When to use Overdrive?

DwarfMaster

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OK ~ I'm almost embarrased to ask since I've had my car for quite awhile now....but with the price of gas skyrocketing, I want to make sure I'm getting the most for my $$$$.

I have a 2003 Taurus with Drive and Overdrive. I know my car sounds better in overdrive when I'm going 65 down the freeway....but what about when I get off the freeway ~ should I switch back to drive? What about stop&go traffic? Is it bad to switch back & forth? Does it use more gas one way or another?

It just seems like my car is a major gas-hog and I'm trying to improve my mileage.
 
I've always wondered the same thing. I have a '04 Taurus and I always drive in overdrive. :blush: Is that a bad thing?
 
What is OD? I have that too on my car. Mazda Protege' 2002
 
Always use overdrive.

Unless..

you are going up a long steep hill and the transmission is constantly shifting in and out of overdrive (on it's own). This is called "hunting". It's probably listed in your manual. Usually "hunting" is bad for the transmission.

Occasionally shifting in and out of overdrive is ok but not for long periods of time.

You will use more gas not using overdrive on those long hills but it's cheaper than paying for transmission work.

Another time not to use overdrive is when you're towing something like a camper or utility trailer IF the transmission is constantly switching in and out of overdrive (even if you are on flat roads).
 

I remember the car our school used for driver's ed had overdrive, and we always used it for both city and highway driving, I remember the instructor said it got better gas milage that way!

Hey, what a memory! Driver's ed was 12 years ago!
 
*Fantasia* said:
What is OD? I have that too on my car. Mazda Protege' 2002


Overdrive is just another name for the 4th (or in some cars 5th or 6th) gear and it's designed to save gas.

Some cars have a button to engage or disengage it. Some cars have a "OD" selection on the shifter. Some cars don't have any way to manually disengage the overdrive. Some cars show "D" and then 3 , 2 , 1 on the shifter.

It's all designed to confuse you.
 
Charade said:
Always use overdrive.

Unless..

you are going up a long steep hill and the transmission is constantly shifting in and out of overdrive (on it's own). This is called "hunting". It's probably listed in your manual. Usually "hunting" is bad for the transmission.

Occasionally shifting in and out of overdrive is ok but not for long periods of time.

You will use more gas not using overdrive on those long hills but it's cheaper than paying for transmission work.

Another time not to use overdrive is when you're towing something like a camper or utility trailer IF the transmission is constantly switching in and out of overdrive (even if you are on flat roads).


Well this explains why I get such horrible gas mileage....I hardly ever use it! :blush:

My trip to work has some pretty steep hills....however I'm usually doing about 50-55 ~ so it should still be OK in OD right?

Well ~ I just filled up my tank this morning (@ $2.14/gallon)...I'm going to switch to Overdrive and keep track of my mileage. We'll see how much difference this makes. I usually get like 17mpg ~ which I think is HORRIBLE for a newer car.
 
What kind of car do you have?

What does the shifter say? (P R N D 3 2 1)?
 
2003 Ford Taurus

I think it says P R N OD D 1
 
DwarfMaster said:
2003 Ford Taurus

I think it says P R N OD D 1

What that means is OD = 4th gear (best gas mileage) and D = 3rd gear.

If your car has a tachometer (shows engine speed (RPMs)), look at the difference between OD and D. You always want that to stay as low as possible at higher speeds to get the best gas mileage.

I'd bet you would get at least in the mid 20's if you use OD.
 
Thanks Charade

My husband would be soooo embarrassed to know I've had this car for nearly 2 years and had no idea how to drive it!
 
Charade said:
Always use overdrive.

Unless..

you are going up a long steep hill and the transmission is constantly shifting in and out of overdrive (on it's own). This is called "hunting". It's probably listed in your manual. Usually "hunting" is bad for the transmission.

Occasionally shifting in and out of overdrive is ok but not for long periods of time.

You will use more gas not using overdrive on those long hills but it's cheaper than paying for transmission work.

Another time not to use overdrive is when you're towing something like a camper or utility trailer IF the transmission is constantly switching in and out of overdrive (even if you are on flat roads).

Not true

If your driving in the city- your cars never gonna hit 4th gear or 5th or in the case of my Duramax/Allison- 6th gear.....so if your in D or OD your still in the same gear of the transmission....

It has nothing to do with gas mileage- it has to do with what gear your transmission is allowed to shift up to. If your in 1st- it will never hit 2nd, if your in 2nd it'll never hit 3rd and so on and so forth.

If your in D and you have a 4 speed automatic- with OD...your car will never hit 4th..so when your on the highway- your actually in 3rd- probably running at a much higher rmp- which will lower your mpg, but the OD was not designed for that reason, and continually running it it is not going to change your gas mileage.

Some trucks- like the last body style Chevy pickups (not the 99-05 models, but the 89-98 ones)- had problems with the transmissions if you ran in overdrive in city traffic. the transmission would hunt for the correct gear, continuously shifting, leading to wear in the gears, and eventually transmission repairs and overhauls.

Most modern cars- have enough computers in them to know what gear to be in, and when it needs it, however if you keep it in D during city driving- and only upshift to OD when your going say- 45 and faster, your not going to use any more gas than when your in OD for the entire trip.

