Where is the Outrage!?

[acepepper]

Originally posted by DawnCt1
I can't imagine that if a very large number of Congregationalists were murdering innocents in the name of God, that every pastor in every pulpit wouldn't be denouncing this behavior every Sunday, in every church in this country and through out the world. Yes, religious organizations and their followers have a duty and obligation to speak out against evil whereever and when ever they see it.

This is also not true. When the IRA bombings were at their height, there were actually catholic priests who were giving them sanctuary. There were also those in the US who didn't denounce them either. But that was because they were supplying them with the funds for their arms and explosives.

 

[Teejay32]

Originally posted by acepepper
This is also not true. When the IRA bombings were at their height, there were actually catholic priests who were giving them sanctuary. There were also those in the US who didn't denounce them either. But that was because they were supplying them with the funds for their arms and explosives.

So then, did Irish Catholics support the IRA?

 

[DawnCt1]

Originally posted by acepepper
This is also not true. When the IRA bombings were at their height, there were actually catholic priests who were giving them sanctuary. There were also those in the US who didn't denounce them either. But that was because they were supplying them with the funds for their arms and explosives.

I did say Congregationalists. If there were segments of the Catholic Church supporting terrorists then I would also consider them terrorists and they should held accountable.

 

[acepepper]

Originally posted by Teejay32
So then, did Irish Catholics support the IRA?

Some did, yes. But I'm sure the vast majority didn't. And although they didn't demonstrate in the streets, I never took that as a sign that they supported terrorism, as the op of this thread seems to be suggesting about muslims.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by Doug123
Open your mind up a little to the possibility that what you see on tv is not always the FULL truth.

Words to live by.

It's a shame when people form opinions about things (for example, the situation in Iraq) based on the sound bites and short (repeating, regurgitated) video clips. But I think sometimes that it's all that some people need to see because they already have their opinions firmly established and learning (as Paul Harvey would say..) "the rest of the story" is falling on an already closed mind.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Originally posted by acepepper
The implication of this thread seems to be, that if Muslims aren't demonstrating in the streets about these murders, then they must support them. That's warped thinking.

While it might look that way, a recent poll (posted by someone else in another thread) in the Arab streets tells an entirely different story as to their feelings about the beheadings.

It appears that the majority of them (the Arab world in the middle east) do support the beheadings as a legitimate action.

Maybe this is part of the reason we don't hear a large number of Muslims from outside the region denouncing the beheadings.

 

[snarfer1]

Those telling us not to believe what we hear/see or more importantly DO NOT hear/see in the media, are just as quick to accept media statements about the 'bogged down' war in Iraq, or the 'fact' that the majority of Iraqis want us out.

Seems somewhat two faced to me...

I completely agree with the original poster. I've yet to meet or hear of a moderate leader of Islam.

-Tony

Wishful thinking does not make them nice people!

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by snarfer1
Those telling us not to believe what we hear/see or more importantly DO NOT hear/see in the media, are just as quick to accept media statements about the 'bogged down' war in Iraq, or the 'fact' that the majority of Iraqis want us out.

Seems somewhat two faced to me...

I completely agree with the original poster. I've yet to meet or hear of a moderate leader of Islam.

-Tony

Wishful thinking does not make them nice people!

Tony, I like to quote your posts! I hope thats okay?

I was watching a news show where some big wig was asking why Bush didn't wait for UN approval before we jumped into the war. He feels that if we had waited and had more help from foreign troops(our allies) then it would have been better.

Can you clarify "them"?

We also have some undeniable facts to go on too. We have dead bodies, Iraqi civilians who volunteer to become policemen getting bombed, we have random terorist like bombings in Iraq, we have beheadings of Americans and others......

Can you give me some facts that what we are doing in Iraq is stopping terrorism, going as planned, or making the world a better place?

 

[acepepper]

Originally posted by snarfer1
I've yet to meet or hear of a moderate leader of Islam.

That's because you haven't looked or maybe because you don't want to hear it. Read this link and open your mind a little. http://cgi.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/25/britain.hostage.reut/

 

[danacara]

Originally posted by DawnCt1
We have heard from the Muslim community on the refusal of the United States to allow Cat Stevens into the country. They have weighed in on the news, radio and in print; HOWEVER, where is the outrage from the Muslim community on the beheadings and murders of the Italian women? If even !% of them took to the streets to condemn the other !%, of their radical brothers, that would be 1 million people. The silence continues to be deafening.

Your insinuation is that "the Muslim community" (however you define that - do you mean domestic or international?) is secretly in favor of beheadings and murders, right?
I would challenge that for a number of reasons. But, let's just say for the moment that you're right, and that's true, and somehow provable. What would you propose? Bomb them? There's really no solution for it. You have a right in the US to feel however you'd like to feel, and say (or not say) whatever you 'd like to say.

 

[missypie]

I think that most Muslims don't identify with the terrorists, just like most Seventh Day Adventists didn't identify with David Koresh, and most Christians of any kind don't identify with the folks who bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors.

 

[manchurianbrownbear]

I don't believe that moderate Muslims are OBLIGATED to say or do anything regarding the activities of Muslims terrorists.

I do believe they are our best hope for reducing the distrust of Muslims in general.

Thinking like a PR person, if I were active in a Muslim mosque I would think that a "peace rally", or "support our troops rally" would make a lot of my neighbors feel a lot better.

 

[ford family]

"It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."

True or false?
Or does your answer depend on knowing who said it?

ford family

 

[acepepper]

Originally posted by ford family
"It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."

True or false?
Or does your answer depend on knowing who said it?

ford family

I would say that in the present world climate, that would be true.

 

[grlpwrd]

Perhaps the moderate Muslims are afraid of what the extremist Muslims will do to them if they speak out. Well, that's what I had read.