When they say going to Disney is too expensive…

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think 7 days is the sweet spot. I did the 14 day one once

It took me one cruise (it was on a different cruise line than DCL) to realize that 7 days is actually too little time for me, before I knew it the cruise was over. We just did a 12 day one back in the spring and I liked that a lot better. It had 2 sea days which was fine by me but I don't want too many sea days. I'm there to explore where I'm going at my stage in life.

So for me a range of 10-15 days would be the sweet spot until we get to the next stage of our lives where I feel we'll want longer than that cruises. The only limiting factor is the location as we vacation to Europe, Japan, etc not something closer so the transit time eats into how long we can realistically be away from home. That 12-day cruise we were gone from our house 18 days (though it ended up being 20 days due to an illness that kept us in JFK for longer before getting home)

 

[Girlstar30]

It took me one cruise (it was on a different cruise line than DCL) to realize that 7 days is actually too little time for me, before I knew it the cruise was over. We just did a 12 day one back in the spring and I liked that a lot better. It had 2 sea days which was fine by me but I don't want too many sea days. I'm there to explore where I'm going at my stage in life.

So for me a range of 10-15 days would be the sweet spot until we get to the next stage of our lives where I feel we'll want longer than that cruises. The only limiting factor is the location as we vacation to Europe, Japan, etc not something closer so the transit time eats into how long we can realistically be away from home. That 12-day cruise we were gone from our house 18 days (though it ended up being 20 days due to an illness that kept us in JFK for longer before getting home)

I agree 14 days is the real sweet spot for me but thats quite the jump from her going from 3 to 14 days so I just thought 7 would be the ideal here

i booked a 4 night once on the dream and it got extended to 6 days due to hurricane Dorian and I was sooo happy for the extra time! Ive never been on a DCL cruise where I wanted to leave, ive had wdw and dlr trips on the other hand where ive said its time to go

We always exit on every port and have something planned that takes all day so I do appreciate the longer cruises with sea days in between!

 

[VGCgroupie]

Im guessing you went to our favorite dca dining spot, cocina Cucamonga! The quesabirria tacos are

Yes ! That place is amazing

 

[VGCgroupie]

I agree 14 days is the real sweet spot for me but thats quite the jump from her going from 3 to 14 days so I just thought 7 would be the ideal here

i booked a 4 night once on the dream and it got extended to 6 days due to hurricane Dorian and I was sooo happy for the extra time! Ive never been on a DCL cruise where I wanted to leave, ive had wdw and dlr trips on the other hand where ive said its time to go

We always exit on every port and have something planned that takes all day so I do appreciate the longer cruises with sea days in between!

They have a different cruise that leaves the same day we originally planned and just sails 2 days more. We were letting our AP lapse and only doing resort stuff for those 2 days when we got back so it actually works out perfectly. Wish vs Fantasy. I’m reading that my kid would probably like the wish more.

 

[LoveDaisy]

As someone who will only attend shows/concerts with GOOD seats, I can tell you a day at Disney is less expensive. I suspect the people who say Disney is too expensive sit in nosebleed section IF they attend shows/concerts.

Totally agree! I’m heading to NYC next week to see music at MSG. It’s better DH doesn’t know what I’m paying

Parking car my share $100 (split by 3)
Hotel (2 nights) my share $650 (split by 3)
Tickets $350
Eating in NYC: $500 (includes all the food everyone wants me to bring home. Lots of bagels lol)
Misc (shopping, taxis, drinks etc) $500

Seeing 50 of my friends to celebrate 30 years of seeing music together. Priceless!

 

[Girlstar30]

This is why I don't compare things that don't make sense to compare.

I know the OP has quite a lot of DVC contracts, if you're going to compare the costs you spend as a day at Disney your point is completely off if you don't talk about the investment in those DVC contracts. It would take a lot of Nutcracker events to make up the difference. I'm sure I'd get push back of "well that's not the point" but if you're going to frame it as when people talk about how Disney is expensive the tens of thousands of dollars investment should dang well be part of that

But for the grandeur point many people take events/outings as a sparing thing meaning they do it as a treat, they do it once maybe twice a year (especially if we're talking about families with kids).

