What's with the Jesus skywriting?

[Crankyshank]

I loveeeeeeeee the double standards you PEEPS use on a daily basis on here. If we agree with your lib views on every point thats cool. But if we disagree and may have OH MY GOSHHHHHHH! "conservative" views. Why now I'm a racists, bigot, homophobe, that should be taken out and shot right after George Bush.

Whoa! calm down there flappy, no one called you any of those things.

I'm not a liberal by the way. You really might want to work on maybe broadening the boxes you keep putting people in.

 

[aztecgoods]

I leave for two hours, and this turns into some gay debate?

The point is, that "Gay Luv" and "Jesus Loves You" can be annoying to different people. A gay atheist would feel differently than your typical Christian.

Actually, I'd prefer neither. I don't want to discuss sexual issue with my children just yet, and I don't particularly want them believing in imaginary deities. To each his own.

That was alllllllllll I was originally saying and it got blown into this. But thats cool I like to debate PEEPS.

 

[orljustin]

I personally have found some comments here made towards Christians just as insulting in just the same way you find the skywriting insulting. To me, insulting Christians by saying some imaginary deity is my friend is just as insulting as some prostylizing Christian to some of you all. You may not think it, but you are telling me I am wrong, and you are right. Sound familiar.

Ah, see, this is a forum for discussion, not the sky above a theme park. I can have my opinion, and you can have yours, but no one is forced to read what they don't like.

 

[aztecgoods]

Whoa! calm down there flappy, no one called you any of those things.

I'm not a liberal by the way. You really might want to work on maybe broadening the boxes you keep putting people in.

Nah I don't think I was directing that towards you, sorry for the confusion.

Now I'm bored, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DEBATE TODAY!?!?!?!?!?

 

[aztecgoods]

I take a nap and the thread moved like lighting!


Mwaah! Ha! Ha! That's just what I need. An imaginary stalker. Cue the scary music!

I don't need to read your religious drivel any longer. You and the skywriter are two peas in a huge pod of arrogant Christians who don't care if I want to hear "the word" of your God. You're going to shove it down my throat with "love".

There was thread a month or two ago about how silly it is to tell someone when you put them on "ignore". Sorry, I just can't help it.

*plonk*
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Electronically sticking my fingers in my ears. La la la la la la la la I can't hear you. And I won't listen to you again until you have something reasonable to say.

Just for the record, I definitely don't believe in shoving anything Christian or relgious down your throat. I think that is totally the WRONG way to go.

 

[aztecgoods]

Yes, God is on our money. God is on our money because people like the skywriter decided it should be there. Not our forefathers.

Most of the forefathers believed in a supreme being, a God, they weren't particularly religious or Christian. But they merely recognized that something with extreme power created our world and universe. That is what the eye at the top of the unfinished pyrimid represents on the dollar bill.

 

[4theloveofdisney]

Wow! I can't believe this thread is still going on but I just had a little thought (well...maybe not so little!)

To some people it's natural to believe what you believe. You either grew up around it or were flat out raised a certain way, such as Catholic or Jewish for example. Others may have been raised in a different religion or not in one at all. And let's face it, some of the stories and practices of different religions can be downright strange and therefore overwhelming and hard to believe to a non-believer let alone to some who believe. We all have our comfort levels.

What some find so natural may make another person uncomfortable or offend them. Why is that so wrong? I was raised Pentecostal and my husband, Catholic. I can tell you that if my DH were to step foot in the Pentecostal church that I was raised in, he would probably high-tail it out of there and never return. Now I wouldn't think that raising your hands to praise the Lord, or shouting from the pulpit or speaking in tongues is strange because that is what I saw growing up. To DH, well, it's just plain freaky!!

So, my point is, maybe we just need to accept that the message that "God loves you" just might freak someone even though it's doesn't offend you. Maybe we need to accept that it bothers those of other faiths. Maybe we need to accept that it just might even bother someone of a Christain faith because they feel it's inappropriate or tacky to see at a Theme Park, while on vacation.

Any way you look at it, people have a right to be and feel comfortable no matter what.

Personally, I really don't care what the sky-writer writes. There are many things out there that I read that don't pertain to me, or I feel, are inappropriate - billboards, newspaper ads, commercials, even some cartoons. But, there is nothing that I can do about it so I just accept it, don't have to like it, and move on. I don't let it ruin my day or vacation for that matter but I just wanted to say that I can see the other side of the fence now and you won't "hear" any lectures or finger wagging from me - only understanding.

Peace, Love and Mickey Mouse!

 

[RayaniFoxmur]

That was alllllllllll I was originally saying and it got blown into this. But thats cool I like to debate PEEPS.

You're quite a snarky little piece of work, aren't you?


The attitudes I'm reading here are just nasty! It's like we have two teams, the Christians and the Non-Christians. And unfortunately for all the witnessing in the thread, I agree completely with the Non-Christians. And guess what? I AM Christian! I don't want to see stuff like that when I'm on my vacation just as much as I don't want to go to Church when I'm on vacation.

Though I have to ask, Joyce why do you continue to witness in this thread when it's been repeatedly said it's not welcome? That's a complete lack of respect.

 

[JoyG]

You're quite a snarky little piece of work, aren't you?


The attitudes I'm reading here are just nasty! It's like we have two teams, the Christians and the Non-Christians.

