When will Riviera Sell Out?

[tx911]

Would love if the 30 months happens!

I'm just wondering if sales will accelerate as it approaches sold out status.

Riviera is the first restricted resort approaching this, and there is a pretty large delta between direct and resale Riviera points!

 

[airjay75]

I'm just wondering if sales will accelerate as it approaches sold out status.

Riviera is the first restricted resort approaching this, and there is a pretty large delta between direct and resale Riviera points!

I gotta think there are a fair number of us direct holders who want more direct points before our only two options are the heavily restricted resale contracts or the new “sold out” direct pricing rate. But so hard to predict how that will play out in conjunction with current Poly sales and folks buying direct RIV for the first time. Wish I had a crystal ball.

 

[tx911]

I gotta think there are a fair number of us direct holders who want more direct points before our only two options are the heavily restricted resale contracts or the new “sold out” direct pricing rate. But so hard to predict how that will play out in conjunction with current Poly sales and folks buying direct RIV for the first time. Wish I had a crystal ball.

 

[muppets3d]

I gotta think there are a fair number of us direct holders who want more direct points before our only two options are the heavily restricted resale contracts or the new “sold out” direct pricing rate. But so hard to predict how that will play out in conjunction with current Poly sales and folks buying direct RIV for the first time. Wish I had a crystal ball.

firesale notwithstanding it's probably best to buy now (or at least, just before your use year rolls over), because it's rare that the next round of incentives are better than the current ones and magical beginning is better than pretty much any incentive. what's it gonna take to get you into 200 more points today?

 

[Girlstar30]

I tend to agree with those that think it will sell out sooner than later, im in the camp that it will be sold out by mid next year

 

[airjay75]

firesale notwithstanding it's probably best to buy now (or at least, just before your use year rolls over), because it's rare that the next round of incentives are better than the current ones and magical beginning is better than pretty much any incentive. what's it gonna take to get you into 200 more points today?

Yeah, that is probably the conclusion I’m going to come to in these next few months (if not sooner ).

 

[PolyRob]

@Girlstar30 did you see this?

RIV is around 78% sold. Speculation is end of 2026.

https://dvcnews.com/dvc-program-men...y-vacation-club-direct-sales-slow-in-may-2025

 

[Girlstar30]

@Girlstar30 did you see this?

RIV is around 78% sold. Speculation is end of 2026.

https://dvcnews.com/dvc-program-men...y-vacation-club-direct-sales-slow-in-may-2025

Oh snap reading right now!

 

[Girlstar30]

@Girlstar30 did you see this?

RIV is around 78% sold. Speculation is end of 2026.

https://dvcnews.com/dvc-program-men...y-vacation-club-direct-sales-slow-in-may-2025

Thanks for sharing, I love reading these reports! So this makes me happy and scared at the same time. Sales are lagging major behind PVB and there's a new resort being built, fast.

Since people aren't being incentivized are they going to have better incentives? Normally this would be great, but im not ready!

Ofc if people were buying more i would be freaking out too. I am just two incentive rounds away from being able to purchase with confidence. If they can just wait for me it would be much appreciated

 

[muppets3d]

Thanks for sharing, I love reading these reports! So this makes me happy and scared at the same time. Sales are lagging major behind PVB and there's a new resort being built, fast.

Since people aren't being incentivized are they going to have better incentives? Normally this would be great, but im not ready!

Ofc if people were buying more i would be freaking out too. I am just two incentive rounds away from being able to purchase with confidence. If they can just wait for me it would be much appreciated

Riviera has been on sale for like 6 years now, the Island Tower is new. The Island Tower is on the monorail loop. The Island Tower is also a smaller number of points than Riviera.

Frankly with as slow as Riviera has sold I question the thought that DVC would be interested in adding a second tower to the resort.

 

[airjay75]

Riviera has been on sale for like 6 years now, the Island Tower is new. The Island Tower is on the monorail loop. The Island Tower is also a smaller number of points than Riviera.

Frankly with as slow as Riviera has sold I question the thought that DVC would be interested in adding a second tower to the resort.

That is definitely one perspective, and may well be the one DVC will have. Time would tell - any of us would certainly be fools buying RIV thinking that an expansion is anything other than a very remote possibility. But, I'll put forth a different perspective. I haven't looked at historical sales over the past 6 years, but I would presume there was pretty significant disruption 2021-2023. When you combine that with the fact that RIV is the first resort with the resale restrictions, I think that was quite the perfect combination to slow down sales significantly. I can't imagine there were a lot of new DVC purchasers during that period, and I would imagine a lot of the existing DVC owners had a combination of skepticism about the resale restrictions and/or doubts about just how soon Disney would return to some semblance of normalcy - even to this day, I think most people argue Disney has still not restored everything they did away with during COVID (and, some things are likely gone forever).

PIT, OTOH, came online in fall of 2024, well after the disruption of COVID, was brand new, on the monorail loop, AND does not have the same resale restrictions. As a recent purchase of RIV points, when I heard that during our RIV tour, I was like, oh, you better march me right over to PIT because why would I buy into a resort with restrictions when I can buy one without them. Of course, the more I considered the long-term, I came to my senses and bought where I see myself wanting to stay more often.

Imagine if RIV had launched with the same resale restrictions as PIT (i.e., just future resorts) and without the disruption of COVID. I think we'd be looking at a very different sales history. How much is attributable to COVID vs. the resale restrictions? Hard to tell. It would be interesting if you run an experiment where COVID never happened - if the sales were similarly just as slow, one could see a world in which DVC suddenly started questioning resale restrictions - but, here we are. Where is my crystal ball? Haha.