For the holidays specifically we just did a local arboretum for their evening holiday walk through, the zoo during the day and the evening holiday walk through and the state museum for less than the cost of 1 person's airfare to Orlando. That includes food at each place. The only caveat being that the state museum was free until the end of the year due to reopening after a little more than 3 years refurb. And if I look at it a different way the cost of all of it for 2 people was less than 1 day's park admission to MK for 1 person.

There's an "investment" in the dvc contract for sure, but we can also sell those points for $$$, twice as much as our annual dues. Can't do that with other things. The investment isnt for nothing.

Many times, people even get more money back when they sell than they paid (although not a guarantee) So to use the investment as the reason why you cant compare because she paid so much more, you also have to see the positives of the investment too. Its guaranteeing us a cheaper rate for years to come. For us it has pretty much been an insurance policy too when things have gone awry.

If there's an issue with your stay you can get $$ back. That should be factored to make dvc even more favorable. We're not just throwing our money away on a one time event and if there's an issue, dvc takes accountability. We were just refunded a night at rack rate (over $1000 for a one bedroom!) Because what happened was completely unacceptable. Id like to ask another outing for my ticket money back over 1 grand and see what happens

Disney has a lot of options for every budget type. Value hotels, quick service, etc. Then you get your dvc discounts and target discounts. And we all get to enjoy the same theme park.

I think she has a great point that it can end up being cheaper than one time events multiple times a year for weeks and weeks (because thats what we get with dvc)

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

There's an "investment" in the dvc contract for sure, but we can also sell those points for $$$, twice as much as our annual dues. Can't do that with other things. The investment isnt for nothing.

Many times, people even get more money back when they sell than they paid (although not a guarantee) So to use the investment as the reason why you cant compare because she paid so much more, you also have to see the positives of the investment too. Its guaranteeing us a cheaper rate for years to come. For us it has pretty much been an insurance policy too when things have gone awry.

If there's an issue with your stay you can get $$ back. That should be factored to make dvc even more favorable. We're not just throwing our money away on a one time event and if there's an issue, dvc takes accountability. We were just refunded a night at rack rate (over $1000 for a one bedroom!) Because what happened was completely unacceptable. Id like to ask another outing for my ticket money back over 1 grand and see what happens

Disney has a lot of options for every budget type. Value hotels, quick service, etc. Then you get your dvc discounts and target discounts. And we all get to enjoy the same theme park.

I think she has a great point that it can end up being cheaper than one time events multiple times a year for weeks and weeks (because thats what we get with dvc)

I'm not in it to actually debate should someone buy or not buy DVC but it's incredibly "got your blinders on" to act like someone's day at Disney is less expensive than a day at the Nutcracker when that day at Disney was with a high financial cost. Those who are staying on cash at a hotel is where the comparison should be made but I also don't think it's right to compare things that aren't the same. To ignore the tens of thousands (especially for the OP who owns copious amounts of points) spent for future travel at the same time as talking about costs for an event at home is just an effort to (whether playfully or not) make someone feel better about their investment which is totally fine but becomes disingenious when it's at the expense at others (namely talking about how "when they say going to Disney is too expensive"...well it is for people who don't have the kind of cash to get DVC never mind many people in general. When someone can't talk about the cost of their contracts in the conversation it's extremely telling.

Like the OP told someone else who dared to comment on this thread with a different viewpoint, this is a DVC thread so talking about value hotels doesn't matter, there's no DVC there. I get it the OP wants to go for "join me in on my DVC love" and that's fine but you know be honest too here, it actually makes for a more open conversation about costs when that's the point of the topic.

