What to do about a dog in a room...

I never really thought about any animals in the rooms, service animals or not. Scary to think what would happen to our vacation though when my throat swelled shut and I developed hives head to toe. I would definitely want to know, out of health courtesy, that the room was occupied by any type of animal. I wonder if there are certain rooms allocated? This thread brings up some very good points.
 
Agreed and to what extent and impact any extra cost might have on the dues structure. This is, of course, only information that DVC would possess.
DVC likely doesn't have this info to any degree either. IMO it's a given that there are extra costs and it's likely NO ONE knows the actual amount. I have a friend that has been the manager of a number of Marriott's over the years (both timeshares and hotels) and I've asked him this question among other similar ones, all he could do was venture a guess. The top option he felt that raised costs was the spring break type guests. IMO if it has ANY impact on fees, no matter how small, it is important.
 
Assuming that's true for DVC....
all he could do was venture a guess.

Then I'd say that's not as good of information management as they are capable of. Combining charges made directly for cleaning fees from "illegal" animals, and those fees which may have been imposed on damages caused by "legal" service animals should not be that hard to do.
 
Assuming that's true for DVC....


Then I'd say that's not as good of information management as they are capable of. Combining charges made directly for cleaning fees from "illegal" animals, and those fees which may have been imposed on damages caused by "legal" service animals should not be that hard to do.
Maybe I should have said there is a quantifiable component such as cleaning from known service animals and known illegal animals and a component one cannot easily quantify for all type of inappropriate uses including when pets are not known, room stuffing, smoking, etc. I'm sure they have a good idea on the quantifiable components and that the rest would be more cost than reasonable to try to estimate. What they could do would be to look at units over time where animals (both legal and known illegal) had been and estimate the difference in maint accordingly but this would likely take 2-3 refurbishment cycles to even get a rough idea assuming they put the time, work and manpower into tracking it. Still, we're discussing the amount of extra costs in such areas, that there are extra costs when animals is involved (legal and illegal, known or unknow) is a given.
 

I wouldn't hesitate to report it. I love my own pets, but I think it's gross to allow a pet to stay in a hotel room. The next guest might have a child in that room and I highly doubt that they shampoo the carpets every time. I also find it annoying when I see someone with a purse dog walking through a store etc.

If the animal is a service dog, that's another story and as mentioned if that is the case, then I'm sure Disney is already aware of it. I have seen small service dogs, including lap dogs. I know there's animals used for therapy as well as for people prone to seizures.
 
Just came back from Vero Beach where I saw a couple walking a Yorkshire Terrier (very small dog). I am a dog lover and owner for most of my life, but always had to kennel or get dog-sitters in past. There were some very interesting responses about service dogs and PTSD, etc, but my friends in the medical field are telling me that they are seeing some abuses with "service dogs". I wonder what people are buying these days. And I agree with those comments about allergies to dogs (know some) and where they do their business. As a DVC member, I am going to ask about this additional potential cost.
 
I have another comment about dogs in resorts. I have a younger sister that is HIGHLY allergic to dog dander. I had to give up a dog that I won because of that (she loves dogs). I gave her some days at disney and would be really freaked out if she had an allergic reaction to a room that had a dog in it - even for a short time - she is like radar about this. One of the "nicest things" about the Disney properties was that I "knew" (or thought I did) that I was not going to put my sister at risk. Now - I don't know. BTW - my wife is highly allergic to cats, and I deal with that on a daily basis. I do "worry" about health issues, because I have to. Don't blow me off by stating that ther are other things that I should be worrying about. I resent that.
 
We saw a service dog in the Main Street Confectionary last night. It was bothered from time to time from sudden noises. It was wearing a vest, but I wasn't sure what service the dog was performing. It must have been one of the less visible needs because all the guests with the dog appeared healthy. You just can't tell what the needs are by looking.
 
I wouldn't hesitate to report it. I love my own pets, but I think it's gross to allow a pet to stay in a hotel room. The next guest might have a child in that room and I highly doubt that they shampoo the carpets every time. I also find it annoying when I see someone with a purse dog walking through a store etc.

