Where would you like to see a new DVC offsite resort?

[Brian Noble]

I have no interest in off-site locations. I bought DVC to stay onsite at WDW. My biggest worry with off-site locations would be that they distort the availability at WDW if more off-site owners want to book at WDW than onsite owners want to book off-site.

The interesting thing about WDW is that (a) it has good repeatability---it's a place you can return to many times before you tire of it---and (b) it's not particularly seasonal, because the best weather is counter-cyclical with school vacations. The summers in Central Florida are awful, but so many families stick to school calendars that they travel then anyway. And, WDW has created festivals/events that help draw crowds during otherwise low times---for example, the various runDisney weekends, etc.

There aren't many other locations like that. Beaches and ski resorts are very repeatable, but also highly seasonal in most parts of the world. Hawaii is an exception, but you have to fly, which makes things expensive. Main tourist destinations (DC, NY, etc.) aren't particularly repeatable unless you really get e.g. the Broadway bug. Finally, some other repeatable/non-seasonal locations are just not very likely to get built because of Disney's brand. For example, I don't ever imagine we'll see DVC-Las Vegas.

If the system were much larger and much more diverse, it would be okay to have places that folks don't need to return to very often, because there would be a lot of them. Wyndham works this way, and they are very successful. They have a similar home resort priority period, but it really doesn't matter at most places for most times of the year, because there's enough diversity in the system that it pulls people in different directions. They have a great Orlando resort landlocked by RCID and I-4 in Bonnet Creek, but they also have beaches, mountains, vegas, Hawaii, and urban destinations. In fact, Wyndham has switched to a deedless, club-style product that essentially has no home resort. New inventory is starting in this system, and are moving all the inventory they re-acquire into it as well.

In contrast, so much of the DVC capacity is strictly tied to WDW that you aren't really selling vacations in general, you're selling WDW. That's true even at the non-WDW resorts like Aulani. It would take a real shift in focus to change this. I don't see that shift in focus coming anytime soon, though.

 

[ludari]

Forget offsite I want to see more DVC rooms at Disneyland. I don't care of it's a new place or an expansion of GCV I just want to be able to book a room without being put on the wait list each and every time. Sorry of this sounds like a rant.

 

[majortom1981]

The interesting thing about WDW is that (a) it has good repeatability---it's a place you can return to many times before you tire of it---and (b) it's not particularly seasonal, because the best weather is counter-cyclical with school vacations. The summers in Central Florida are awful, but so many families stick to school calendars that they travel then anyway. And, WDW has created festivals/events that help draw crowds during otherwise low times---for example, the various runDisney weekends, etc.

There aren't many other locations like that. Beaches and ski resorts are very repeatable, but also highly seasonal in most parts of the world. Hawaii is an exception, but you have to fly, which makes things expensive. Main tourist destinations (DC, NY, etc.) aren't particularly repeatable unless you really get e.g. the Broadway bug. Finally, some other repeatable/non-seasonal locations are just not very likely to get built because of Disney's brand. For example, I don't ever imagine we'll see DVC-Las Vegas.

If the system were much larger and much more diverse, it would be okay to have places that folks don't need to return to very often, because there would be a lot of them. Wyndham works this way, and they are very successful. They have a similar home resort priority period, but it really doesn't matter at most places for most times of the year, because there's enough diversity in the system that it pulls people in different directions. They have a great Orlando resort landlocked by RCID and I-4 in Bonnet Creek, but they also have beaches, mountains, vegas, Hawaii, and urban destinations. In fact, Wyndham has switched to a deedless, club-style product that essentially has no home resort. New inventory is starting in this system, and are moving all the inventory they re-acquire into it as well.

In contrast, so much of the DVC capacity is strictly tied to WDW that you aren't really selling vacations in general, you're selling WDW. That's true even at the non-WDW resorts like Aulani. It would take a real shift in focus to change this. I don't see that shift in focus coming anytime soon, though.

In NYC Disney has broadway and a cruise line stop if they decide to sail there again . Making a small dvc in NYC would allow them to sell packages for all three.There are people who go to nyc every year especially during christmas . Also they would be able to make day trips to places like the hamptons , upstate NY , some of the casinos in Connecticut.

 

[TeeterTots]

The Caribbean

 

[DougEMG]

Forget offsite I want to see more DVC rooms at Disneyland. I don't care of it's a new place or an expansion of GCV I just want to be able to book a room without being put on the wait list each and every time. Sorry of this sounds like a rant.

More rooms at Disneyland I could totally go for.

 

[keishashadow]

The good thing about Puerto Rico is that you won't need a passport . The county of Dorado offers beautiful beaches and golf courses ! www.doradobeachclubs.com

So many choices out there ..

