When do your kids start school?

[MSLRAC]

Because these kids were not held back

But they were not held back due to overcrowding not NCLB.

 

[Hrhpd]

Because these kids were not held back

WHY?

 

[MSLRAC]

If the parents do not agree with it then we can not hold their child back

That also has nothing to do with NCLB.

 

[msjprincess]

Because these kids were not held back

What on earth are you talking about?

 

[bsblady01]

That has NOTHING to do with NCLB. Nothing at all.

I am not a teacher. I am however a mom with a child that is cognitively impaired and with two other children with learning disabilities. All three of my children have IEP's. I have been to over 22 IEP meetings just for my kids alone and by the time they all graduate I will have been to over 30 meetings. In addition I help other parents just starting out who are confused about the process and because of that I have attended 5 more IEP meetings.

Despite my extensive experience as a parent, a teacher with any experience should be able to at the very least argue effectively and with a great deal of articulation when it comes to the education process and match my knowledge. However I really would expect a teacher to be able to wipe the floor with me. A teacher, unless they are just starting out, should have been to more IEP meetings than I have been to, would know all about the nationally mandated ESY program and how it differs from summer school and would also know exactly what NCLB means, how it directly affects their classroom, their students and how is has NOTHING to do with overcrowding and kids needing to repeat a grade but didn't for whatever reason.

I teach in a very small district and we do not have some of the programs that the bigger schools have. We do not have a lot of kids with iep's they are bussed to the bigger schools a town over that has better programs. I had my first student on the spectrum this year and he did very well.

 

[msjprincess]

If the parents do not agree with it then we can not hold their child back

What does that have to do with NCLB?

 

[jevs]

 

[Hrhpd]

In honor of Goofy_Disney_Dad

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

In honor of Goofy_Disney_Dad

I was actually trying to upload this gif but kept getting a server error that it was too large.

So, thanks!

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

Be safe everyone...

 

[Hrhpd]

I teach in a very small district and we do not have some of the programs that the bigger schools have. We do not have a lot of kids with iep's they are bussed to the bigger schools a town over that has better programs. I had my first student on the spectrum this year and he did very well.

So, were the children who you determined were not ready for 2nd grade put on IEPs or 504s and bused to another school when the parents refused to allow them to be kept back due to NCLB that was caused by overcrowding?

 

[bsblady01]

So, were the children who you determined were not ready for 2nd grade put on IEPs or 504s and bused to another school when the parents refused to allow them to be kept back due to NCLB that was caused by overcrowding?

no these kids are still in our school they are in 3rd and 4th grade now

 

[Hrhpd]

no these kids are still in our school they are in 3rd and 4th grade now

Are they still behind?

 

[disneymom3]

What on earth are you talking about?

Apparently in her area of NY, NCLB is taken very literally and children can't be held back a grade...and it's crowded....?


I think this is the same as "have to work Labor Day" and "first day back" not really meaning either of those things.

 

[TheIncredibles!]

I teach in a very small district and we do not have some of the programs that the bigger schools have. We do not have a lot of kids with iep's they are bussed to the bigger schools a town over that has better programs. I had my first student on the spectrum this year and he did very well.

So your school has no way to handle even the most basic of learning disabilities and chooses to lose money by shipping them off to another school instead? You don't even have resource rooms? When a school ships off their kids to another school they have to also shift funds to that school as well. Schools fight tooth and nail to retain as many students as possible and would hardly ship every IEP student off to another school with"better programs".

Are you aware that IEP's cover a very wide range of kids with a very wide range of abilities and disabilities? These include speech impairment, ADHD, learning disabilities(not the same as cognitive impairment), dyslexia etc.

It's not possible for an experienced teacher to have no experience with IEP's at all. It's unavoidable simply due to the very wide range of disabilities they cover and the fact that schools simply CANNOT avoid students with IEP's by shipping them off to other schools.

 

[JJZMgailey]

Stopping by to *remind* everyone that the topic of this thread is "When do your kids start school?" That question doesn't have anything to do with IEPs, NCLB, or 504s.

Please stay on topic. Thanks!

 

[bsblady01]

So your school has no way to handle even the most basic of learning disabilities and chooses to lose money by shipping them off to another school instead? You don't even have resource rooms? When a school ships off their kids to another school they have to also shift funds to that school as well. Schools fight tooth and nail to retain as many students as possible and would hardly ship every IEP student off to another school with"better programs".

Are you aware that IEP's cover a very wide range of kids with a very wide range of abilities and disabilities? These include speech impairment, ADHD, learning disabilities(not the same as cognitive impairment), dyslexia etc.

It's not possible for an experienced teacher to have no experience with IEP's at all. It's unavoidable simply due to the very wide range of disabilities they cover and the fact that schools simply CANNOT avoid students with IEP's by shipping them off to other schools.

We have student's with iep the kids that need to be in a special ed class are sent to another school

 

[MSLRAC]

We have student's with iep the kids that need to be in a special ed class are sent to another school

Interesting...as a parent with two kids with IEPs, I'd sue the crap out of your school system because they are not providing my kids with the least restrictive learning environment as required by federal law.

 

[TheIncredibles!]

We have student's with iep the kids that need to be in a special ed class are sent to another school

It's more common for kids with IEP's to be in a mainstream classroom then it is for them to be in a contained Special Ed classroom. Kids are to be educated in the least restrictive environment, it's the law and it's something parents fight for. When it comes to the general population and IEPs in general, it's rare to have a student that would benefit more from a self contained classroom as opposed to an inclusive classroom. Also since IEPs cover a wide range of disabilities there are far more children that just need some in class support or need to be pulled for resource room for reading and math then there are kids that would require the intensive and contained education found in a special needs classroom.

A teacher with any kind of experience at all has no reason to not have had a great deal of experience with IEPs etc. Having proved my point several times over now, I am now going to try to respect WMJ's request and will try very hard to not comment on this particular piece of fiction any longer.