When will '09 dates be released?

[Andrew DEREK UK]

WOW - lots of research going on - I guess DCL has learned the power of DIS and are keeping security REALLY tight on their info this time!

Yes A disser found out about the return to LA before it was announced and another picked up on Villafrance and the Med trips early.

Often information then disappears quickly again, with so much information available on the INTERNET someone will find something. But you better be fast and save it.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

"Melbourne Austrialia Well maybe."


Dont tease me....

The Magic coming in under Sydney harbour Bridge!!! That would be a sight.

 

[Soccermom-Cheri]

There are only a certain number of "dockings" allowed in Alaska (per some Dept of the Interior - National Parks document I found digging in the net), I think. And, if this is the case, wouldn't another ship have to drop out before DCL could get in? and if someone could determine if there was a ship that wasn't coming back ...

 

[JLDSMD]

There are only a certain number of "dockings" allowed in Alaska (per some Dept of the Interior - National Parks document I found digging in the net), I think. And, if this is the case, wouldn't another ship have to drop out before DCL could get in? and if someone could determine if there was a ship that wasn't coming back ...

If the ports are under the control of the Government, couldn't a person do an "open records" request and see which ships are coming in or bidding to come in? Would that hold true for any government run port?

 

[kaseyC]

There are only a certain number of "dockings" allowed in Alaska (per some Dept of the Interior - National Parks document I found digging in the net), I think. And, if this is the case, wouldn't another ship have to drop out before DCL could get in? and if someone could determine if there was a ship that wasn't coming back ...

IIRC, it is not a limit on the number of dockings in the state of Alaska itself. The Dept. of Interior/NPS only allows a limited number of ships permits to sail Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve. Princess and Holland America Cruise lines have agreements with the NPS that gave them the majority of the permits to sail Glacier Bay. Starting in the 2007 season, the NPS raised the limit on the number of ships allowed to sail Glacier Bay. So it gives more cruiselines a chance to sail Glacier Bay - which is spectacular!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

There are only a certain number of "dockings" allowed in Alaska (per some Dept of the Interior - National Parks document I found digging in the net), I think. And, if this is the case, wouldn't another ship have to drop out before DCL could get in? and if someone could determine if there was a ship that wasn't coming back ...

If the ports are under the control of the Government, couldn't a person do an "open records" request and see which ships are coming in or bidding to come in? Would that hold true for any government run port?

IIRC, it is not a limit on the number of dockings in the state of Alaska itself. The Dept. of Interior/NPS only allows a limited number of ships permits to sail Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve. Princess and Holland America Cruise lines have agreements with the NPS that gave them the majority of the permits to sail Glacier Bay. Starting in the 2007 season, the NPS raised the limit on the number of ships allowed to sail Glacier Bay. So it gives more cruiselines a chance to sail Glacier Bay - which is spectacular!

Interesting stuff, wouldnt they favour regular cruise lines that come every year rather than a one off year?

 

[kaseyC]

Interesting stuff, wouldnt they favour regular cruise lines that come every year rather than a one off year?

I guess the same could have been said about the Magic in the Med last summer. Disney still found a way to make it happen.

 

[DCL Repeaters]

I've thoroughly enjoyed this thread with everyone's thoughts, but the Magic could very well be doing the standard 7 day eastern and western itineraries (maybe with some tweaking of the ports of call). I was told by the booking agent on the Wonder in Oct. that "because the Magic is/was away for 2 summers in a row, the ship would be staying closer to home." I know this would be a dissapointment for some, but it's a possibility.

 

[CRSNDSNY]

I've thoroughly enjoyed this thread with everyone's thoughts, but the Magic could very well be doing the standard 7 day eastern and western itineraries (maybe with some tweaking of the ports of call). I was told by the booking agent on the Wonder in Oct. that "because the Magic is/was away for 2 summers in a row, the ship would be staying closer to home." I know this would be a dissapointment for some, but it's a possibility.

That would make me (and I'm sure several others) very very happy!!!

