What will Cars Land WDW look like?

[Splasher]

Saw the news that Cars Land will indeed be coming to WDW last night. ( I believe Dad's guide was the source.). A question for those who have been to the Disneyland version, What should WDW's version keep, get rid of, or improve upon? I'm so excited to see it. Hoping it doesn't take three years to build...

 

[rteetz]

Saw the news that Cars Land will indeed be coming to WDW last night. ( I believe Dad's guide was the source.). A question for those who have been to the Disneyland version, What should WDW's version keep, get rid of, or improve upon? I'm so excited to see it. Hoping it doesn't take three years to build...

Dads guide is not reliable at all. There is no credible info at this time that carsland is coming to WDW. So right now I would say it's not coming. The only credible thing I have heard is that a single cars ride might come to DHS.

 

[rteetz]

http://www.inquisitr.com/2101032/wa...ing-to-disneys-hollywood-studios-not-so-fast/

 

[wallrock]

I believe Hollywood Studios will get something - whatever that something is - when:

Disney spokespersons make the official announcement.
The official announcement actually contains solid dates and specifics around what's going in. None of this 'presence in the parks' nonsense from the chief executive.
Permits actually get filed.
Lastly and most importantly, shovels start moving dirt.

Only then will I believe something is headed to that half empty park. Until then it's business as usual.

 

[Astridia]

http://www.inquisitr.com/2101032/wa...ing-to-disneys-hollywood-studios-not-so-fast/

So basically, despite multiple posts on these boards, the only definite thing coming to DHS is "flex space" ( Is this the same thing as additional Cement?) and an additional TSMM track. Everything else is pie in the sky dreaming.

 

[101disneyfan]

The flex space will go in on Sunset Blvd between TZToT and RRC.

 

[rteetz]

So basically, despite multiple posts on these boards, the only definite thing coming to DHS is "flex space" ( Is this the same thing as additional Cement?) and an additional TSMM track. Everything else is pie in the sky dreaming.

Correct no permits have been filed and nothing has been announced.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Don't take the bait on this one...this looks like another in the recent rash of "get hopes up to mess with people" bits

 

[lockedoutlogic]

The flex space will go in on Sunset Blvd between TZToT and RRC.

I think the idea there is a theater that can be used for adaptable offerings or perhaps to allow construction elsewhere

With this...and the hat demolition... They are making some attempt at kicking the tires.

It's just there's nothing but vague promises (if you can even get a comment on it) and as usual - the pacing is gobbling up people's lives...so the frustration is building.

I think it's still a strong possibility that the current management will "ride out" studios for another couple of years rather than sink money in.

15 years ago...with everything open and that level of property wide attendance...the park was perfectly fine.

Now it's moved into a different level and the status quo wasnt working...so it's mothballed to a certain extent for now... What happens?
Nobody has any real clue...I think even in the management.

 

[DDLand]

So basically, despite multiple posts on these boards, the only definite thing coming to DHS is "flex space" ( Is this the same thing as additional Cement?) and an additional TSMM track. Everything else is pie in the sky dreaming.

Not confirmed, but more than pie in the sky. What we know:
1) Disney understands there is a problem with DHS. There's a reason they concocted Frozen Fun. That's because there are obvious issues with that park's longterm viability. Multiple sources have said as much.
2)As far back as 2011 Disney was exploring bringing Avatar to DHS. While it was eventually passed in favor of work over at DAK, this shows interest and understanding that there is a problem.
3) Disney has shown in recent years a fundamental belief that when it's time to fix a park, they go in with everything they have. Look at DCA and HKDL.
4) Disney has powerful IP at their disposal that they can deploy for the benefit of multiple divisions within the company. Building for example a Star Wars Land at DHS would help DCP, DI, and WDS. Not to mention the positive impact on multiple parks, Resorts, and their shiny new Disney Springs.
5) Disney at one time was within months of beginning construction before sudden postponement.
6) Disney has played with multiple concepts and we know Star Wars and Pixar are among them. We know this from multiple sources.
7)Disney has closed backlot tour freeing several acres of space.
8) We know something is still in development.
9) Major rebranding is in the works including a new name.
So more than pie in the sky, but nothing specific. To ignore the long list above would be a vast simplification. While it's true there are currently no permits filed, there's nothing to suggest that longterm we won't get something.

 

[rteetz]

Not confirmed, but more than pie in the sky. What we know:
1) Disney understands there is a problem with DHS. There's a reason they concocted Frozen Fun. That's because there are obvious issues with that park's longterm viability. Multiple sources have said as much.
2)As far back as 2011 Disney was exploring bringing Avatar to DHS. While it was eventually passed in favor of work over at DAK, this shows interest and understanding that there is a problem.
3) Disney has shown in recent years a fundamental belief that when it's time to fix a park, they go in with everything they have. Look at DCA and HKDL.
4) Disney has powerful IP at their disposal that they can deploy for the benefit of multiple divisions within the company. Building for example a Star Wars Land at DHS would help DCP, DI, and WDS. Not to mention the positive impact on multiple parks, Resorts, and their shiny new Disney Springs.
5) Disney at one time was within months of beginning construction before sudden postponement.
6) Disney has played with multiple concepts and we know Star Wars and Pixar are among them. We know this from multiple sources.
7)Disney has closed backlot tour freeing several acres of space.
8) We know something is still in development.
9) Major rebranding is in the works including a new name.
So more than pie in the sky, but nothing specific. To ignore the long list above would be a vast simplification. While it's true there are currently no permits filed, there's nothing to suggest that longterm we won't get something.

