When your job impacts your child

KAMKIM -- I hear what you're saying.

What I'm questioning is the impact that a society of primarily two-parent working families will have on children. I'm asking, is that the best societal structure for the development of children?

My opinion is no and I think the unpopular PP was expressing frustration at kids getting put second -- behind the parents' work.

It shouldn't take two parents working to provide basics like healthcare and food. And I would like to see politicians work to put back a structure -- and put policies in place -- where a family can live on one parent's income. I think it's better for the children and it's better for families.

I'm not all -- put the women back in the home!!! -- but I think a mother or a dad should have the option to stay home with their children and it's insane that in this country that's becoming financially impossible.

I understand that this is your opinon and being well entitled to it but this probably isn't the thread to bring it up. The OP can't change the situation she is in and has to deal with reality and drumming that you think not having a parent at home isn't helping doesn't help or support the OP.

I don't do the whole mommy/wife/woman war thing. I do what is needed for my family while taking care of my own. I know for every brat that has been a "latchkey kid" and now is a bratty adult there are equal amounts of bratty adults raised with a parent in the home at all times. I'm pretty sure it's about parenting and not where or how the parenting is happening.

OP, you are doing a great job and you have a good attitude. Don't let anyone get you down.
 
I am not a single working mother and that is mainly due to the fact I was raised by one.

I've been where the OP's son is...and it isn't a great place. Children have a very limited perspective. So in his little mind, Mom's work is more important than him getting to school on time.

The child was 20 minutes late for school....it's not the end of the world. And there are all kinds of inconveniences and difficulties in life, that we all have to learn to deal with. The mom needs the job in order to support she and her son.

My mom worked all the years I was growing-up, and I don't think it hurt me in the least.
 
I didn't. :) My mother didn't choose to be a single parent. As a child, when my mother had to miss activities/school events due to work, I was angry and hurt and believed her work was more important than I was ~ as a child.

As an adult, I understand she did what she had to do to keep food on the table and a roof over our heads.

But like I said earlier, children have a very limited perspective when it comes to their parents and the world in general. Hopefully, it was just a blip on his radar and he'll have forgotten by the time he gets home. :goodvibes

It definetely sounded like you did. Your first sentence was "I am not a single working mother and that is mainly due to the fact I was raised by one." It sounds like you're saying that either you're not single due to being raised by someone that was, you're not working due to being by someone that was or both:confused3 No matter what, some ppl. (specifically OP, as it sounds pretty obvious to me,) don't have that luxury. Good for you if you have the option of being a SAHM and married to someone that makes the money for your family; however it's pretty evident that isn't something that OP gets the luxury of having. Your initial post came off as if you were not only throwing that in her face, but then also making her feel bad about it:sad2:
Not something I as a working mom or sahm would want to teach my children:confused3
 

It shouldn't take two parents working to provide basics like healthcare and food. And I would like to see politicians work to put back a structure -- and put policies in place -- where a family can live on one parent's income. I think it's better for the children and it's better for families.

Who would pay for that? The childless couples?
 
I really long for the days when there was one parent at home -- for the sake of the kids and for the family, in general. Politicians are now proposing lengthening the school day by three hours in order to cover that "at-risk" time for kids -- the time between school letting out and their parents getting home from work. I think it's just sad we're putting this burden on our kids. Kids getting shipped off to daycare or placed with nannies as infants, extending the school day so that they be supervised properly because parents aren't there. ...

What a lovely rose-coloured vision -- it's such a shame that it's largely fiction. I don't know how old you are, but I remember those "wonderful days".

Fact is, mothers throughout time (yes, even in the halcyon 1950's) were usually much too preoccupied with household chores to spend much if any quality time with young kids. Those who had enough money to have household help normally used that help as a babysitter as well, which meant that the kids were equally ignored by TWO women, not just one.

When I was a kid in the early 60's, it was perfectly normal for an infant to be woken up and fed at around 6 am, then placed in a play pen for the rest of the day while Mom did the household chores. They got picked up for needed diaper changes and lunch, but otherwise right back into the playpen they went -- kids normally napped in their pens. Mothers did this partly to keep children safe, so that they wouldn't drown in mop buckets, burn themselves on hot stoves, tumble down stairs, or get caught in washing-machine mangles. However, they also did it because they were just too busy to coddle children while there was work to be done, and the playpen was a safe place to leave them more-or-less unattended. When I was home with Mom at age 4, I scrubbed floors, scoured saucepans and peeled buckets of potatoes, because my mother wanted to keep me busy and out of her hair. She got up at 5, made breakfast from scratch for the family, then shoved the older kids out the door toward the bus and started in on the dishes. Once that was done there was the laundry to start, then lunch to make, then after lunch more washing-up, then the laundry to hang out, the garden to weed, and the floors to mop, plus beds to make, rooms to dust, and sewing to do. Her one break was afternoon coffee with a neighbor lady; I played in the yard for that 20 minutes while they had coffee on the porch.

