As the operator of the machine that can cause the harm, you have to accept the most responsibility. Even if that means you pull aside and wait until the crowd thins out.
Really why do I have to assume the responsibility?
You should always assume responsibility,
ECV or not. OPerating the machine that can cuase the most damage means you should assume more.
As the user, you accept knowldge that there are idiots present, but you have to give right of way, all the time, every time. So you have to to give extra room, you have to go slow, you might even have to leave early or stay later, but to put yourself in the middle of that much pedestrian traffic is just selfish.
And I can promise you that when you give extra room it will quickly be filled with people. I do choose to stay later when I can but that is my choice. And just as I have options so do the pedestrians who see my ECV and walk in front of me anyway.
As previously stated, I have seen this happen as well. I have seen it happen numerous times without an accident or further incident. It doesn't mean extra room shouldn't ne left just because it is an inconvenience.
Yes, sometimes it means you have to leave shows early, or stay and be the last person to leave. Sometimes it means you can't leave right after Illuminations. Yes, you have to give a few feet between you and the person in front of you, and people will undoubtedly try and fill that space...and you have to continue to leave it because if you don't you are increasing the probability of an accident.
Why should I have to leave a show early because other people are rude and cut in front of me?
You don't have to leave early. You can chose to wait for the crowd to disperse some and as we have both mentioned, take the less traveled scenic route when available.
I am not saying EVC users accept 100% of the responsibility and are at fault in every single accident every single time, BUT if you agree that you should accept the majority of the responsibility why do you want to argue about whether you should take 60% or 80% of the responsibility?
If I am at fault I will accept 100% of the responsibility but just because I need an ECV in Disney does not automatically make me more at fault!
No, your need to use an EVC does not make you more at fault. Your choice to use one in Disney does put more burden of the responsibility on your shoulders. It's your choice to decline that responsibility, but thankfully most do not.
Isn't it just easier to expect that some people will accept none, and since you are on the machine that can cuase harm, already have planned to take longer than everyone else and are willing to go out of your way, just pull over and wait or just leave 4' between your chair and the person in front of you.
Again I can leave all the space in the world to prepare for the unexpected but that argument goes both ways. Pedestrians seeing an ECV should also give room to the "vehicle".
If a pedestrain runs you and your ECV over aren't the chances much smaller they will cause serious ahrm to you than if you run them over? I am not saying you would, but the fact that you are operating a maching that is the most dangerous in this situation means you should assume more of the responsibility. Just like on the interstates and waterways.
No, you should totally inconvenience yourself because your machine can cause serious harm.
I don't expect anything to change, but It doesn't mean I have to like it either. I have been on both sides and seen it from both angles (previous video of my daughter almost getting ran over by someone on an ECV), but god forbid you accept the proper responsibility for the power you have been privelaged with. It's much easier to just blame everything on everyone else.
My using an ECV is a privilage? Seriously. I would love the privilage of walking on my own 2 feet. Unfortunately 6 knee surgeries took that away from me. I am thankful that I have the ability to use an ECV. It beats the alternative of walking out of the park with tears streaming down my face and holding onto poles just to stand from the excruciating pain I am in.
Yes, using an ECV is a privelage. The use of an ECV in WDW is not a right, it is a preivelage (remember what it was like before
ECVS were used). I am not saying you are privelaged to have to use an EVC. PLease, dont try and put those words in my mouth, but the use of an EVC is a privelage over other alternatives.
I do disagree with that statement.
I was in Disney last month with friends and increased my need for an ECV because I tore a ligament in my ankle 2 weeks before we left. I am extremely cautious when I drive it. That being said leaving Philaharmagic I was driving as close to the wall as possible approaching the store. I actually was stopped because of the traffic and a woman ran in front of me pulling her child. The child's face hit my basket. Even though I wasn't moving I asked if her child was OK and she gave me a dirty look and kept on going. Her husband apologized to me several timnes and took off after her yelling at his wife.
By your logic I am at fault for this because I had the ECV. Sorry but this goes both ways. Pedestrians bear just as much responsibility. And I rarely respond to these threads but I felt as though I had to this time. These threads are why my DH and I argue bitterly before we go to Disney however. I would rather walk and be in pain than deal with the looks and attitudes I get in the ECV. I am now going back to lurkdom.
You obviously have not read all my posts, which is understandable because this is a long thread. If you have read them all, maybe you missed the point where I said there are some occurances where nothing can be done. But, I am not concerned with blaming someone after an accident. I am more concerned about being the more responsible party when I am with someone in an ECV, whether we are in an accident or not.
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