I sincerely hope that people see there are christians on this thread who are not snarky.

 

[4theloveofdisney]

Most of the forefathers believed in a supreme being, a God, they weren't particularly religious or Christian. But they merely recognized that something with extreme power created our world and universe. That is what the eye at the top of the unfinished pyrimid represents on the dollar bill.

Yup! It's funny you said that. I'm reading a book about various cultures - half a world apart but all believe in something supreme. For example:

American Indians - Sacred Mother Earth
Aborigines - "Dreamtime" mythology
Incas - Sun God
Christians and Jews - God
Islam - Allah
Buddhism - The Enlightened One
Hinduism - the principle of "Brahman"

And that's only a few. : )

 

[RayaniFoxmur]

I sincerely hope that people see there are christians on this thread who are not snarky.

Of course there are, just like there are non-christians on this thread that are not snarky. Unfortunately the ones that are from both sides are louder than the ones that aren't though.

And for some reason I'm being amused by the snarky ones that are non-christians. The ones that are Christian and being snarky, I'm just getting offended by. Not sure why, but the sarcasm that DRIPS from those posts are making me red with frustration and anger.

 

[JoyG]

The ones that are Christian and being snarky, I'm just getting offended by. Not sure why, but the sarcasm that DRIPS from those posts are making me red with frustration and anger.

Me too.

 

[Joyce Kingkade]

You're quite a snarky little piece of work, aren't you?


The attitudes I'm reading here are just nasty! It's like we have two teams, the Christians and the Non-Christians. And unfortunately for all the witnessing in the thread, I agree completely with the Non-Christians. And guess what? I AM Christian! I don't want to see stuff like that when I'm on my vacation just as much as I don't want to go to Church when I'm on vacation.

Though I have to ask, Joyce why do you continue to witness in this thread when it's been repeatedly said it's not welcome? That's a complete lack of respect.

I have a right to voice my beliefs, just as others do. No one has to read my posts and only a few have said they are not welcome. I have many PMs that have thanked me for what I have posted. When I am on vacation I do not deposit my love for God at the gates of WDW. He enters with me. He is my life and I live every day to please Him. I talk to Him every day. I would never want to take a vacation from Him. Why is it others can post their beliefs and I cannot? I am not telling anyone they have to listen to me. Just tossing out some "food for thought". When you see my signature just pass over my post, because more times than not, I will mention my best Friend!

 

[RayaniFoxmur]

When I am on vacation I do not deposit my love for God at the gates of WDW. He enters with me.

I sincerely hope this is not a backhanded way of saying that I do this due to what I said earlier about not wanting to see this on vacation just like I wouldn't want to go to church on vacation.

 

[orljustin]

The ones that are Christian and being snarky, I'm just getting offended by. Not sure why, but the sarcasm that DRIPS from those posts are making me red with frustration and anger.

This is the kind of thing that bothers me, because you get the impression that this type of person feels your life sucks and you are incomplete, and how could you go on, and how they must now work to make sure you know that, while the rest of us just say "Hey, whatever - think what you want, just don't involve me in it".

 

[eclectics]

Whoa! calm down there flappy, no one called you any of those things.

I'm not a liberal by the way. You really might want to work on maybe broadening the boxes you keep putting people in.

Don't you love folks who have a melt down YAGE when others have the nerve to challenge them and then say they are not coming back, but miraculously reappear the next day like nothing happened, to start it all over again?

 

[orljustin]

He is my life and I live every day to please Him. I talk to Him every day. I would never want to take a vacation from Him.

Doesn't really sound like a lot of fun. Moderation should be the key here.

 

[cardaway]

I have a right to voice my beliefs, just as others do. No one has to read my posts and only a few have said they are not welcome. I have many PMs that have thanked me for what I have posted. When I am on vacation I do not deposit my love for God at the gates of WDW. He enters with me. He is my life and I live every day to please Him. I talk to Him every day. I would never want to take a vacation from Him. Why is it others can post their beliefs and I cannot? I am not telling anyone they have to listen to me. Just tossing out some "food for thought". When you see my signature just pass over my post, because more times than not, I will mention my best Friend!

I'll just paste my previous post since you proved it word for word.

Actually the most insulting thing going on on this thread is the continued witnessing by people who have been told it's not welcome.

But as usual, when Christians look back on this thread they will talk about how rude people were in this thread and leave out the rudeness that started it, and the many rude Christians that kept it going.

 

[Joyce Kingkade]

I sincerely hope this is not a backhanded way of saying that I do this due to what I said earlier about not wanting to see this on vacation just like I wouldn't want to go to church on vacation.

No, I hope you did not take it that way, I was telling you how I feel, just as you told me how you feel. I just wanted you to know how important God is to me. Nothing more. How you feel about that is up to you.

 

[RayaniFoxmur]

No, I hope you did not take it that way, I was telling you how I feel, just as you told me how you feel. I just wanted you to know how important God is to me. Nothing more. How you feel about that is up to you.

I think it's amusing to me that you are witnessing, you know you are witnessing, and yet you claim you do not claiming freedom of speech and saying that you are just stating your beliefs to everyone. Your beliefs have been stated, and stated for several pages. Why do you feel the need to continue to reiterate it? Your "I'm just stating my beliefs" is nothing but an excuse for your witnessing and I find it to be grossly disrespectful to the people who HAVE stated it's offensive to them.