Don't you think Paula and AI's lawyers would be stopping anything like that immediately!?!? That voice mail proved NOTHING!!! If she would have said "Don't talk to the press about our relationship" then there ya go! But she DIDN'T!!!

There was not one piece of evidence that would ever hold up in court (not saying that it's going to court, but if it was a court case) and not one piece of evidence was anything more than spin and hearsay.... and I spent 4 years of my life making the spin and hearsay, so I can spot it a mile away.

I think Corey is absolutely ridiculous and PTL should be ashamed of even airring this show.

Did you even think it was her voice? I made sure I paid close attention to the voice, and it did not sound like Paula at all to me. The voice was deeper, and the vocabulary was more clear. Know what I mean. Paula has a unique dialect, I did not hear it in the voice that came over his phone.

I do not believe a word of it. If he had said HE made a move on Paula because of obvoius reasons, he was 22 and full of himself (oh boy, I remember how full of himself he was), and she resipricated, I would beleive THAT. But how he sat there, and made it sound like she totally came onto him, out of the blue, seducing him, ect. Nope. Don't beleive it. It is his ego talking. "Yeah, I am sooo hot, that this hot, sexy celebrity that I have not really even looked at in that way, comes onto me"

The fact that he said they had sex in the guest room. I wonder why that would be? Seems to me, if I had someone in my house, and seduced him, I would bring him to my bedroom. Could it be, he said the guest room, in case someone asks him to describe Paula's bedroom, he would not be able to?

You have to ask yourself, WHY? Why now after TWO YEARS is he coming out with this? Oh wait, he has a record coming out. That's it. He has not been in the limelight for two years, he needed a way to get his name back out there. How CONVENIENT that he "has to get this out, and clear his conscience" just as they are getting ready to put his CD on the shelves.

Here is my question...say it is ALL true. WHO cares? He was kicked off the show. He did not win the competition. No matter what Paula did with him behind the scenes, the public chooses the winner of this show. If my memory serves me correctly, he was not good. I thought he STUNK. I remember every week hoping it would be him or Kimberly Cladwell to get the boot. It was only a matter of time before the public booted his butt. And don't even try to tell me, that had he stayed in, the coaching he was supposedly getting from Paula would of helped him beat Clay or Ruben. No way, now how.

All this hype about Paula "fixing" the show. PTL should be embarrassed. It was obvious that he had an agenda. For his own PR. Oh, and I loved the part at the end when they showed his mother the lyrics to his song he wrote about Paula. Yeah, like she never saw the lyrics before. And she was SHOCKED, Now she is mad, that boy was in LOVE with Paula, and she broke his heart.



BLECH! GAG.

Corey Clark...go away. I am not going to buy your CD.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

OK, does anyone know if he was brought into the final 12 by way of public voting, or was he a wildcard? If he was a wildcard, who's choice was he?

 

[CarolA]

Understand that I do not believe his entire story. I would certainly question if they slept together. I do not think this kid is being totally honest. However, I am making the assumption that Prime Time Live verified that the phone numbers on his bill were Paula's phone number. I can't believe they would spend an hour doing this story and never checking to see if this was her number. If in fact it was her number, she should never have had any contact with him while he was on the show. I don't care if they spent hours only talking about the weather. She should not have been contacting him for any reason.

Lisa

You can't ..... See Dan Rather LOL! Fact checking seems to be a lost are lately!

 

[AllyandJack]

I don't know what to think. The thing that struck me as strange is when his friends said they met her at some club and they were together. Wouldn't someone else in the club at the very least have noticed Paula? Even if they didn't know he was a contestant, wouldn't some tabloid have picked up on Paula hanging all over some young man?

That's the only think that didn't sit right with me. Other than that, I don't really know. Honestly, I don't really care. He didn't win anyway, he's not doing anything now, so I don't see how it would be a big deal if they slept together and she told him to sing some song Randy likes and paid for his hair cut and clothes.

But, that's just my opinion. He probably got used to the big house and the nice cars and the star treatment and this is his bitter way of getting even with her for not continuting to support him in that lifestyle.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

I don't know what to think. The thing that struck me as strange is when his friends said they met her at some club and they were together. Wouldn't someone else in the club at the very least have noticed Paula? Even if they didn't know he was a contestant, wouldn't some tabloid have picked up on Paula hanging all over some young man?

That's the only think that didn't sit right with me. Other than that, I don't really know. Honestly, I don't really care. He didn't win anyway, he's not doing anything now, so I don't see how it would be a big deal if they slept together and she told him to sing some song Randy likes and paid for his hair cut and clothes.

But, that's just my opinion. He probably got used to the big house and the nice cars and the star treatment and this is his bitter way of getting even with her for not continuting to support him in that lifestyle.

Oh beleive me, if Paula had been seen "painting the town" with one of the contestants from AI, the newspapers and tabloids would of been ALL OVER IT.

 

[dizneenut]

I don't believe him. If this were all true, he should've come out with it 2 years ago, not wait until he has a CD and book coming out. He is doing this for $$ and publicity.
I never liked Corey and after last night, I really don't like him. He seems very sleazy to me.

