What is wrong with Disers lately?

[Queen2PrincessG]

Ok First you are wrong, the military DOES not protect my rights to say what i want to say. The Constitution does that. No one is fighting for my freedom. I am free since 1865!

Think about the countries we've intervened? Those countries didn't attack us, outcast of their society did. China and Iran both have a LARGE military but if you live there your internet and freedom of speech is very much limited.

The idea that military protects our freedom to speak is wrong the US military primarily goes to other countries and spreads the US idea of freedom to them.

So explain to me how our military is the reason I can speak freely?

 

[Bonnie40]

The correct term is In other words

Just because you like "another words" doesnt make it correct-ok?

Feel better now? Really? Sheesh!

 

[happygirl]

Ok First you are wrong, the military DOES not protect my rights to say what i want to say. The Constitution does that. No one is fighting for my freedom. I am free since 1865!

Think about the countries we've intervened? Those countries didn't attack us, outcast of their society did. Japan and China both have a LARGE military but if you live there your internet and freedom of speech is very much limited.

The idea that military protects our freedom to speak is wrong the US military primarily goes to other countries and spreads the US idea of freedom to them.

So explain to me how our military is the reason I can speak freely?

What keeps IRAN and IRAQ from taking us over and making this country a dictatorship THE MILITARY

 

[Magic Mom]

Ok First you are wrong, the military DOES not protect my rights to say what i want to say. The Constitution does that. No one is fighting for my freedom. I am free since 1865!

Think about the countries we've intervened? Those countries didn't attack us, outcast of their society did. Japan and China both have a LARGE military but if you live there your internet and freedom of speech is very much limited.

The idea that military protects our freedom to speak is wrong the US military primarily goes to other countries and spreads the US idea of freedom to them.

So explain to me how our military is the reason I can speak freely?

You are wrong. Period.

 

[badblackpug]

A thread like this pops up every couple of months. ...and seriously? This is one of the more polite, and most moderated boards on the internet.

The issues here are a few.

1) You cannot judge tone or inflection in a post. People often misunderstand what the writer is trying to say.

2) Many people think that just because you disagree with them you are "attacking" them.

3) Many people see any opinion that differs from theirs as "wrong" not just different.

4) Many people do not know how to debate, or have a discussion. When someone disagrees with them instead of just moving on or discussing/debating it, they lower themselves to personal attacks.

5) Posts are not meant as incontrovertible facts, it is implied and understood, that most of what someone posts is their opinion.

6) If you ask for opinions, expect to get them, even if they differ from yours. Do not ask for opinions if you only want support of your point of view.

7) This is a public message board. If you put info out there expect people to comment on it. It may not be what you consider polite or sensitive, it may not be what you want to hear, if it is a subject that is too sensitive for you, then don't discuss it with strangers.

 

[luvsJack]

Ok First you are wrong, the military DOES not protect my rights to say what i want to say. The Constitution does that. No one is fighting for my freedom. I am free since 1865!

Think about the countries we've intervened? Those countries didn't attack us, outcast of their society did. Japan and China both have a LARGE military but if you live there your internet and freedom of speech is very much limited.

The idea that military protects our freedom to speak is wrong the US military primarily goes to other countries and spreads the US idea of freedom to them.

So explain to me how our military is the reason I can speak freely?

The freedoms given to us are spelled out in the Constitution, which would not exist if wars had not been fought and those wars were won by the men brave enough to fight them.

The military exists to protect those freedoms spelled out in the Constitution.

Japan DID attack us, BTW, so would you have preferred we just lay down and take it and now have the same "freedoms" they have?

And the men and women in uniform do not choose where they go, they follow orders.

Let me tell you something else about your lack of respect. The next time you live through a disaster, and the man or woman that comes to rescue you and dig you out of the earthquake, the flood or the devastation of a hurricane--chances are they are National Guard and they have left their OWN family under those same conditions to help YOU. So don't tell me they don't deserve the respect of the people they serve.

 

[Plannin'Shannon]

7) This is a public message board. If you put info out there expect people to comment on it. It may not be what you consider polite or sensitive, it may not be what you want to hear, if it is a subject that is to sensitive for you, then don't discuss it with strangers.

Bingo. I completely avoided that half-mast thread once I saw the direction it was taking because the subject matter hits too close to home. Just as I don't discuss it with strangers IRL, I don't discuss it with strangers here. It's my responsibility to step away when a subject is too sensitive for me; it's my responsibility to just roll my eyes and hit the back button.

 

[Bonnie40]

The freedoms given to us are spelled out in the Constitution, which would not exist if wars had not been fought and those wars were won by the men brave enough to fight them.