 

[Girlstar30]

I'm not in it to actually debate should someone buy or not buy DVC but it's incredibly "got your blinders on" to act like someone's day at Disney is less expensive than a day at the Nutcracker when that day at Disney was with a high financial cost. Those who are staying on cash at a hotel is where the comparison should be made but I also don't think it's right to compare things that aren't the same. To ignore the tens of thousands (especially for the OP who owns copious amounts of points) spent for future travel at the same time as talking about costs for an event at home is just an effort to (whether playfully or not) make someone feel better about their investment which is totally fine but becomes disingenious when it's at the expense at others (namely talking about how "when they say going to Disney is too expensive"...well it is for people who don't have the kind of cash to get DVC never mind many people in general. When someone can't talk about the cost of their contracts in the conversation it's extremely telling.

Like the OP told someone else who dared to comment on this thread with a different viewpoint, this is a DVC thread so talking about value hotels doesn't matter, there's no DVC there. I get it the OP wants to go for "join me in on my DVC love" and that's fine but you know be honest too here, it actually makes for a more open conversation about costs when that's the point of the topic.

Well she never said all of her dvc contracts were cheaper than a day at the Nutcracker, she just said that a DAY at Disney was cheaper than her Nutcracker outing and yes it probably was!

She's not telling people to buy a bunch of dvc contracts like she did and now everything is cheaper And i dont know why shes not allowed to comment on that just because she has lots of points.

She's comparing a night out at the Nutcracker vs one day at Disney so how is it not fair and why is it being pointed out that she has all these points and has blinders on to the average person. Many people go to Disney for a day that cant afford DVC. She didnt say anything about owning DVC or telling people to buy because shes saving all this money on DVC... DVC wasnt even mentioned by her.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I'm not in it to actually debate should someone buy or not buy DVC but it's incredibly "got your blinders on" to act like someone's day at Disney is less expensive than a day at the Nutcracker when that day at Disney was with a high financial cost. Those who are staying on cash at a hotel is where the comparison should be made but I also don't think it's right to compare things that aren't the same. To ignore the tens of thousands (especially for the OP who owns copious amounts of points) spent for future travel at the same time as talking about costs for an event at home is just an effort to (whether playfully or not) make someone feel better about their investment which is totally fine but becomes disingenious when it's at the expense at others (namely talking about how "when they say going to Disney is too expensive"...well it is for people who don't have the kind of cash to get DVC never mind many people in general. When someone can't talk about the cost of their contracts in the conversation it's extremely telling.

Like the OP told someone else who dared to comment on this thread with a different viewpoint, this is a DVC thread so talking about value hotels doesn't matter, there's no DVC there. I get it the OP wants to go for "join me in on my DVC love" and that's fine but you know be honest too here, it actually makes for a more open conversation about costs when that's the point of the topic.

I posted on the DVC boards. If you don’t own DVC why are you even inserting yourself into this conversation?

This was a lighthearted post about how people always complain that Disney is expensive. Everything can be expensive. Disney just tends to get a lot of the online flack anytime a price is raised.

I don’t have blinders on to the average person. Did you know the AVERAGE person can rent points and save lots of money over paying for a room with Disney?

Lastly, you know absolutely nothing about me or my financial situation, my upbringing, where I currently live, where I used to live or anything about me. If you did, you wouldn’t be coming at me in this manner.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I also say that DCL is a better deal than other cruise lines because just about everything is included!

That one needs more context. Many people find themselves surprised at what other lines are like when they start to do more digging. The line we do isn't really for kids but has more included than DCL and based on what I've seen can certainly cost less (especially in the European market where DCL isn't competitive). Our 12 cruise in the wester med in the spring was $6K less than a comparable DCL one for 2 people and had far more included than DCL, really includes everything (no tipping is expected or required, specialty dining doesn't cost extra, alcohol and drinks included, etc).

Well she never said all of her dvc contracts were cheaper than a day at the Nutcracker, she just said that a DAY at Disney was cheaper than her Nutcracker outing and yes it probably was!