Once I was old enough to go outside unattended, my life got a lot easier, because believe me, if I was in the same room with my Mom during the day, play was never part of the equation. My experience was like most other kids of that era -- once I got to be school-aged, my mother routinely threw me out of the house to hang out with friends once my chores were done, and on summer days I wasn't allowed to set foot back inside except to quickly go to the bathroom and maybe to eat my lunch. If I wanted a drink before or after lunch, then I knew where I could find the hose.

My mother grew up on a farm in the 1920's. At age 4, one of her primary chores was to hold a bucket to collect the blood when animals were slaughtered, which happened several times a week. She was given this chore because she was good at it, and because she was there -- her older siblings were at school during that part of the day. At age 2, my cousin's children on that same farm now routinely feed the cattle using pitchforks; by grade school they are driving tractors out to the field both before and after school hours, plus feeding animals before school and mucking out barns after. They are NOT hanging out with Dad playing blocks or reading storybooks, though he's "home" all day most days -- negotiating prices, stocking supplies, repairing equipment, and caring for the livestock -- worming the cattle and such. (His wife is not home; she's a bookkeeper for the local school system.)

Today's working-class and middle-class kids get a LOT more one-on-one time with their parents that does not involve backbreaking labor and/or physical danger. The "good-old-days" before about 1965 were a time when leisure for women during the weekday was largely unheard of unless she had the money to hire at least some part-time household help.

There was a reason that women at home during the day 60 years ago were called housewives. The idea that your primary responsibility is childcare is a new one; back then your primary responsibility was housework; childcare was a much less hands-on thing, and came in a distant second in importance. Once out of diapers, if your kids were there they were expected to be helping you, not getting underfoot and causing a drain on your time.
 
I have a job that I love, I'm good at, I think is very important, and provides me and my son with security and a decent standard of living. As a single parent I feel really fortunate that if I have to work I'm doing something like this. Usually I manage the working and parenting thing just fine, and then there days like today when I feel like the worst mother in the world.

My job involves working with children with special needs and their families. Today we had an emergency meeting for a child in crisis. This meeting had to happen today, and the only time it could be scheduled was early in the morning. I made the decision to bring my 10 year old to the meeting (he wasn't actually in the meeting, but in the waiting area with a book). I really hoped that I'd be able to sneak out and bring him to school on time, but it just didn't happen. At the moment he would have had to leave we were in the midst of a really heartbreaking decision making process, walking out just didn't seem right.

So, I dropped him off 20 minutes late. All he missed was "morning meeting", but he still walked in late, which as a kind of shy kid who loves the please the teacher, I know he hated. Furthermore, when I dropped him off I reminded him that I had another meeting scheduled at exactly the time when I'd need to pick him up from afteschool play practice, so my mom would be getting him and taking him back to her place. She'll help him with his homework, and I'll meet them there for dinner. This was our Thursday routine last year and he was fine with it, but this is our first time doing it this year and he said he'd rather go straight home.

Anyway, he got out the car in tears (it's also allergy season for him, so he hasn't been sleeping well and by the end of the week is exhausted). My heart was breaking for him.

Not sure if I want to vent, or get some constructive ideas.

Hi...sorry you feel bad about this. Let me give you another perspective on how these little incidents can actually be great at teaching your child about how the real world is.

I have a friend who is very smart and talented and very high up in her work. She provided a great income to her family and a GREAT family life. And she was high enough up that she could pretty much set her schedule (work from home when needed, and her husband also worked from home) so she was at everything for her kids. Their life was really as easy as possible.

Fast forward to high school. One child doing great, but the other, having serious trouble with the whole idea of working for a living. Since he never saw his mom break a sweat, or have to not be at things because of her work, he just doesn't get it. He doesn't want to have any kind of work schedule that conflicts with his personal fun time. He never realized his mom was working nights and weekends so she could be at everything for him.

It is not a good scenario.

Unless your child is sick or hurt, sometimes WORK DOES COME FIRST. And that's OK, and a great lesson for your child to learn now.
 
OP, I'll give you my perspective. I wasn't the daughter of a Single Working Mother but I was the daughter of a working mother and given life with my Father at times the single part might have improved things. To make matters even worse - my Mom didn't even HAVE to work. She did it because she liked it AND because she felt it was important.

Was there times in my childhood that I felt sad because my Mom missed something? Yep.

Oh No! A child felt sad!!! Somebody call the United Nations and form a task force! A child in America got taught the lesson that even with your Mom life is about balance and sometimes it isn't all about you.

And to tell you the truth there were even times that I felt proud of my Mom. She might have missed some PTA meetings, but it was usually because she was working in the Emergency Room -- you know, saving lives and piddly little squat like that. She did good work, my Mom.