Also- you dont want to always stay at the lowest possible rpm, you wont get the best gas mileage that way...its only when your traveling at a continuous speed that rpms affect gas mileage. Manually shifting an auto transmission will NOT change your gas mileage...and realistically- if the lowest rpm was really the BEST we'd never have 1, 2 or 3rd cause 4th will always be the lowest rpm if you only have 4 gears..with my diesel 6th will always be lowest- doesnt mean I'm getting the best mileage outta that tank of fuel.

Brandy
 
I take mine out of Overdrive when I'm driving in the snow.
 
mudnuri said:
If your driving in the city- your cars never gonna hit 4th gear or 5th or in the case of my Duramax/Allison- 6th gear.....so if your in D or OD your still in the same gear of the transmission....

This is true. But most automatic transmissions will hit 3rd or 4th (OD) at about 40-45 (mine does). If I never break 20mph, then it probably doesn't hit 4th.

It has nothing to do with gas mileage- it has to do with what gear your transmission is allowed to shift up to. If your in 1st- it will never hit 2nd, if your in 2nd it'll never hit 3rd and so on and so forth.

huh?

Are you talking about a manual transmission or automatic? Sound like an manual.



If your in D and you have a 4 speed automatic- with OD...your car will never hit 4th..so when your on the highway- your actually in 3rd- probably running at a much higher rpm- which will lower your mpg,
Correct. I thought that's what I said.

but the OD was not designed for that reason, and continually running it it is not going to change your gas mileage.

Yes it was and yes it will.



Some trucks- like the last body style Chevy pickups (not the 99-05 models, but the 89-98 ones)- had problems with the transmissions if you ran in overdrive in city traffic. the transmission would hunt for the correct gear, continuously shifting, leading to wear in the gears, and eventually transmission repairs and overhauls.

I already said that hunting is not good for an automatic tranny.

Most modern cars- have enough computers in them to know what gear to be in, and when it needs it, however if you keep it in D during city driving- and only upshift to OD when your going say- 45 and faster, your not going to use any more gas than when your in OD for the entire trip.

My 2001 Ford Escape must have a stupid program that runs the tranny because I feel I can shift it more effectively (maybe not optimally for better gas mileage) than it does on it's own.

And I agree. If you never reach the trigger speed for OD, then it will stay in D (usually 3rd). But you don't need to keep it in D then have to remember to put it in OD if you go above the trigger speed. However, in addition to OD being 4th gear, most auto transmission lock up the torque converter which is supposed to help with gas mileage. Most automatic transmissions only lock up the TC in 4th (or OD). My Ford Escape locks up the TC in 3rd (in addition to 4th). I find this incredibly annoying.

Also- you dont want to always stay at the lowest possible rpm, you wont get the best gas mileage that way...its only when your traveling at a continuous speed that rpms affect gas mileage.

True. That's what I meant. If you're cruising along at 65, you want to be at 2000 rpms not 3000rpms (or whatever your shift points are).

Manually shifting an auto transmission will NOT change your gas mileage...and realistically- if the lowest rpm was really the BEST we'd never have 1, 2 or 3rd cause 4th will always be the lowest rpm if you only have 4 gears..with my diesel 6th will always be lowest- doesnt mean I'm getting the best mileage outta that tank of fuel.

Brandy

Nobody would want a car with just one speed. But I've driven cars with a 2 speed automatics (yes 2 speed!). It didn't shift into high gear until about 40 - 50. Even with two speeds, it wasn't a slug (only off the line).

The Ford 500 (new for 2005 or 06) has a CVT tranmission. It's an automatic that has no gears (it shifts continuously).
 
SillyMe said:
I take mine out of Overdrive when I'm driving in the snow.


That makes no sense to me. Why do you do that?
 
It seems to slow my truck down a bit. You gotta realize I'm mechanically challenged and I'm terrified to drive in the snow and ice. Am I not supposed to do that?
 
huh?

Are you talking about a manual transmission or automatic? Sound like an manual

Talking about an automatic. If your select 1st it wont **** to 2nd if you select 2nd it wont shift to 4th...that is the only thing OD lets it do- is run through ALL of the gears when needed.

Yes it was and yes it will.

it will ONLY effect the mpg if your doing highway driving..thats the point I'm trying to make...if I run an entire tank out around town- never going faster than 35, I'm NEVER going into any gear higher than 3rd...which means- if had it in D or OD..it wont matter.......same mpg even with shift indicator in D

The point is- there is a place for OD where its necessary for your engine, and thats on the highway to keept he rpms lower than if it was in D....its not about the gas mileage.......unless, of course your salesman told you "thats why we put OD in our cars"....not saying yours did, but I've heard that line 900000000000 times about different features....

Brandy
 
SillyMe said:
It seems to slow my truck down a bit. You gotta realize I'm mechanically challenged and I'm terrified to drive in the snow and ice. Am I not supposed to do that?

The only time I fiddle with the gears in the snow is to help slow me down by putting it into the next lower gear or helping me get going in the snow by putting the transmission in to "2" before starting out. Most transmissions will start out on "2". This will cause less spinning of the wheels. Then I make sure that I put it it to D once I've stopped or get going.
 
Interesting thread. I've been wondering about it myself. There was a thread on here a couple weeks about OD. Got me wondering. I have a button to turn it on or off. Now I know why in the past I'd try to pass a car and it took forever, if I was lucky enough to not have someone zip in the space I had any way. :rolleyes: Only recently I've started turning OD off when I'm passing on the highway. Wow! Does it zip along! :teeth: Definitely an improvement. But that's the only time I turn it off.
 












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