If DCL had a dedicated ship out of San Juan year-round, DVC likely could fill the rooms in a small 'boutique' resort. Most who cruise from that port enjoy adding a few days to their trip. We stay downtown or in the Condado area (usually the Hilton that offers a lagoon, since that area's beaches have such strong currents). Isla Verde is supposed to be better but we haven't tried it yet due to traffic concerns. Dorado area is likely too far out for cruise guests unless DVC/DCL would offer RT bus service to SJU/port.

Surprised one of the towers at the DLH hasn't yet been repurposed for DVC studio type units.

While I understand Castaway Cay doesn't have the infrastructure to support a resort, would love to see a DVC in the Eastern Caribbean. Perhaps a resort in the Bahamas could be combined with a cruise as a split stay option, sandwiched in between cruising. Not sure if that would work with closed loop itinerary restrictions (to avoid passport requirements for US citizens) though.

 

[CarolMN]

IMO, a better question would be:

For what off-site location would you BUY a DVC resort?

I'd like to visit lots of the suggested locations, but would never buy a timeshare at any of them.

Disney makes money by selling the resorts. It's just wishful thinking that they'll build where lots of people want to visit vs where lots of people want to buy. They know the difference.

 

[bwvBound]

Yeah, but I'm not the one who has to buy in at this point. I already have points. It is up to the NEW person to buy in and they can be "fooled" with respect to the new property's location as long as it is "in the Club."

 

[Simba's Mom]

DH, right away, said Alaska. However, there isn't really a market for year-round tourism in Alaska. That's why I agreed with the previously mentioned Colorado-Northern location that holds interest for year round. Another spot like that might be the White Mountains of New Hampshire-skiing in winter and outdoor nature in summer.

 

[Brian Noble]

Another spot like that might be the White Mountains of New Hampshire-skiing in winter and outdoor nature in summer.

Smuggler's Notch in Vermont is a good example---it is very popular. But, it still has a couple of "mud weeks" in the shoulder seasons that are hard sells.

 

[thepops]

I'm surprised no one has suggested Oslo Norway! This way they can move all the Frozen stuff there!

 

[RumpleMom]

I would really like to see a new DVC resort on a Gulf of Mexico beach. I have been looking at the RCI choices and many of them seem to be converted motels that were built many years ago. I wish Disney would buy one of these old motels and build a beautiful Disney quality resort. I want the beautiful blue water without leaving the US.

 

[csimonri]

I was just thinking about this yesterday. I'm not even sure how they would do this, they'd obviously have to convert something, and I'm sure it would never happen, but I was looking in to a trip to NYC for my family and noticed that none of the hotels seem very kid friendly. I was thinking how awesome it would be to have a Disney hotel in NYC. Again, like I said, probably not realistic.

I believe that there was a Disney NYC time square project. There is concept art etc. If you search you can find it. The problem is the economy tanked. and they sold the project to another company. I believe Wyndham or some other group. I do not remember exactly the company. So you are on the right track.... because at some point Disney thought it was a good idea also!

 

[csimonri]

There was also the rumored Washington DC National Harbor, which Disney totally shelved. They aren't going to build unless they think they can sell the points in a reasonable time. After the long sell at HH, VB (even after scaling back) and Aulani, I don't see it happening. They can command a premium price at WDW because of the parks. Elsewhere, it's difficult.

Disney owned and built National Harbor. that is why it looks so much like a Disney resort. They never finished it. The coming attractions board was posted there up until a few years ago. Disney has since sold this project off also. Some other company has taken over development of the site. It is a cool place if anyone has the chance to check it out.

 

[DebbieB]

Disney owned and built National Harbor. that is why it looks so much like a Disney resort. They never finished it. The coming attractions board was posted there up until a few years ago. Disney has since sold this project off also. Some other company has taken over development of the site. It is a cool place if anyone has the chance to check it out.

They never started construction, they just purchased a portion of the land for a hotel.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Disney-Nixes-National-Harbor-Project-134530398.html

http://www.yesterland.com/harbor.html

 

[littlestar]

I would like a DVC resort in Gatlinburg or Pigeon Forge. Love the Smokies.

 

[seelyt2]

I agree with the above locations...I'd add Virginia Beach since it's within a day's driving distance for those in the northeast and on the beach.

 

[bwvBound]

So now that you've dreamt of new locations ... have you looked at all the various collections offered through DVC to see if there are any suitable resorts that might be booked using your DVC points in those locations?

 

[MinnieMouse100]

A family ski resort (rockies or Appalachians)

 

[DebbieB]

So now that you've dreamt of new locations ... have you looked at all the various collections offered through DVC to see if there are any suitable resorts that might be booked using your DVC points in those locations?

Agree, Disney is never going to build any of these. Do you think they could sell Virginia Beach or Vermont at $170 a point?