What was the vaccine we had as kids that left a scar?

My sister and I got our smallpox vaccines on our ankles instead of shoulder. I am so glad because no one notices our ankle scars.

How old were children when they received the vaccine? I was born in 1960 and I don't remember getting it.
 
Actually, I heard on TV this week that there are different opinions on whether or not those of us who once had the smallpox vaccination have any immunity left. I hope so! I think they stopped giving the vaccine in the mid-70's
 
Originally posted by Keli
I was wondering if the chickenpox vacination they are giving to children will only last a few years also? If that's true won't we have a terrible problem with adults getting the disease in 20-30 years? I know the complications are much more prevelant in adults than children that catch them.

My ds had the shot when he was 1 yo (just checked his shot record, for some reason I thought he was older:o ). He'll have to go back when he's, I believe 11 to get a 2nd innoculation for it. I think it only lasts 10 years.
 
Originally posted by EROS
Hi Dumboiu, always nice to see you here.;) ;) ;) .

Great questions as usual, but I'm DEFINITELY not a microbiologist. The data which is available suggests that immunization provides complete coverage for 3-5 years, after which immunity "gradually" decreases. Since smallpox was eradicated, it's difficult to really assess how much conferred immunity previous vaccination recipients actually have; obviously, we're not about to attempt research which infects healthy volunteers who were previously immunized!!!!!

As you know,we're talking about a Live vaccine which contains the vaccinia virus. Up to 1 out of every 100 people vaccinated can experience mild symptoms. The CDC estimates that the incidence of death with vaccinations is probably 1 or 2 out of 1,000,000.

Groups who should NOT be vaccinated include:

Pregnant women
Breastfeeding women
Those with impaired immunity (HIV or cancer treatment)
Those with a history of eczema or atopic dermatitis
children under 1 year of age.

That's about all that I know:)

Thanks, EROS. What you wrote was true given the information we have to date. Also from the CDC:

Statistical information about smallpox vaccine adverse reactions is based on data from two studies conducted in 1968. Adverse event rates in the United States today may be higher because there may be more people at risk from immune suppression (from cancer, cancer therapy, organ transplants, and illnesses such as HIV/AIDS) and eczema or atopic dermatitis . The outcome associated with adverse events may be less severe than previously reported because of advances in medical care. Rates may be lower for persons previously vaccinated.
 
Eros or dumbois,
Do either of you know why people with a history of excema should not get the vacine?? That really worries me since my DD has had excema since she was a month old (Although it is much better now just a little on her upper arms)
Thanks for the info!:)
 
Apparently, people with eczema are at risk for a condition called eczema vaccinatum, which can cause high fever and severe sores, scabs and deep scars all over the body. The condition has a death rate of 1 percent to 6 percent.

Here is an article you may find interesting:

Smallpox Vaccine and Eczema Don't Mix

Combination Can Cause Severe, Possibly Deadly Infection

By Salynn Boyles
WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD
on Friday, November 22, 2002

Sept. 9, 2002 -- As many as half of all Americans are poor candidates for smallpox vaccination due to a rare, but potentially fatal, skin infection caused by the vaccine, health officials report. They conclude that mass immunization against smallpox in the absence of an identified bioterrorist attack may do more harm than good.


Immunologist Donald Leung and colleagues report that smallpox vaccination poses a threat to people with a history of the skin condition known as eczema, with the risk being particularly great for children. Being in close contact with someone who has recently been vaccinated can also be dangerous for those who have the skin disease or have had it. Leung tells WebMD that the frequency of eczema has tripled among children in the years since smallpox vaccinations were routinely given. Studies now suggest that up to 15% of people have a history of eczema.


"If 15% of the population has had [eczema] and each has a parent or sibling who [will be in] close contact, we are talking about nearly 50% of the population being excluded from vaccination," says Leung, who is head of pediatric allergy-immunology at Denver's National Jewish Medical and Research Center.


He adds that a national smallpox vaccination campaign makes sense only if it is voluntary, or if it is in response to a bioterrorist attack. The findings are reported in the September issue of the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology.


"If we are under attack, everyone should be immunized because 30% of individuals die from smallpox and [in this event] the vaccination is much safer than getting the disease," he says.


The last case of smallpox occurred in the U.S. in 1949, and the disease was declared eradicated worldwide in 1980 by the World Health Organization. The virus is now believed to exist only in controlled labs at the CDC in Atlanta and in Russia. But in the days following the Sept. 11 attacks, government officials began hammering out a strategy to deal with its potential use as a biological weapon.


The live virus smallpox vaccine has one of the highest rates of adverse reactions of any now given. In addition to the severe skin infection, deadly side effects can include brain swelling and widespread toxicity occurring primarily in people with weakened immune systems.


'"The very real dangers associated with the live [smallpox] vaccine may take on a greater urgency today than decades ago given the current numbers of people with pre-existing medical conditions that put them at risk for serious side effects," Leung's colleague Julie Kenner, MD, PhD, says in a news release. Kenner is with the University of Hawaii.


It is unclear how many eczema patients would actually develop the vaccine-related skin infection -- known as eczema vaccinatum -- if immunizations were resumed. Data from the early 1970s showed that the infection was most common among young children, and 123 cases occurred among 1 million vaccinees. In a European study, 6% of those who got the infection died from it.


The CDC estimates that if the vaccine were given to everyone in the U.S., about 300-500 people would die from adverse reactions. After a two-day meeting in June, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommended that preemptive vaccinations be given only to people considered to be at high risk. In the event of an actual smallpox outbreak, the vaccine could be given within four days of exposure to lessen the severity of the illness or prevent it.
 
could adult acne not let someone get the shot(I have a mild form of acne and i'm 23)
 
Originally posted by CourtasanSatine
could adult acne not let someone get the shot(I have a mild form of acne and i'm 23)

Check with your own doctor.........but I believe the answer is that you should not get the smallpox vaccine.
 
Mine left a scar that is perfectly round and about the size of a nickle.
 
What is really frightening (from Reuters):

The vaccine to be used is DryVax -- coming from 30-year-old stocks last used to immunize the public in 1972. It is the most dangerous vaccine existing, posing a threat not only to those vaccinated, but to people they come into contact with.

So.........my question to our resident health care professionals is.........if YOU get the vaccine, at what point is it safe for you to be near those who have not?
 
My mom told me that was a booster shot.

It sure is ugly, isn't it?

So, was that the small pox vaccine?
I don't even notice mine unless I look for it. The way I see it, if that's the worst thing I have related to that disease, I consider myself among the fortunate.
 
Remember the vaccine we had as kids (if your in your 40's you probably had it) that left a scab on your arm that eventually fell off and left a scar. Was that small pox vaccine?

When did they stop giving it? I'm 42 and never had it.
 
mine was given on the inner part of my upper arm so the scar wouldn't show

ehhh.....zombie threads can be fun
 












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