She's not telling people to buy a bunch of dvc contracts like she did and now everything is cheaper And i dont know why shes not allowed to comment on that just because she has lots of points.

She's comparing a night out at the Nutcracker vs one day at Disney so how is it not fair and why is it being pointed out that she has all these points and has blinders on to the average person. Many people go to Disney for a day.

Really, you don't have to go to bat for the OP so hard Regardless of what someone has, does factor into the cost of one's Disney trip. It'd be like saying if you needed to buy a membership to the arts building to see the Nutcracker then that cost of the membership should be included in the costs.

What are you talking about with respects to saying why she's not allow to comment on that, nothing I said seems to be related to that comment. The amount of points is something I pointed out because it's someone who has the means to purchase a lot of it at the same time as talking about how others talk about how expensive Disney is. Well to many people they don't have the means to purchase DVC and it really is expensive to them. A night out at the Nutcracker may be what they can afford and in relation to my original comment on it it would take a lot of those Nutcracker nights to equal a DVC contract. One singular night out for X doesn't compare in terms of costs to a DVC contract.

If someone was paying cash for their hotel stay at Disney and didn't include any discounts due to a DVC membership, etc, then that really is a comparison of costs even if the outings are IMO things not to compare (a theme park trip and a concert but that's a personal preference).

 

[VGCgroupie]

I'm not in it to actually debate should someone buy or not buy DVC but it's incredibly "got your blinders on" to act like someone's day at Disney is less expensive than a day at the Nutcracker when that day at Disney was with a high financial cost. Those who are staying on cash at a hotel is where the comparison should be made but I also don't think it's right to compare things that aren't the same. To ignore the tens of thousands (especially for the OP who owns copious amounts of points) spent for future travel at the same time as talking about costs for an event at home is just an effort to (whether playfully or not) make someone feel better about their investment which is totally fine but becomes disingenious when it's at the expense at others (namely talking about how "when they say going to Disney is too expensive"...well it is for people who don't have the kind of cash to get DVC never mind many people in general. When someone can't talk about the cost of their contracts in the conversation it's extremely telling.

Like the OP told someone else who dared to comment on this thread with a different viewpoint, this is a DVC thread so talking about value hotels doesn't matter, there's no DVC there. I get it the OP wants to go for "join me in on my DVC love" and that's fine but you know be honest too here, it actually makes for a more open conversation about costs when that's the point of the topic.

I’m just now seeing all of these ridiculous posts of yours.

Are you now going to come after people who have a local annual pass and don’t need to rent a room and their annual pass covers them for a majority of the year to go to Disney whenever they want and all they have to do is pay for food?

Yeah, I think their day out at Disney is also cheaper than a day out at the nutcracker.

Like give me a break, You came in here, trying to make me look petty, and you are the one that looks petty

 

[VGCgroupie]

Well she never said all of her dvc contracts were cheaper than a day at the Nutcracker, she just said that a DAY at Disney was cheaper than her Nutcracker outing and yes it probably was!

She's not telling people to buy a bunch of dvc contracts like she did and now everything is cheaper And i dont know why shes not allowed to comment on that just because she has lots of points.

She's comparing a night out at the Nutcracker vs one day at Disney so how is it not fair and why is it being pointed out that she has all these points and has blinders on to the average person. Many people go to Disney for a day that cant afford DVC. She didnt say anything about owning DVC or telling people to buy because shes saving all this money on DVC... DVC wasnt even mentioned by her.

This is in the DVC section of the boards. Why would I need to point that out? I was speaking to the people that I speak to on these sections of the boards on a daily basis . Also, at the bottom of every single post I make it clearly shows that I own DVC I write it in black-and-white and I put photos for those of you that it works better for.

 

[Girlstar30]

That one needs more context. Many people find themselves surprised at what other lines are like when they start to do more digging. The line we do isn't really for kids but has more included than DCL and based on what I've seen can certainly cost less (especially in the European market where DCL isn't competitive). Our 12 cruise in the wester med in the spring was $6K less than a comparable DCL one for 2 people and had far more included than DCL, really includes everything (no tipping is expected or required, specialty dining doesn't cost extra, alcohol and drinks included, etc).