It appears that your child is well loved, housed, and fed. None of us our perfect and this concept that every child deserves the perfect life where he/she is always priority number one is neither reasonable or healthy.

It's fine. Let the guilt go.
 
OP, many other voices here have said what I was going to say -- chin up, you're doing the best you can, and your little guy will be okay. It's obvious you're a good mom and you guys will find the right solution for you.

I'm blessed to work from home, and I do a job that allows my guys to actually participate much of the time. But there are many times that I have to do an interview or crunch a deadline where I can't devote my full attention to them. They're at ages (9 and 11) where they understand they can't be the center of the circus all the time. And they're cool with it -- because they know that even when my focus isn't on them, my heart's still theirs!
 
OP-
Every good mom has to juggle to make it all happen. You are actually setting a good example for your child so that he can see that it is sometime necessary to change course to attend to the needs of others. I believe you said that this was an emergency meeting for a child in crisis. Even if your child doesn't fully understand that you were dealing with the needs of a child in crisis now, he will understand this kind of situation in the future and admire and appreciate your dedication.

Children do not fall apart that easily unless they have been coddled and then those are the ones to worry about as they will be the grown adults with issues.

I have tons of flexibility in my work schedule which allows me to help in my dd's classrooms, help with field trips, etc. At the same time, there are times when my work requires me to take them to meetings with me or park them in my office for an hour while I am across the hall. It's give and take---and it works out just fine.

Note- My parents were a two-career family and had to work out child-care arrangements for me when I was little that sometimes meant being pulled off routine. You know what I learned from it---that being a professional means upholding professional responsibilities, that I can read a book in more than one location while waiting for my dad, and just because my parents have other responsibilities doesn't mean that they didn't love me as much as humanly possible.

I am not a single working mother and that is mainly due to the fact I was raised by one.

I've been where the OP's son is...and it isn't a great place. Children have a very limited perspective. So in his little mind, Mom's work is more important than him getting to school on time.
 
OP, I think you sound like a great mom. You know what? Stuff happens to everyone. Some day, your son is going to remember all the times you were there for him. He'll forget 1 morning that he was late for school. And he'll be proud of his mom who helped kids in crisis.

I'm not a single parent (I'm not a parent at all), nor was I raised by one. But my dad was. And he turned out great, and he was always proud of his mom who worked hard so he & his brothers & sisters could eat & had a roof over his head.
 
I am not a single working mother and that is mainly due to the fact I was raised by one.

I've been where the OP's son is...and it isn't a great place. Children have a very limited perspective. So in his little mind, Mom's work is more important than him getting to school on time.


They also have a short memory. Unless this is happening all the time, he is not going to dwell on this. Your "holier than thou" attitude is not going to win you many friends.


OP, all parents have been in the situation you were in; don't worry about it, you're doing fine.
 
Then as an adult, perhaps you should be more supportive of other adults.....I feel sorry for your mother.

Don't be...she's wonderful and a great friend. :)

OP, even though I did it privately, I will also apologize publically for my first post. It was rude and I'm sorry. :flower3:
 
Another point, OP. I am sure your son knows what kind of work you do and knows that it is your job to help people. You are setting a great example for him that sometimes you put someone else's needs above your own. It's called self-sacrifice, and it is one of the qualities you want to instill in your child.

I will go out on a limb in this working mom debate and tell you that I probably don't really NEED to work. I want to work. I spent years in school and years learning on the job to be where I am today. I get a lot of satisfaction out of my work and most of the time actually enjoy it. I enjoy being able to provide for my family. That doesn't make me a bad mother, it just makes me a person who made a different choice.
 
They also have a short memory. Unless this is happening all the time, he is not going to dwell on this. Your "holier than thou" attitude is not going to win you many friends.


OP, all parents have been in the situation you were in; don't worry about it, you're doing fine.

I'm not on the internet to make friends. :lmao: That's what my real life is for. ;)
 
What a lovely rose-coloured vision -- it's such a shame that it's largely fiction. I don't know how old you are, but I remember those "wonderful days".

Fact is, mothers throughout time (yes, even in the halcyon 1950's) were usually much too preoccupied with household chores to spend much if any quality time with young kids. Those who had enough money to have household help normally used that help as a babysitter as well, which meant that the kids were equally ignored by TWO women, not just one.