 

[disnutt]

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[Andrew DEREK UK]

I've thoroughly enjoyed this thread with everyone's thoughts, but the Magic could very well be doing the standard 7 day eastern and western itineraries (maybe with some tweaking of the ports of call). I was told by the booking agent on the Wonder in Oct. that "because the Magic is/was away for 2 summers in a row, the ship would be staying closer to home." I know this would be a disappointment for some, but it's a possibility.

Its always a possibility, in 2006 they did some alternative Westerns with a double dip at CC, and they are doing a few more of those.

You would however think with two new ships coming along making four in total they would be bold and push out now to get a foothold in places, not contract back to the standard stuff.

The Dispodast reported a possible bold move, Europe and the Baltic or Alaska is bold, but just doing the 7 night trips, would be a disappointment for many repeat cruisers at this time.

That would make me (and I'm sure several others) very very happy!!!

Many would be pleased though!

 

[Soccermom-Cheri]

IIRC, it is not a limit on the number of dockings in the state of Alaska itself. The Dept. of Interior/NPS only allows a limited number of ships permits to sail Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve. Princess and Holland America Cruise lines have agreements with the NPS that gave them the majority of the permits to sail Glacier Bay. Starting in the 2007 season, the NPS raised the limit on the number of ships allowed to sail Glacier Bay. So it gives more cruiselines a chance to sail Glacier Bay - which is spectacular!

I've been trying to find a list of granted permits but (as with anything governmental) it's a maze going thru their sites.

Also, I keep on the look out for "new" names. Disney has been known to secure things under not-so-obvious monikers before. (I wonder if Tom McAplin or Jay Rasulo posts on the DIS )

 

[kaseyC]

I've been trying to find a list of granted permits but (as with anything governmental) it's a maze going thru their sites.

I've been trying that too. I figured that EVEN Disney couldn't keep the Federal Government quiet. You are absolutely right, it is a mess trying to get through that site. Federal documents are loooong!! Would it be asking too much to have a list of cruiselines that applied for permits in 2009?!!?

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

I've been trying to find a list of granted permits but (as with anything governmental) it's a maze going thru their sites.

Also, I keep on the look out for "new" names. Disney has been known to secure things under not-so-obvious monikers before. (I wonder if Tom McAplin or Jay Rasulo posts on the DIS )

They have used 'The Magicial Cruise company'

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

I've been trying that too. I figured that EVEN Disney couldn't keep the Federal Government quiet. You are absolutely right, it is a mess trying to get through that site. Federal documents are loooong!! Would it be asking too much to have a list of cruiselines that applied for permits in 2009?!!?

Your very hard owrking on this! Good luck

 

[Ski-and-Sea]

You would however think with two new ships coming along making four in total they would be bold and push out now to get a foothold in places, not contract back to the standard stuff.

Maybe the group that arranges the special sailings are too busy figuring out what to do with two new ships for 52 weeks a year that they don't have time to plan on what the Magic will do for just one summer.

Maybe they need a break after planning the Med and CA cruises.

Planning something "closer to home" might be easier to do for 2009.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

Maybe the group that arranges the special sailings are too busy figuring out what to do with two new ships for 52 weeks a year that they don't have time to plan on what the Magic will do for just one summer.

Maybe they need a break after planning the Med and CA cruises.

Planning something "closer to home" might be easier to do for 2009.

Possible, We keep hearing this closer to home, but that doesn't mean exactly the same as usual. I know if I had two new ships coming and they need to be filled up and new ports to cal at I would be doing feasibility tests now and getting my foothold in new markets.

Thoose busy people at DCL working 52 weeks a year need a holiday, maybe i Will suggest a Med cruise?

 

[grumpymakesmehappy]

They have used 'The Magicial Cruise company'

And what a "magical" cruise company DCL is!!!!

 

[Hygiene99]

They have used 'The Magicial Cruise company'

D/B/A Disney Cruise Line.

I think that is the formal name of the Company!
I believe it is in the Documents!
4 pages from the rear!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

D/B/A Disney Cruise Line.

I think that is the formal name of the Company!
I believe it is in the Documents!
4 pages from the rear!

Thats the one they used for booking LA in 08 and a disser found the documents.