Really, you don't have to go to bat for the OP so hard Regardless of what someone has, does factor into the cost of one's Disney trip. It'd be like saying if you needed to buy a membership to the arts building to see the Nutcracker then that cost of the membership should be included in the costs.

What are you talking about with respects to saying why she's not allow to comment on that, nothing I said seems to be related to that comment. The amount of points is something I pointed out because it's someone who has the means to purchase a lot of it at the same time as talking about how others talk about how expensive Disney is. Well to many people they don't have the means to purchase DVC and it really is expensive to them. A night out at the Nutcracker may be what they can afford and in relation to my original comment on it it would take a lot of those Nutcracker nights to equal a DVC contract. One singular night out for X doesn't compare in terms of costs to a DVC contract.

If someone was paying cash for their hotel stay at Disney and didn't include any discounts due to a DVC membership, etc, then that really is a comparison of costs even if the outings are IMO things not to compare (a theme park trip and a concert but that's a personal preference).

She didnt even say anything about dvc so everything you are saying is irrelevant.

"Going to bat for her so hard" because Im agreeing with her and I think its messed up that youre trying to make her seem like this out of touch rich person that cant comment on the cost of Disney because of how many points she has.

I have accumulated almost 600 points in a year and I am nowhere near rich, we are sacrificing and working our *** off for this, will I not be allowed to comment on the cost of Disney again after I have as many points as her?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I posted on the DVC boards. If you don’t own DVC why are you even inserting yourself into this conversation?

This was a lighthearted post about how people always complain that Disney is expensive. Everything can be expensive. Disney just tends to get a lot of the online flack anytime a price is raised.

I don’t have blinders on to the average person. Did you know the AVERAGE person can rent points and save lots of money over paying for a room with Disney?

Lastly, you know absolutely nothing about me or my financial situation, my upbringing, where I currently live, where I used to live or anything about me. If you did, you wouldn’t be coming at me in this manner.

Certainly it's fine to not agree with someone's take but don't shoo people away because they have a differing opinion, not light hearted at all. Just ignore them (and me now as well if you'd like). Let the conversation flow to another thing (it will )

You're absolutely right I have no idea of your background and that has no bearing on this. I only know of your situation regarding your contracts because you've openly talked about getting more and more including an entire thread dedicated to where you're buying next.

Everyone comes from different walks of life which is even a better reason to not scoff at people who say Disney is expensive, even in an attempt to jest. Sometimes that event that you did for the Nutcracker could be the only even those people could afford for the year for their family, worth keeping in mind that we all have things that others don't. I've been very fortunate to travel a lot internationally in the last several years and I also remember how it felt to have $13 to my name and no way of knowing if I could even have enough gas to get to a job interview. But when I talk about my international travel I also talk about how X flight was paid for by points (Chase transferred) or how we use points for hotel stays, on our UK trip we bought a Welsh heritage membership which saved X amount of pounds, etc. Because those travels are possible due to those things I won't not talk about them when I'm talking about what costs are.

This is in the DVC section of the boards. Why would I need to point that out? I was speaking to the people that I speak to on these sections of the boards on a daily basis . Also, at the bottom of every single post I make it clearly shows that I own DVC I write it in black-and-white and I put photos for those of you that it works better for.

To be clear you owning DVC is never a problem, I only pointed out that the investment costs IF you're talking about comparing costs of some other activity you did should be included which is what you were talking about in part. You mentioned value and that is subjective not solely tied to costs. Many of us would probably find more value out at Disney for a day than an evening at the Nutcracker.

I’m just now seeing all of these ridiculous posts of yours.

Are you now going to come after people who have a local annual pass and don’t need to rent a room and their annual pass covers them for a majority of the year to go to Disney whenever they want and all they have to do is pay for food?