 

[beattyfamily]

Seems very fishy to me!

They've interviewed several other contestants and they all say that they had NO free time, they all lived in that mansion together (I remember Clay being VERY afraid of the pool!) with bodyguards and producers watching over them. That they had barely any contact with the judges except when they were being judged.

When did he have this affair? From Midnight to 4:00a? How could he function in the competition then with so little sleep? When did he have time to rehearse, do the show, and sleep? How could NO ONE from the show see him sneak off in the middle of the night?

Seems fishy to me.

 

[skiwee1]

I was ready not to believe a word of it. After seeing the show and all the witnesses I believe every word of it. Hopefully they will remove Paula from the show.

 

[Sandy V.]

- I'm sorry, but if you people honestly think that a news program - post Dan Rather - is going to put documents on the air without verification, you're nuts. There is absolutely no way on Earth that those documents were faked, and they wouldn't have said they showed "calls to Abdul's number" if they didn't show just that.

- Yes, the guy is scummy for doing this, and yes, he's purely out for the money. That would also give him reason to lie. But it doesn't necessarily mean that he is lying.

- Remember, there doesn't have to be proof of a longstanding "relationship" between the two, just contact. Paula is a judge of a contest, and is in a position to influence the outcome of that contest. Having 2 and 3 hour long conversations with one of the contestants most definitely constitutes "contact".

- The phone records...the Sprint employee...the phone number he has...the message on his cell (if that wasn't Paula, it was certainly the best impression I've ever heard)...his friends and parents...the fact that Fox and Abdul went out of their way to shut him and Primetime up, rather than just laughing him off as a disgruntled loser who can't handle the fact that it's his own fault and nobody else's. If none of this is true, I'd say Clarke and his record company are in for a pretty hefty lawsuit....but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

I started watching the program last night thinking just like most of you...that Clark was just another scumbag out to make a buck off his 15 minutes of fame, and doing it in slimier fashion than most. But after watching....I hate to say it, but I think he's telling (at least mostly) the truth.

I agree with all of this. I also think Hillbeans makes a great point about the cough syrup with Paula's name on the bottle.

It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out, though. I wouldn't buy Corey Clark's CD anyway - his voice grates on me!!

 

[MrsKreamer]

- I'm sorry, but if you people honestly think that a news program - post Dan Rather - is going to put documents on the air without verification, you're nuts. There is absolutely no way on Earth that those documents were faked, and they wouldn't have said they showed "calls to Abdul's number" if they didn't show just that.

- Yes, the guy is scummy for doing this, and yes, he's purely out for the money. That would also give him reason to lie. But it doesn't necessarily mean that he is lying.

- Remember, there doesn't have to be proof of a longstanding "relationship" between the two, just contact. Paula is a judge of a contest, and is in a position to influence the outcome of that contest. Having 2 and 3 hour long conversations with one of the contestants most definitely constitutes "contact".

- The phone records...the Sprint employee...the phone number he has...the message on his cell (if that wasn't Paula, it was certainly the best impression I've ever heard)...his friends and parents...the fact that Fox and Abdul went out of their way to shut him and Primetime up, rather than just laughing him off as a disgruntled loser who can't handle the fact that it's his own fault and nobody else's. If none of this is true, I'd say Clarke and his record company are in for a pretty hefty lawsuit....but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

I started watching the program last night thinking just like most of you...that Clark was just another scumbag out to make a buck off his 15 minutes of fame, and doing it in slimier fashion than most. But after watching....I hate to say it, but I think he's telling (at least mostly) the truth.

This is the second time this week that I agree with you on something!

 

[LoraJ]

I agree with all of this. I also think Hillbeans makes a great point about the cough syrup with Paula's name on the bottle.

It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out, though. I wouldn't buy Corey Clark's CD anyway - his voice grates on me!!

Yup!!!!

Not sure if they had a sexual relationship, but I wouldn't doubt it. And now I am starting to wonder if something went on with Constantine. She did seem a bit too wrapped up in him.

 

[Sandy V.]

Not sure if they had a sexual relationship, but I wouldn't doubt it. And now I am starting to wonder if something went on with Constantine. She did seem a bit too wrapped up in him.

Don't get me started on how I feel about Paula's behavior regarding Constantine . . . ("It's official; I've fallen in love with you" - barf!)

Historically, Paula was always a good "mix" for the judges because she balanced out Simon's biting criticism. But somehow along the way, she's forgotten her role as judge, and she's become an advocate for certain performers she deems worthy. That's at least what I see.

Not that it would come to this, but who do you think would be a good replacement if Paula leaves? My personal choice is Gladys Knight, since she's been in the business since she was a kid, and has always appeared to me to be a great judge of talent as well as being supportive to the contestants.

 

[grinningghost]

If they had an affair (which I do believe they did), so what? Not a problem for me. Neither one was in another committed relationship, they were working together, things got hot, it happens.

But as for her helping him to win by selecting wardrobes and songs - not cool.

But in the end, I think he's a jerk for coming out with this crap 2 years later. If he was really concerned about the credibility of AI, he would have immediately reported Paula for offering to help him - 2 years ago.

He's an opportunist, plain and simple.