When and where for the next onsite DVC

[Deb & Bill]

If we are going to talk dated, why can't they do something with Main Street? It looks so dated.

 

[fupresti]

Your going to see the DC resort announced before anymore on-site DVC. I have to imagine Disney is knee deep in defaults due to the economy and needs to sell what they have been forced to take back in.

 

[MaryD73]

If we are going to talk dated, why can't they do something with Main Street? It looks so dated.

 

[Mickey'sApprentice]

If we are going to talk dated, why can't they do something with Main Street? It looks so dated.

PLEASE tell me you mean that as a joke.

I have to agree. That dinosaur ride is so completely dated...why its pre-historic.

 

[lisaviolet]

Your going to see the DC resort announced before anymore on-site DVC. .

I would love that! Would love NYC DVC even more.

 

[gkrykewy]

Finally before I click "Post" I have to say that I think Walt would be horrified at the Disney Bus and parking lot tram system. Walt saw the future of group transit as independent of - and not relying on roads and single family transportation.

The cost and environmental impact of running that many buses/trams, that many miles and hours - is huge. When visiting Hollywood Studios this past spring I really saw how they could have built a people-mover system in the parking lot that would have afforded guests the opportunity to board anytime - and return to their car anytime without having to board a tram, or wait in line for a bus.

If Disney isn't going to extend the monorail - they really need to think about the future and consider the sustainability of bus service to so many area - at such frequent intervals.

Buses are not the answer - with the number of buses and how full they are even at off peak times - I can't help but think how unfortunate it is that Disney didn't have a master transportation plan for the 'Florida Project' that lived after Walt died.

Sorry for taking such a long departure!

This is an interesting discussion that probably deserves its own thread. Feel free to take it there if you like! I have several thoughts/points/assertions/demands:

1. Disney buses are much less 'environmentally damaging' than an equivalent passenger capacity spread over private cars. As they roll into hybrid and/or electric buses as the fleet is modernized, this environmental edge will become even more pronounced. If you want to get technical, the WDW monorail is essentially an electric "Bus Rapid Transit" system, not a rail system - it has rubber tires.

2. Evidently, before 9/11 Disney was considering embarking on a fairly robust light-rail network across the WDW property. This was scuttled when tourism tanked, but could still be in the long-range plan. Unfortunately, there's no getting around the fact that WDW is fairly disbursed and not very dense. Whether monorail, bus, or light-rail, service is going to be very expensive to operate.

3. It's worth noting that it looks like the Tampa-Orlando high-speed rail service looks like it's actually going to happen this time, and would have a WDW station at the northwest corner of the interchange between 192 and I-4 (near Wide World of Sports). If this service does move forward, it will be interesting to see how WDW adjusts the transportation system to interface with that station.

 

[nuts]

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From a transportation perspective, I've always wondered why they didn't go with light rail from the resorts. I gotta believe the ROI would be good compared to the bus system.

 

[gkrykewy]

Regarding bus vs. light rail, I think bus is rather a slam dunk cost-wise. Vehicles are cheaper, operating costs are comparable (the biggest component is the driver), buses are much more flexible (something on which the current system depends), and buses can use the same roads as cars whereas light rail would require new rights of way and probably trigger some pretty significant wetlands regulations.

Regarding your other cheap stunt, hey -- it's your dignity at stake, not mine!