1. Correct, if only they would just work a little faster
2. Jon Landau was the one who suggested to change to AK which I think works better than DHS, Avatar was suppsoed to have a smaller presence in DHS than it will in AK.
3.Correct, DLP is the current situation
4. Correct, I just would love if they used some more of pixar as well seeing that they have owned that the longest
5. Correct, rumors are MM+ budget overruns, and DLP buyout.
6-9. Correct.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

The main problem with the list is that Hong Kong and California adventure suffered massive attendance issues...and Paris has been inconsistent and not very profitable...

Studios has not had these problems...because the 4 park model is going to naturally get people there for at least some part of their stay.

If you're a fan of a bigger, better MGM - we need an honest, good old fashioned crisis...in truth

 

[rteetz]

The main problem with the list is that Hong Kong and California adventure suffered massive attendance issues...and Paris has been inconsistent and not very profitable...

Studios has not had these problems...because the 4 park model is going to naturally get people there for at least some part of their stay.

If you're a fan of a bigger, better MGM - we need an honest, good old fashioned crisis...in truth

I think there would've been an attendance problem if they didn't hold frozen summer fun. That brought people in for sure.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I think there would've been an attendance problem if they didn't hold frozen summer fun. That brought people in for sure.

I think to force change... They need a "there's nothing here - were not going" movement and a 30% drop...

But like I said... The property " props" it up.

This is exactly why animal kingdom has seen limited investment till now...
the concept is just interesting enough to get people there...but they always tend to leave in 5 hours...so the net result was a skewed attendance figure that never forced construction of the 1-2 more lands that they really have always needed.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I think there would've been an attendance problem if they didn't hold frozen summer fun. That brought people in for sure.

It did. We went last summer specifically for that.

Who knows, maybe they will just keep doing stuff like that as new movies come out and not build anything new for a long time (other than the TSMM track). I'm thinking there isn't anything new coming there until Avatarland is completely done.

 

[rteetz]

It did. We went last summer specifically for that.

Who knows, maybe they will just keep doing stuff like that as new movies come out and not build anything new for a long time (other than the TSMM track). I'm thinking there isn't anything new coming there until Avatarland is completely done.

I was there in the summer as well and I think it definitely made a difference. The frozen summer fun is back again this year so they are trying to still get people there I guess. With avatar opening in early 2017 I think if something happens construction would like start late this year or early next. It will be interesting as always to see what happens.

 

[Splasher]

Bummer. Cars land would make an awesome addition IMHO.

 

[DDLand]

The main problem with the list is that Hong Kong and California adventure suffered massive attendance issues...and Paris has been inconsistent and not very profitable...

Studios has not had these problems...because the 4 park model is going to naturally get people there for at least some part of their stay.

If you're a fan of a bigger, better MGM - we need an honest, good old fashioned crisis...in truth

Agreed. That's why I think DHS has fallen to the back burner several times. It's been a pretty strong performer over the last few years in attendance. However, that's just masking an overall weakening of the park. Frozen Fever has largely kept the offering strong. That can't go on forever. If they're not at crisis yet, then they're pretty close.

As I've said before, I think Disney will also build if it thinks it can generate more revenue too. I think DHS is a great example of a park that has significant upside potential. In the past it wasn't clear that they'd get a return on investment. Now it's the time to move to both preserve strength and generate millions of more ticket clicks.

The only problem there is in the forseeable future is the infrastructure strain Resort wide.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Agreed. That's why I think DHS has fallen to the back burner several times. It's been a pretty strong performer over the last few years in attendance. However, that's just masking an overall weakening of the park. Frozen Fever has largely kept the offering strong. That can't go on forever. If they're not at crisis yet, then they're pretty close.

As I've said before, I think Disney will also build if it thinks it can generate more revenue too. I think DHS is a great example of a park that has significant upside potential. In the past it wasn't clear that they'd get a return on investment. Now it's the time to move to both preserve strength and generate millions of more ticket clicks.

The only problem there is in the forseeable future is the infrastructure strain Resort wide.

The problem is that frozen upsells is the path of least resistance...

And after two summers of this with an artificially attendance boost...all the existing attractions at MGM age 18 more months and delays and real advancement of the park by that same time period...it is reasonable to assume.

 

[ArwenMarie]

This year, I don't think they are going to get the boost they got last year from Frozen Summer Fun. Seems like a lot less buzz about it this spring, as well as about the movie itself.