If the animal is a service dog, that's another story and as mentioned if that is the case, then I'm sure Disney is already aware of it. I have seen small service dogs, including lap dogs. I know there's animals used for therapy as well as for people prone to seizures.

Yes, there are small service dogs, usually for patients with seizures. We have a fundraiser going on locally for a young boy who has them multiple times per day. This type of service dog costs around $13,000! :eek:
 
We saw a service dog in the Main Street Confectionary last night. It was bothered from time to time from sudden noises. It was wearing a vest, but I wasn't sure what service the dog was performing. It must have been one of the less visible needs because all the guests with the dog appeared healthy. You just can't tell what the needs are by looking.

Perhaps the dog was in training?
 
Perhaps the dog was in training?

I was thinking the same thing. It was a smaller terrier-type dog. It didn't bark at all, but jumped everytime someone dropped something or suddenly came into the store. It appeared rather calm most of the time, though. And it was cute.
 
One of the girls in my college dorm required a service dog. When she would leave the dorms she would have him in a harness and a little coat on him denoting him as a service dog.

However, when she was just hanging out in the room, and the dog wasn't "working" he behaved much like any other dog. He didn't wear his coat, and he would just hang out in her room, and she would take him out in the courtyard for exercise.

Perhaps the dog in question was an off-duty service dog.

Service bogs are allowed everywhere. If folks have allergies to dogs that are so severe that it would have an impact on their vacation I would call the manager before checking in. If it is truly that severe their room might require extra cleaning.

Also, if i saw this I would not "tell on" anyone. I would assume that I didn't know the whole story, and would therefore mind my own business.
 
Also, if i saw this I would not "tell on" anyone. I would assume that I didn't know the whole story, and would therefore mind my own business.

Hey Schoen, can I call you Spartie? Thanks for your enlightened words! I have been watching this thread since the start and have gone back and forth about adding my two cents. I'm glad you said what I have been thinking.

I'll admit. I took a puppy to Disney. I stayed at AKL in a DVC studio. I am not disabled, nor do I need a service dog of any kind. :scared1:

Before anybody gets their blow torches out to start flaming, please let me explain. I'm from Michigan, home of the Leader Dogs for the Blind School. (Rochester Hills, MI) Lots of people from all over the country, but especially in Michigan, volunteer to open their home to a puppy and raise them for a year in prep for their training to help visually impaired, blind, or deaf-blind folks who yearn for a bit of independence. :love:

It's stressed that you expose your puppy to crowds, buses, trains, trams, and anything else that she might encounter later in her career. Luckily, those things are all in Disney, and I was ready for a vacation. But a vacation it was not! Although it slowed us down quite a bit, okay, a LOT, I appreciated the people kind enough to stop and ask us questions, meet our puppy, Camie, and also tell us about their dogs at home.

Reservations went smoothly, the DVC Reservations CM told me they would love to welcome Camie to the resort. Everyone was so kind that worked there. The one exception was a girl that worked on Dumbo - as Camie and I were boarding, she ran to me, knocking a little girl down on her way and not so discreetly told me that I wasn't allowed to bring a dog in the park. Wow. Did she think that I smuggled a 35-lb lab puppy under my t-shirt past security? :confused3

Maybe I am a little thin-skinned I suppose, and I although Camie was identified with a "Future Leader Dog" bandana, I got tons of dirty looks and comments as I walked by some people. I hope that they were just not informed. (Even the lady that down right yelled at me on the plane.) Oh, and then there was the mom that let her son walk right up to Camie and squirt his water gun point blank in her face.

I'm sure lots of people noticed Camie without her bandana on in our room, and the worst part was taking her bandana off when she need to take a (ahem) "break". It's a requirement in Leader Dog training that you take it off at that time. When they are full grown Leader Dogs and wearing their harnesses, they are not allowed to relieve themselves. Taking off the harness (or bandana) is a sign to the dog that it is okay to go. Can you imagine how many people would walk by us during those times and had to wonder what the heck that plain old dog was doing there at the resort....