When I was a kid in the early 60's, it was perfectly normal for an infant to be woken up and fed at around 6 am, then placed in a play pen for the rest of the day while Mom did the household chores. They got picked up for needed diaper changes and lunch, but otherwise right back into the playpen they went -- kids normally napped in their pens. Mothers did this partly to keep children safe, so that they wouldn't drown in mop buckets, burn themselves on hot stoves, tumble down stairs, or get caught in washing-machine mangles. However, they also did it because they were just too busy to coddle children while there was work to be done, and the playpen was a safe place to leave them more-or-less unattended. When I was home with Mom at age 4, I scrubbed floors, scoured saucepans and peeled buckets of potatoes, because my mother wanted to keep me busy and out of her hair. She got up at 5, made breakfast from scratch for the family, then shoved the older kids out the door toward the bus and started in on the dishes. Once that was done there was the laundry to start, then lunch to make, then after lunch more washing-up, then the laundry to hang out, the garden to weed, and the floors to mop, plus beds to make, rooms to dust, and sewing to do. Her one break was afternoon coffee with a neighbor lady; I played in the yard for that 20 minutes while they had coffee on the porch.

Once I was old enough to go outside unattended, my life got a lot easier, because believe me, if I was in the same room with my Mom during the day, play was never part of the equation. My experience was like most other kids of that era -- once I got to be school-aged, my mother routinely threw me out of the house to hang out with friends once my chores were done, and on summer days I wasn't allowed to set foot back inside except to quickly go to the bathroom and maybe to eat my lunch. If I wanted a drink before or after lunch, then I knew where I could find the hose.

My mother grew up on a farm in the 1920's. At age 4, one of her primary chores was to hold a bucket to collect the blood when animals were slaughtered, which happened several times a week. She was given this chore because she was good at it, and because she was there -- her older siblings were at school during that part of the day. At age 2, my cousin's children on that same farm now routinely feed the cattle using pitchforks; by grade school they are driving tractors out to the field both before and after school hours, plus feeding animals before school and mucking out barns after. They are NOT hanging out with Dad playing blocks or reading storybooks, though he's "home" all day most days -- negotiating prices, stocking supplies, repairing equipment, and caring for the livestock -- worming the cattle and such. (His wife is not home; she's a bookkeeper for the local school system.)

Today's working-class and middle-class kids get a LOT more one-on-one time with their parents that does not involve backbreaking labor and/or physical danger. The "good-old-days" before about 1965 were a time when leisure for women during the weekday was largely unheard of unless she had the money to hire at least some part-time household help.

There was a reason that women at home during the day 60 years ago were called housewives. The idea that your primary responsibility is childcare is a new one; back then your primary responsibility was housework; childcare was a much less hands-on thing, and came in a distant second in importance. Once out of diapers, if your kids were there they were expected to be helping you, not getting underfoot and causing a drain on your time.

This is a great post, and oh so true. It's only our boomer generation that started with the child as the center of the universe parenting style.

My father's parents were farmers as well....you started working when you started walking! Parents didn't play with kids then....they worked alongside of them.

My mother's family was a life of hardship....she was the youngest of 8 and her dad was hospitalized with TB. They scraped along, and my grandmother had to sell popcorn on the streets near the movie theater and take in borders to survive. There was no time to play, and you can bet my mom was on her own at an early age.

My parents were farmers as well, and when I was young, it was UNHEARD of for parents to play with their children. My mom was in the kitchen from early in the morning making meal after meal after meal for my dad and his helpers.

My job was to entertain myself and keep out of the way!
 
KAMKIM -- I hear what you're saying.

What I'm questioning is the impact that a society of primarily two-parent working families will have on children. I'm asking, is that the best societal structure for the development of children?

My opinion is no and I think the unpopular PP was expressing frustration at kids getting put second -- behind the parents' work.

It shouldn't take two parents working to provide basics like healthcare and food. And I would like to see politicians work to put back a structure -- and put policies in place -- where a family can live on one parent's income. I think it's better for the children and it's better for families.

I'm not all -- put the women back in the home!!! -- but I think a mother or a dad should have the option to stay home with their children and it's insane that in this country that's becoming financially impossible.


Families with both parents working has been around for generations, this isn't new. I know my great-grandmothers and grandmothers were all nurses or teachers. They didn't stay home, they worked and I'm damned proud of them!
 
What a lovely rose-coloured vision -- it's such a shame that it's largely fiction. I don't know how old you are, but I remember those "wonderful days".

The fact of the matter is 80% of working mothers in a recent poll said that they would choose to not work full-time and would stay home with their children if they had a choice. But their comments were that their families could not survive without their paychecks.

I'm saying that it's insane that many women no longer even have the option to stay home and be with their children.

But as a PP said, this is a diversion and not helpful to the OP -- it's better off on a different thread.

I think we all agree that the OP is doing the best she can and deserves our support -- and I think I've already expressed that as have many others.
 












Save Up to 30% on Rooms at Walt Disney World!

Save up to 30% on rooms at select Disney Resorts Collection hotels when you stay 5 consecutive nights or longer in late summer and early fall. Plus, enjoy other savings for shorter stays.This offer is valid for stays most nights from August 1 to October 11, 2025.
CLICK HERE







New Posts







DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest

Back
Top