The military exists to protect those freedoms spelled out in the Constitution.

Japan DID attack us, BTW, so would you have preferred we just lay down and take it and now have the same "freedoms" they have?

And the men and women in uniform do not choose where they go, they follow orders.

Let me tell you something else about your lack of respect. The next time you live through a disaster, and the man or woman that comes to rescue you and dig you out of the earthquake, the flood or the devastation of a hurricane--chances are they are National Guard and they have left their OWN family under those same conditions to help YOU. So don't tell me they don't deserve the respect of the people they serve.

Well said....

 

[schumigirl]

While I know MANY MANY people here find military careers as highly respectable, I do not. It's not a big deal everyone has things they respect and don't respect. We can't all love the same things. Let's move on because we will NEVER see eye to eye on this point.

WOW

That is one of the saddest things I have ever read on here.

You don`t respect the military? I can`t even begin to understand that statement!! I still have so much respect and admiration and very many thanks for the soldiers and allies who fought in the last 2 world wars....and very definately fought for OUR freedom.

I don`t think the military expect you to love them.....but I would say Respect is the very minimum we owe them.

If we didn`t have the military to defend us there would be nothing to stop countries who despise everything about the freedom we have trying to invade or attack us.

I don`t comment much over here but that has really shocked me.

Who do you respect then.....just out of curiosity.

 

[Bonnie40]

Bingo. I completely avoided that half-mast thread once I saw the direction it was taking because the subject matter hits too close to home. Just as I don't discuss it with strangers IRL, I don't discuss it with strangers here. It's my responsibility to step away when a subject is too sensitive for me; it's my responsibility to just roll my eyes and hit the back button.

I agree....and I'm sure that's why the OP hasn't returned. In a moment of frustration and sadness, she started that thread, never thinking it was going to turn into a train wreck.

That's also why I 'lurk' rather than post. Safer that way.....

 

[LORI522]

To be fair if you sign up to be in the military you should know that you are now elevated to have PTSS, suicidally, anxiety, anger management issues among other things and that you will probably not get the help you really need.

While I know MANY MANY people here find military careers as highly respectable, I do not. It's not a big deal everyone has things they respect and don't respect.

I rarely post, but I just can't let this go....

You are very fortunate that there are people willing to take the risks of being a soldier. Because if they didn't, then the US would have to reinstate the draft. Which mean YOU, or your spouse, or your CHILD might be forced to take one of those "careers you don't respect". And it won't matter if you agree with your job or not...you will do it or go to prison.

 

[Scurvy]

I read that thread. She really didn't make fun of you. Yes, she corrected your phrasing ( and I think she was right) but she didn't mock you or imply that you were stupid. I think maybe you were being overly sensitive.

If you and she had been arguing and she said "Well who would listen to someone that says' another words,' then that would have been derogatory, but she just casually pointed out a mistake.

I agree.

I have a friend who used to say the phrase "intensive purposes" and had no idea that it was really supposed to be "intents and purposes" instead. She apparently said - and wrote - it that way for years before someone finally told her she was wrong. She was embarrassed and upset, but not because someone corrected her. She was upset that she had been wrong for all those years before someone bothered to tell her the real phrase. She said she wished someone had spoken up before to spare her years of sounding foolish.

On the other hand, my husband had a former boss who repeatedly said "mute point" and other ridiculous, made-up words and phrases. No one ever corrected him, as far as I know. The people who worked for him thought he sounded ridiculous and when he was making presentations to those above him you could see that they were amused or uncomfortable because of it. He was a jerk and always thought he was right and wouldn't have taken well to being corrected. He was let go long ago but people still joke about all his weird phrases and I doubt that anyone will ever tell him the right words and phrases. Everyone definitely took him less seriously because of the way he talked.

I think there's a nice way and a mean way to correct someone and there are some threads where you just shouldn't do it. If someone uses a phrase wrong on a thread where they are posting about a personal tragedy, that's probably not the place to correct them. In general, though, I think it's kind to let someone know when they are misusing a word or phrase so they won't continue to do it in the future. I believe most people will be appreciative, even though you'll get the occasional person who knows better than everyone else and doesn't care about using phrases that other people will actually understand.

 

[KathyTX]

I'm closing this because of the political direction some have taken it in.

Most of the members here have been very respectful and thoughtful in their responses, but a few seem to enjoy arguing and pushing emotional buttons to watch the fallout. That's the very definition of "troll".

My recommendation is that we all just ignore rather than respond to those comments designed to create chaos and controversy, they seem to die quickly on their own if not fed.

 

[brettcw23]

I'm still "earning my ears" but I've already taken advantage of the ignore user function.

That's a great tool to use!