Anyway, try to be patient with other people, maybe Schoen was right and you don't know the whole story. My family and I are trying to do the right thing and get involved in community service. It hurts when you know other people think you are breaking the rules. Just this week we were in Best Buy. I was in the return line when my husband walked in with our new puppy, Trooper. The lady in front of me snapped at the employee, "A guy just walked in here with a dog. Can you go do something about that?" He didn't even look up at her and said, "It's cool - he's a Leader Dog." I had to snicker a little! :lmao:

In case you're interested, here's a couple of pics of the two puppies we have had so far...We turned Camie back into the Leader Dog school in January, but here she is at the Magic Kingdom waiting to see Pluto in the parade.
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Here's our new puppy, Trooper, is now 14 weeks old. Not so sure we will attempt Disney with him, but might change our minds. Please say hello if you see him there!
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Always room for a little magic:wizard:. The Barbershop Quartet asked me if they could sing a song to Camie. Check out the video if you want to see what they came up with. That made my day. (I'm not so sure Camie felt the same)

 
Hey Schoen, can I call you Spartie? Thanks for your enlightened words! I have been watching this thread since the start and have gone back and forth about adding my two cents. I'm glad you said what I have been thinking.

I'll admit. I took a puppy to Disney. I stayed at AKL in a DVC studio. I am not disabled, nor do I need a service dog of any kind. :scared1:

Before anybody gets their blow torches out to start flaming, please let me explain. I'm from Michigan, home of the Leader Dogs for the Blind School. (Rochester Hills, MI) Lots of people from all over the country, but especially in Michigan, volunteer to open their home to a puppy and raise them for a year in prep for their training to help visually impaired, blind, or deaf-blind folks who yearn for a bit of independence. :love:

It's stressed that you expose your puppy to crowds, buses, trains, trams, and anything else that she might encounter later in her career. Luckily, those things are all in Disney, and I was ready for a vacation. But a vacation it was not! Although it slowed us down quite a bit, okay, a LOT, I appreciated the people kind enough to stop and ask us questions, meet our puppy, Camie, and also tell us about their dogs at home.

Reservations went smoothly, the DVC Reservations CM told me they would love to welcome Camie to the resort. Everyone was so kind that worked there. The one exception was a girl that worked on Dumbo - as Camie and I were boarding, she ran to me, knocking a little girl down on her way and not so discreetly told me that I wasn't allowed to bring a dog in the park. Wow. Did she think that I smuggled a 35-lb lab puppy under my t-shirt past security? :confused3

Maybe I am a little thin-skinned I suppose, and I although Camie was identified with a "Future Leader Dog" bandana, I got tons of dirty looks and comments as I walked by some people. I hope that they were just not informed. (Even the lady that down right yelled at me on the plane.) Oh, and then there was the mom that let her son walk right up to Camie and squirt his water gun point blank in her face.

I'm sure lots of people noticed Camie without her bandana on in our room, and the worst part was taking her bandana off when she need to take a (ahem) "break". It's a requirement in Leader Dog training that you take it off at that time. When they are full grown Leader Dogs and wearing their harnesses, they are not allowed to relieve themselves. Taking off the harness (or bandana) is a sign to the dog that it is okay to go. Can you imagine how many people would walk by us during those times and had to wonder what the heck that plain old dog was doing there at the resort....

