Is anyone following the Karen Read trial?

[happily single]

This is relatively close to me. I’m not really following closely. I remember at the first trial there being evidence presented that someone had Ring camera footage of her SUV after the event and her tail lights were intact. Does anyone else remember this?

 

[WEDWDW]

To believe the conspiracy I have to believe the taillights fragments were planted.

To believe she intentionally hit him,I have to believe she was "acting" on the voice mails.

Both are too high hurdles for me.

And I also think when she said "I hit him",she had just then realized that was probably what happened the night before.

It wasn't an admission of premeditation.

 

[barkley]

I watched the docu-series but have not been following the retrial. I was following lori vallow daybell's most recent trial and reading the daily live updates from the courtroom-WOOOH! that judge should have gotten paid double for everything they had to deal with due to her representing herself (she's also representing herself on the appeal). i will follow her next trial which starts at the end of May (again-she is serving as her own lawyer).

we also get almost daily updates on brian kohlberger b/c of our fairly close proximity to the murders-jury selection is supposed to start July 30th. it's a case I will follow as well.

 

[_19disnA]

No idea who this was until I saw the post here. If some re-trial is still going on, not sure what you accomplish watching/reading every day. As others have mentioned, the different lawyers will want to present evidence in a way that suits their purpose. If you watch any other court-room type shows, cross-examination often uncovers parts of the story the others side conveniently left out or tried to twist the testimony to get a different outcome. You don't have the whole story until all of the testimony is presented.

 

[HeatherC]

I have been following both trials. Unfortunately, I don’t think they will ever know for sure what happened. The investigation was severely flawed from day one. Whether she did hit him or not, there are just SO many things that lead up to reasonable doubt that I can’t see how a jury could convict her. Or at least I couldn’t if I were on the jury.

Just the fact that the lead investigator has been fired over this leads to doubt. How can anyone trust the investigation was handled properly? Witnesses have been caught in outright lying, evidence doesn’t match his injuries, etc..

I also personally believe all the people involved are as sleazy as they come. These people are all part of an old school “townie group” and I definitely think they have covered each others butts since day one.

Lastly, the fact that the judge herself has ties to these people and refused to recuse herself makes it even more bizarre. You would think just to maintain propriety she would have recused herself but she didn’t.

The whole case is like a bad reality show and it will be interesting to see how it all ends.

 

[Lucys dad]

Can’t help but feel that her name being ‘Karen’ is absolute gold for the media. Also, the local police seem to have some of the most incompetent and unprofessional officers going If I was a decent burglar I’d be moving there for sure.

 

[Lucys dad]

I have been following both trials. Unfortunately, I don’t think they will ever know for sure what happened. The investigation was severely flawed from day one. Whether she did hit him or not, there are just SO many things that lead up to reasonable doubt that I can’t see how a jury could convict her. Or at least I couldn’t if I were on the jury.

Just the fact that the lead investigator has been fired over this leads to doubt. How can anyone trust the investigation was handled properly? Witnesses have been caught in outright lying, evidence doesn’t match his injuries, etc..

I also personally believe all the people involved are as sleazy as they come. These people are all part of an old school “townie group” and I definitely think they have covered each others butts since day one.

Lastly, the fact that the judge herself has ties to these people and refused to recuse herself makes it even more bizarre. You would think just to maintain propriety she would have recused herself but she didn’t.

The whole case is like a bad reality show and it will be interesting to see how it all ends.

Bad reality show indeed. I’m in Scotland and find the whole trial by media in the US incredible. We’ve got our own problems of course but jeezo

 

[Lucys dad]

6 part Netflix drama / documentary by Christmas

 

[Lucys dad]

Yes, the injuries are definitely odd. He had multiple skull fractures, and the injury to his arm that the Defense is going to try and say is a dog bite. The State's theory is she hit him while reversing at 26 miles an hour, presumably hit him in that arm...then the taillight shatters and rips his shirt and punctures/tears his arm. He then falls backward and slams his head into the ground. But...I believe they found him on his stomach. Perhaps he wasn't knocked out cold and tried to turn over and try to crawl away, and then passed out, and died from the head injury and hypothermia. That's the state's theory anyway.

I wonder how....if she hit him that hard in the arm and knocked him back, how are there no other broken bones, particularly that arm? It's puzzling for sure. But I've never heard that she ran over him multiple times. That would have broken bones for sure. I was pulled down by a big dog once in the winter. It was icy, and the ground was frozen solid. He pulled, and I held on to the leash, arm stretched out and went down on my right side. Just that impact with the ground cracked two ribs. I don't know how he has no other broken bones.

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