Yeah, I think their day out at Disney is also cheaper than a day out at the nutcracker.

Like give me a break, You came in here, trying to make me look petty, and you are the one that looks petty

With all due respect I haven't personally attacked you I may think you need to talk about DVC contracts but I've not personally named called you and yet you have. And you told another poster much the same vibe. It's okay to not like what I say, hey that's fine, but name calling takes it to another level, I've got thick skin here so you're not offending me but yeah.

 

[CarolynFH]

I was literally watching cruise videos just now and I’m so excited for our first cruise!! It’s a 3 day and I’m about to call the husband and try to talk him into letting we switch to a 5 day. We are before final payment so I think I can

Let me add to the chorus saying you should book a longer cruise. Our first one was a 3-night. Friday was embarkation day, so on the ship in early afternoon and getting acquainted with where everything was. Saturday was a day in Nassau, where we’d never been before. Sunday was Castaway Cay. And Monday morning we had to be off the ship by 9 AM! IOW, not nearly enough time to enjoy the ship. For any cruise, subtract embarkation day and disembarkation day from the total number of days, because IMHO they don’t really count as part of the cruise.

 

[VGCgroupie]

This is why I don't compare things that don't make sense to compare.

I know the OP has quite a lot of DVC contracts, if you're going to compare the costs you spend as a day at Disney your point is completely off if you don't talk about the investment in those DVC contracts. It would take a lot of Nutcracker events to make up the difference. I'm sure I'd get push back of "well that's not the point" but if you're going to frame it as when people talk about how Disney is expensive the tens of thousands of dollars investment should dang well be part of that

But for the grandeur point many people take events/outings as a sparing thing meaning they do it as a treat, they do it once maybe twice a year (especially if we're talking about families with kids).

For the holidays specifically we just did a local arboretum for their evening holiday walk through, the zoo during the day and the evening holiday walk through and the state museum for less than the cost of 1 person's airfare to Orlando. That includes food at each place. The only caveat being that the state museum was free until the end of the year due to reopening after a little more than 3 years refurb. And if I look at it a different way the cost of all of it for 2 people was less than 1 day's park admission to MK for 1 person.

So this is what you don’t know about me. I am a go-getter. I am a deal getter. I am a money maker, even though I stay home and homeschool my son. I could sell every single one of my DVC contracts and make pure profit cash off of it so don’t come at me like ohh you have so much money . Wahhhh. I’m standing here in my $10 Walmart jeans and $20 knock off uggs from JCP.

Maybe you don’t know anything about the average person. Because I am about as average as it gets. Maybe that’s why I was so flabbergasted about $500 to go to the nutcracker, ever think of that?

 

[VGCgroupie]

Let me add to the chorus saying you should book a longer cruise. Our first one was a 3-night. Friday was embarkation day, so on the ship in early afternoon and getting acquainted with where everything was. Saturday was a day in Nassau, where we’d never been before. Sunday was Castaway Cay. And Monday morning we had to be off the ship by 9 AM! IOW, not nearly enough time to enjoy the ship. For any cruise, subtract embarkation day and disembarkation day from the total number of days, because IMHO they don’t really count as part of the cruise.

I booked the 3 day thinking just in case I hate it… but we watched this you tube last night where the guy did the exact cruise and I was so excited… and I was like wait that’s it it’s over?? So I quickly searched if I could go longer without changing my travel dates and we can. Not a lot more money either imo. Reading online maybe it’s due to Fantasy being a little cheaper than the Wish. We actually have some extra funds in our cruise swap account that would cover some of the extra.


Thanks for the input. Now just need to sell my husband since I said he could work during our resort stay after the 3 day.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Certainly it's fine to not agree with someone's take but don't shoo people away because they have a differing opinion, not light hearted at all. Just ignore them (and me now as well if you'd like). Let the conversation flow to another thing (it will )

You're absolutely right I have no idea of your background and that has no bearing on this. I only know of your situation regarding your contracts because you've openly talked about getting more and more including an entire thread dedicated to where you're buying next.