Anyway, try to be patient with other people, maybe Schoen was right and you don't know the whole story. My family and I are trying to do the right thing and get involved in community service. It hurts when you know other people think you are breaking the rules. Just this week we were in Best Buy. I was in the return line when my husband walked in with our new puppy, Trooper. The lady in front of me snapped at the employee, "A guy just walked in here with a dog. Can you go do something about that?" He didn't even look up at her and said, "It's cool - he's a Leader Dog." I had to snicker a little! :lmao:

In case you're interested, here's a couple of pics of the two puppies we have had so far...We turned Camie back into the Leader Dog school in January, but here she is at the Magic Kingdom waiting to see Pluto in the parade.
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Here's our new puppy, Trooper, is now 14 weeks old. Not so sure we will attempt Disney with him, but might change our minds. Please say hello if you see him there!
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Always room for a little magic:wizard:. The Barbershop Quartet asked me if they could sing a song to Camie. Check out the video if you want to see what they came up with. That made my day. (I'm not so sure Camie felt the same)


Thank you, thank you, thank you! I have always admired people who will take service puppies and do the "pre" training with them! It's not an easy thing to take and raise and spend so much time and energy training a puppy only to have it leave you when it comes of age. I have had several friends do the same thing, and I know one of the people who runs a service dog center here in Minnesota. I think those of you doing what you do are saints!
 
Hey Schoen, can I call you Spartie? Thanks for your enlightened words! I have been watching this thread since the start and have gone back and forth about adding my two cents. I'm glad you said what I have been thinking.

I'll admit. I took a puppy to Disney. I stayed at AKL in a DVC studio. I am not disabled, nor do I need a service dog of any kind. :scared1:

Before anybody gets their blow torches out to start flaming, please let me explain. I'm from Michigan, home of the Leader Dogs for the Blind School. (Rochester Hills, MI) Lots of people from all over the country, but especially in Michigan, volunteer to open their home to a puppy and raise them for a year in prep for their training to help visually impaired, blind, or deaf-blind folks who yearn for a bit of independence. :love:

It's stressed that you expose your puppy to crowds, buses, trains, trams, and anything else that she might encounter later in her career. Luckily, those things are all in Disney, and I was ready for a vacation. But a vacation it was not! Although it slowed us down quite a bit, okay, a LOT, I appreciated the people kind enough to stop and ask us questions, meet our puppy, Camie, and also tell us about their dogs at home.

Reservations went smoothly, the DVC Reservations CM told me they would love to welcome Camie to the resort. Everyone was so kind that worked there. The one exception was a girl that worked on Dumbo - as Camie and I were boarding, she ran to me, knocking a little girl down on her way and not so discreetly told me that I wasn't allowed to bring a dog in the park. Wow. Did she think that I smuggled a 35-lb lab puppy under my t-shirt past security? :confused3

Maybe I am a little thin-skinned I suppose, and I although Camie was identified with a "Future Leader Dog" bandana, I got tons of dirty looks and comments as I walked by some people. I hope that they were just not informed. (Even the lady that down right yelled at me on the plane.) Oh, and then there was the mom that let her son walk right up to Camie and squirt his water gun point blank in her face.

I'm sure lots of people noticed Camie without her bandana on in our room, and the worst part was taking her bandana off when she need to take a (ahem) "break". It's a requirement in Leader Dog training that you take it off at that time. When they are full grown Leader Dogs and wearing their harnesses, they are not allowed to relieve themselves. Taking off the harness (or bandana) is a sign to the dog that it is okay to go. Can you imagine how many people would walk by us during those times and had to wonder what the heck that plain old dog was doing there at the resort....

Anyway, try to be patient with other people, maybe Schoen was right and you don't know the whole story. My family and I are trying to do the right thing and get involved in community service. It hurts when you know other people think you are breaking the rules. Just this week we were in Best Buy. I was in the return line when my husband walked in with our new puppy, Trooper. The lady in front of me snapped at the employee, "A guy just walked in here with a dog. Can you go do something about that?" He didn't even look up at her and said, "It's cool - he's a Leader Dog." I had to snicker a little! :lmao:

I think some of the hostility may come from the terminology used by the organization. If the bandannas read "service dog in training", rather than "future leader dog" people may have understood better. I personally have never heard the term "leader dog." And the way the bandannas are worded, we see lot of "cutesy" T-shirts on kids, like "Future Cast Member", or "Future World Leader", etc.
 
