ImprovGal
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I've seen about as much "almost" nudity in the family/kid pool areas as I've seen in the adult pool area. There are some things I wish I could unsee.
Okay maybe I'm being a bit of a pot-stirrer here, but if you want a Adults only cruise experience wouldn't sailing on like Regency or Fred Olsen cruise lines be more your preference? After all these are DISNEY ships, the entire concept of just about everything Disney is families, kids, and inclusion of them together! Isolating yourself on a ship that is designed for families with kids is kind of anti-social. Personally I would like to see a LARGER pool area for families, not just the little ones, but something where the entire family could hang out around the pool with out anyone being excluded simply because of their age. IMHO anyway.Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!![]()
What about the adult-only groups that love Disney also? Shouldn't they have a space for themselves? Much like the kid's clubs are kid-only (except for designated times when adults are allowed in). I don't see it as anti-social. More like being able to have the vacation you want, on the cruise line you love.Okay maybe I'm being a bit of a pot-stirrer here, but if you want a Adults only cruise experience wouldn't sailing on like Regency or Fred Olsen cruise lines be more your preference? After all these are DISNEY ships, the entire concept of just about everything Disney is families, kids, and inclusion of them together! Isolating yourself on a ship that is designed for families with kids is kind of anti-social. Personally I would like to see a LARGER pool area for families, not just the little ones, but something where the entire family could hang out around the pool with out anyone being excluded simply because of their age. IMHO anyway.
I think the dress thing for dinner is sort of impossible at this point. Business and work attire is tending to the more casual and so I don't think they'd meet with a good response after people have paid a lot of money for the vacation and then told they had to dress up if they didn't want to, and then told they couldn't be seated for the meal if they didn't.
Okay maybe I'm being a bit of a pot-stirrer here, but if you want a Adults only cruise experience wouldn't sailing on like Regency or Fred Olsen cruise lines be more your preference? After all these are DISNEY ships, the entire concept of just about everything Disney is families, kids, and inclusion of them together! Isolating yourself on a ship that is designed for families with kids is kind of anti-social. Personally I would like to see a LARGER pool area for families, not just the little ones, but something where the entire family could hang out around the pool with out anyone being excluded simply because of their age. IMHO anyway.
I tend to agree with you , I would bet 90% plus of the passengers have some kids in their party, yet 30% of the top deck is adults only. I think more pool deck space for families is warranted given how tight it is now.
I was part of the 90% travelling with kids, but I still really enjoyed time in the adults only areas. My kids WANTED some time in the tween/teen clubs and after all, isn't great kids clubs one of the draws for DCL? So when they were there, I enjoyed some time in the adult areas. I would want that to get any smaller.
Some areas of the ship were definitely under-utilized, but that is great too. Such a big ship with so many people and still some empty areas. I would say, better wind control on the upper decks and more optional (Maybe retractable?) shade on the top decks would be great. Some areas were empty much of the time because it was just too Windy/Sunny to do anything, even just lie there, and thus, those areas went unused.
Remember too, much of the reason that the pools on the ships aren't bigger is due to Physics. So much weight, so high up, but maybe more modern ships can cope with that too.
I hear you about the lack of thought put into the adult areas relating to wind and shade. I am all for adult only areas, but hey even the adult nightclubs are basically empty every night. Add to that, the kids clubs , at least in my kids age groups are WAY overcrowded, not a great place for kids who might enjoy escaping to some quiet space just as you say adults like. Given the small % of adult only bookings even in off-season I thought more family space is warranted ESPECIALLY on the top deck
Actually, the spaces I was referring to are not in the adult only areas.
Again, I don't think adult-only bookings have anything to do with it. The question is how many people on the ship are seeking adult-only space, and to me, the answer is most of them, at some time or another. I didn't find the night clubs to be empty either. I think they already have a good compromise there: children welcome until 9PM and then adult only.
It is valid to ask for the kids areas to be larger if you find them to be overcrowded. My kids are a little older than yours. Their spaces were a good size for their group, plus they could come and go as they pleased.
Personally I would like to see a ship the size of oasis with a Disney design , it would be amazing with what Disney imagineers and all of the Disney content they could integrate into such a large space - rides, 5 or 6 pools, a better designed adult area. There is more space per passenger in those ships for kids and adults alike. Unfortunately, ain't going to happen
I'd go for a the adult-only pool area (only accessed by adults, no "just walking through" kiddos).
New itineraries.
A bit larger bathrooms in the staterooms.
Better noise control in the dining rooms.
Card tables.
I'd go for a the adult-only pool area (only accessed by adults, no "just walking through" kiddos).
Card tables.
Playing Jenga in a moving ship: difficulty +++New itineraries.
Adult area that is truly adult--not where families have to walk through
Dinner buffet
Photopass (with photopass type of prices and ability to combine with WDW stay) instead of Shutters