Everyone comes from different walks of life which is even a better reason to not scoff at people who say Disney is expensive, even in an attempt to jest. Sometimes that event that you did for the Nutcracker could be the only even those people could afford for the year for their family, worth keeping in mind that we all have things that others don't. I've been very fortunate to travel a lot internationally in the last several years and I also remember how it felt to have $13 to my name and no way of knowing if I could even have enough gas to get to a job interview. But when I talk about my international travel I also talk about how X flight was paid for by points (Chase transferred) or how we use points for hotel stays, on our UK trip we bought a Welsh heritage membership which saved X amount of pounds, etc. Because those travels are possible due to those things I won't not talk about them when I'm talking about what costs are.


To be clear you owning DVC is never a problem, I only pointed out that the investment costs IF you're talking about comparing costs of some other activity you did should be included which is what you were talking about in part. You mentioned value and that is subjective not solely tied to costs. Many of us would probably find more value out at Disney for a day than an evening at the Nutcracker.


With all due respect I haven't personally attacked you I may think you need to talk about DVC contracts but I've not personally named called you and yet you have. And you told another poster much the same vibe. It's okay to not like what I say, hey that's fine, but name calling takes it to another level, I've got thick skin here so you're not offending me but yeah.

Did you also find the thread where I talked about how I gave birth to my daughter at 15 and was a single mom and my mom didn’t have money, so where did I get my money from? Hard work. And it’s actually not a lot of money to be honest with you I just know how to hustle.

I worked the graveyard shift while being a mom during the day at 16 years old I saved up enough money to buy a condo when I was 18 that is where I came from. That is why I own DVC did you go stalk that thread up?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

She didnt even say anything about dvc so everything you are saying is irrelevant.

"Going to bat for her so hard" because Im agreeing with her and I think its messed up that youre trying to make her seem like this out of touch rich person that cant comment on the cost of Disney because of how many points she has.

I have accumulated almost 600 points in a year and I am nowhere near rich, we are sacrificing and working our *** off for this, will I not be allowed to comment on the cost of Disney again after I have as many points as her?

My comment was about a simple point of including the costs of what the DVC was in order to allow for Disney to be viewed as less expensive. We all know there are ways to make Disney cheaper, for some that is getting DVC because they anticipate going enough times in the future. When you were commenting back to me you were bringing up things that weren't related to that point, I got what you were saying though.

Whew...okay here's the thing I didn't say anything about not allowing to comment (that is actually the OP there). I just said if you're going to talk about the costs of something else in comparison to Disney then that is in part part of it. If only talking about value well that's totally different as value is so different for everyone. I'd take a trip around the PeopleMover than many things personally speaking but if I'm talking about the costs associated with X and what I need to do to get on the PeopleMover it's different.

As far as out of touch rich...nooooo not at all. I've been very fortunate to be able to do my travels, most people on the DIS know me to be quite candid in talks. You can even see my cost comparisons for cruises back before we chose Seabourn (which is known for the wealthy but dang we aren't anywhere near the wealth we see on board those ships).

 

[VGCgroupie]

Did you also find the thread where I talked about how I gave birth to my daughter at 15 and was a single mom and my mom didn’t have money, so where did I get my money from? Hard work. And it’s actually not a lot of money to be honest with you I just know how to hustle.

I worked the graveyard shift while being a mom during the day at 16 years old I saved up enough money to buy a condo when I was 18 that is where I came from. That is why I own DVC did you go stalk that thread up?

Ohh Maybe you also saw the thread where I was helping a lady whose daughter had some not so nice Friends. I talked about how I grew up in a very bad neighborhood. I was initiated into a gang when I was 11 years old. Did you find that thread? Do you need to know anymore about my life to know that I’m not a stuck up a rich person who owns DVC and is just looking her nose down upon all the commoners??

@Mackenzie Click-Mickelson