What is your direct/resale percentage breakdown?

[gleddo]

63% direct BWV & VB
37% resale BLT
722 total points

 

[DanCali]

I tried to explain it through these^ examples. Right now DVD allows stays booked on resale points to qualify for early MM registration. That is not because it is entirely grandfathered, and they can change it if they see fit. I bought BW resale after 2020. Currently I can use that booking to qualify for MM but DVD has every right to take that away. Today I can book Wicked Wind Down on a stay with my BW resale, but that too - DVD can decide to change the way to qualify for that perk and exclude my ability to book with my 2020 resale.

The exchange example has already been disqualified for almost 15yrs. The point I was trying to make there was a perk that I thought would never matter to me could end up mattering as DVD continues to change and tweak the perk package.

When it comes to how DVD offers Membership Extras, they get to choose. Obviously grandfathered resale is different. But the blue card perks that DVD is letting me access with my 2020 resale can absolutely be cut off. They can offer a fantastic 4-6 day ticket deal that only qualifies for stays with Direct or pre-2016 resale.

The trajectory is DVD tightening the differences between direct and resale. Overall, changes continue in that direction. And we’re talking about an ownership of decades. Adding another 150pts to our membership - If I bought that resale, I’d have 200pts unqualified points and 150pts direct. For every perk they tie directly to usage of my direct points, more than half the time I would not qualify. That could be a pita down the line because I do enjoy using the perks.

It’s this aspect and the ability to trade into everywhere for decades that I keep in mind.

That a lot of "they coulds" - and things which would alienate owners.

In the case of MM and Wicked Wind Down for example, it seems like they already made the decision that it's your blue card that matters, not how you booked the stay. I see no reason why they need to complicate things.

When buying direct, the only thing that's pretty certain is that you are paying ~$200/pt for something worth ~$110-$150 (and maybe less once we add CFW into the mix) if you turn around to sell it 10 days later. I can see doing that one time for the blue card perks, but would you do that with a stock if you had the perfect foresight to see the price 10 days down the road? And if you don't ever sell it, then it will eventually expire worthless at $0, so to me that provides an incentive to pay as little as possible up front.

If anything, what you are suggesting does exactly the opposite for me. Why would I pay more to a corporation if it is possibly on a path to devalue its product intentionally as much as possible?

 

[radiodome21]

100% Direct. 150 @ VGF & 100 @ Poly. Will add on again to even it out ( 2 kids). We just finished our first runDisney race this past weekend and had such a blast that we want to do one a year. Preferably in the Spring. We stayed at BRV and loved it so CCV is now in play. But I’m good for the time being.

 

[Brian Noble]

I see no reason why they need to complicate things.

I don’t think they are going to.

But “keep things simple for current owners” is not one of DVD’s primary goals. The primary goal is “sell more points.”

If they think something will help them sell more points, then it is on the table.

 

[intamin]

49.5% Direct
50.5% Resale

Even if I add more points my intent is to be around 50/50.

This is our sweet spot. I still enjoy the O14 and want the value that comes with resale but I also like the new resorts like RIV and don't want to worry about not being able to book those resorts whenever I want.

 

[kgou]

50/50

First bought resale, then got direct at VGF during the sale a few years ago, 150 each. Would probably stick with resale if adding on.

This is me too. 50% direct, 50% resale. If/when I add on it will be resale. The VGF fire sale was too good to pass up, and unless something like that comes along again I don't foresee buying direct again.

 

[Sondra Sunflowers]

50/50 160 direct SSR and 160 resale Aulani. Would like to add more SSR for retirement, but will buy those resale because it makes the most financial sense.

 

[davidhr]

This is our sweet spot. I still enjoy the O14 and want the value that comes with resale but I also like the new resorts like RIV and don't want to worry about not being able to book those resorts whenever I want.

I love the savings I got from resale. But I must admit that at this very specific moment I’m slightly annoyed I won’t be able to book the 1BR Riviera room I want for December in a few weeks. I have the points, but half are resale.

First world problem that happened this year due to how I booked my early trips and added a resale contract a few months ago.

 

[LadybugsMum]

31% direct
69% resale

150 pts direct VGF, 120 pts resale VGF
215 pts resale BWV broken out as 85 pts and 130 pts. I was not about to buy BWV direct with only 20 years left; so I went resale for those contracts.

 

[Tumnus]

Once my contract clears:

33% Direct
67% Resale

150 direct poly, 150 resale BLT, 160 resale SSR

Ultimately would like it to be 50/50 with another direct if there is a fire sale like the VGF I missed out on.

 

[tomandrobin]

But “keep things simple for current owners” is not one of DVD’s primary goals. The primary goal is “sell more points.”

If they think something will help them sell more points, then it is on the table.

Correct! And to add, increase profits to Disney. Hence the introduction of restrictions on all new build resorts. among other things introduced by DVC over the past 10 years.