Sorry but its not my job to police disney policy. I mind my own business. Where I'm from you DON'T stick your nose in other people's business. Now if the animal was doing damage send them a bill. I'm on vacation I don't want anyone sticking there nose in my business and im sure not going to stick mine in yours.
 
Sorry but its not my job to police disney policy. I mind my own business. Where I'm from you DON'T stick your nose in other people's business. Now if the animal was doing damage send them a bill. I'm on vacation I don't want anyone sticking there nose in my business and im sure not going to stick mine in yours.

Beating the dead horse.

It is my business. I own that resort. I pay my hard earned $'s for that resort. The minute your business effects my business it is now my business and I will stick my nose in it.
 
I think some of the hostility may come from the terminology used by the organization. If the bandannas read "service dog in training", rather than "future leader dog" people may have understood better. I personally have never heard the term "leader dog." And the way the bandannas are worded, we see lot of "cutesy" T-shirts on kids, like "Future Cast Member", or "Future World Leader", etc.

Get over the semantics. Not all puppies who go through the "future leader dog" program actually become leader dogs. That wont be known until they get past that puppy training stage and enter the true training stage. THEN they become a true leader in training. It takes about 3 years to produce a good leader dog, and what those people do with the puppies is help to desensitize them to the things that go on in the world they are being trained to handle. Basically, that puppy is being trained to ignore the things it might otherwise be fearful or cautious of. The bandana is there to alert others that this is NOT a dog to pet. In fact, many wear vests saying not to touch unless given permission.
 
I think some of the hostility may come from the terminology used by the organization. If the bandannas read "service dog in training", rather than "future leader dog" people may have understood better. I personally have never heard the term "leader dog." And the way the bandannas are worded, we see lot of "cutesy" T-shirts on kids, like "Future Cast Member", or "Future World Leader", etc.

I can't agree more. Although Leader Dogs are in 49 states (not Hawaii :confused3) and 39 countries, it seems once we step off of Michigan soil, there isn't a lot of familiarity. That was a lesson learned the hard way. I wish the bandana would explain more, but I still think people react before they read. I joked that I wanted to wear a t-shirt at Disney with the answers to some of the commonly asked questions. When the puppies get bigger, they can wear a vest that looks a little more "official". Still not sure if I would have put it on her in April as it was quite hot.
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Not sure how to quote two different people, but to DianeSchlicht, thank you for the kind words. We love the whole year except for the day we have to turn in the puppy. I told myself I wouldn't fall in love with Trooper, but it's too late.:love: I know it's tough to say goodbye to the dogs, but how does a foster parent say goodbye to a child? That must be a million times harder. Those people are the true heroes!!

And Shoen, aka Spartie, if you are reading, I meant to put in my first post congratulations on your most excellent run for the NCAA championship! All of us Wolverines were rooting for the Sparties!! :dance3:
 
i don't think any humane human ;) would be bothered by a service dog, or a service dog in training. if the
but there are a growing number of people who bring their dogs where they aren't allowed, despite knowing the rules/law. i'm sure we've all seen many, many lap dogs in strollers, handbags, running around in malls, etc despite signs saying non-service animals prohibited - not one wearing any indication whatsoever that they are a service animal. just recently, i watched a women take her lap dog out of its stroller, let it run around a clothing store until it peed on the floor, then proceed to try on about 10 kids' tshirts on the animal (the t's were removed and damaged out).
i agree that there are many other things, children, smoking, piggy adults, drunks, that do things to a room that require additional maintainence and/or repairs. none of those are morally right - and there isn't a contest to see which of the wrongs is the least wrong:confused3

thank you stitch'sgirl for being a foster family!! if/when we retire, it's something we would love to do (for now, we just try to volunteer at the facility occassionally, and take care of our 1 dog, 3 cats, and the feral cat and her 3 kittens we just found living in our yard :scared1:).
it's wonderful work you do, especially being willling to go through that heartbreak each time knowing it is for a greater good :grouphug:
 



















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