 

[The Jackal]

Riviera has been on sale for like 6 years now, the Island Tower is new. The Island Tower is on the monorail loop. The Island Tower is also a smaller number of points than Riviera.

Frankly with as slow as Riviera has sold I question the thought that DVC would be interested in adding a second tower to the resort.

Well slow sales is partially the fault of DVC. They announced VGF2 and Poly Island Tower. If they didn’t do these two resorts as soon it would have been sold out by now. DVC had a fire sale on VGF2 to get it sold out before Poly Isl. Tower opened. I predict DVC will have RIV sold out before LL opens.

 

[muppets3d]

I know resale restrictions are a big deal to the membership on enthusiast boards like this and TUG, but does anyone else care? I doubt it.

 

[airjay75]

I know resale restrictions are a big deal to the membership on enthusiast boards like this and TUG, but does anyone else care? I doubt it.

Obviously I’m colored by my own experience, but my experience was this. Didn’t know much about DVC at all. Was on my 2nd trip within 12 months and was like, hmm, maybe I should go check this out. I contacted DVC on our check-out day to see if we could tour RIV - I picked RIV to tour instead of PIT because it was the first resort listed, the pictures looked nice, it was pretty close to where we were staying (Coronado), and it seemed to be the cheapest. I really knew nothing at that point other than what my guide told me. As soon as I heard RIV had resale restrictions that PIT did not, I was like, you better show me PIT - that seems like a way less risky proposition in case I ever want to get out of this. Of course, I then started down the rabbit hole of DVC research, and ended up in a different spot. I don’t doubt I’m in a different category of DVC purchaser, but I think anyone considering a $25k+ purchase who hears about those resale restrictions does have a least a slight amount of pause.

 

[byurick]

I know resale restrictions are a big deal to the membership on enthusiast boards like this and TUG, but does anyone else care? I doubt it.

Having spoken with random DVC folks at the parks it's pretty clear the normies (ie: non disboard folks) don't have a clue.

 

[muppets3d]

Having spoken with random DVC folks at the parks it's pretty clear the normies (ie: non disboard folks) don't have a clue.

Yeah that was always my hunch. Recall that DVC has 250k members give or take. Lots of folks who bought their points, book their stays, and pay their dues, and that's all they need. Which is fair enough!

 

[Brian Noble]

If you wonder what the average owner thinks, strike up a conversation in the hot tub.

I bet you'll be surprised at how little they think about it. For most people, it's just vacation.

 

[tx911]

If you wonder what the average owner thinks, strike up a conversation in the hot tub.

I bet you'll be surprised at how little they think about it. For most people, it's just vacation.

Imagine it's just vacation...it's easy if you try.
Love that mentality!

 

[Girlstar30]

That is definitely one perspective, and may well be the one DVC will have. Time would tell - any of us would certainly be fools buying RIV thinking that an expansion is anything other than a very remote possibility. But, I'll put forth a different perspective. I haven't looked at historical sales over the past 6 years, but I would presume there was pretty significant disruption 2021-2023. When you combine that with the fact that RIV is the first resort with the resale restrictions, I think that was quite the perfect combination to slow down sales significantly. I can't imagine there were a lot of new DVC purchasers during that period, and I would imagine a lot of the existing DVC owners had a combination of skepticism about the resale restrictions and/or doubts about just how soon Disney would return to some semblance of normalcy - even to this day, I think most people argue Disney has still not restored everything they did away with during COVID (and, some things are likely gone forever).

PIT, OTOH, came online in fall of 2024, well after the disruption of COVID, was brand new, on the monorail loop, AND does not have the same resale restrictions. As a recent purchase of RIV points, when I heard that during our RIV tour, I was like, oh, you better march me right over to PIT because why would I buy into a resort with restrictions when I can buy one without them. Of course, the more I considered the long-term, I came to my senses and bought where I see myself wanting to stay more often.

Imagine if RIV had launched with the same resale restrictions as PIT (i.e., just future resorts) and without the disruption of COVID. I think we'd be looking at a very different sales history. How much is attributable to COVID vs. the resale restrictions? Hard to tell. It would be interesting if you run an experiment where COVID never happened - if the sales were similarly just as slow, one could see a world in which DVC suddenly started questioning resale restrictions - but, here we are. Where is my crystal ball? Haha.

Did you split your contract into smaller contracts? Restrictions def have been on my mind as a "do not buy this resort when there is a popular, unrestricted monorail resort for sale." But I am with you that the direct contract should be buy where you want to stay more.

I posted in another thread that I think small riv contracts have a chance to be really sought after because of the restrictions. Owners may want to supplement their points without committing to a larger contract where they can only stay at Riviera and its solely to add to their current Riviera stays for a night or two or bigger rooms. On the flip side, they could also worry that a smaller contract means less options for room types when rooms that command less points go first, (that would be a concern for me) but I dont think most people think that deep

I also dont see the maint fees here going up too much at Riv. I think if Riv didnt have restrictions it'd be up there in pricing with vgf and Poly only because while those are monorail resorts, riv is a skyliner resort with access to two theme parks. But here we are.

 

[Girlstar30]

Well slow sales is partially the fault of DVC. They announced VGF2 and Poly Island Tower. If they didn’t do these two resorts as soon it would have been sold out by now. DVC had a fire sale on VGF2 to get it sold out before Poly Isl. Tower opened. I predict DVC will have RIV sold out before LL opens.

I feel the same