What is the best way to find a new home for a dog?

[Momvic5]

You can do both you know.

What if you had two children and one of them had a "condition" that made them more aggressive and there was the potential for them to hurt the other child. Do you "get rid of" them?

My children will never be compared to my pets. Human life is far more precious. It is scary to me that you would even ask such a question.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Before you judge, please read my very long post. It is very clear that people do not want to take the time to read the entire story. Yes, I should have written it in my first post but as I said, I was in a hurry and just wanted to ask for advice. When I had time, I took the time to write out the entire issue. So before you jump all over me, please at least take a moment to skim the thing over. At least read a little further than the first post.

Kristine

If you are referring to me - I read the whole thread and thought long and hard before I posted.

These types of threads make me very sad.

I know you don't want to hear it and think people are "judging" you now.

It is a discussion board and people are free to post their opinions.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Assuming I did, you have 2 dogs that are high energy/high maintenance. A sporting dog and a herding dog. They need training. They need exercise. And not just for a period of time. They need exercise everyday and training all their lives.

But the situation is fixable and from what you've described the dog does not get enough exercise and has very clear triggers. Work on avoiding the triggers, try some positive training, using crates and tether your dog to you. Take the dogs to a field and run their butts off. You have a million different options to try.

Do you honestly think you have done everything you can to help this dog be a good dog?

Right again.

 

[SundaeAfternoon]

My children will never be compared to my pets. Human life is far more precious. It is scary to me that you would even ask such a question.

All life is precious. It's scary to me that you think only humans are important.

 

[DizBelle]

It seems that the moral of this story is that if you are not going to value your pets, please don't get any.

 

[Momvic5]

All life is precious. It's scary to me that you think only humans are important.

I never said only human life is important. I just believe that my children are far more precious than any dog or animal.

 

[ckay87]

All life is precious. It's scary to me that you think only humans are important.

Many many many people feel that way, to varying degrees. Ask the Amish about their puppy farming, as an extreme example or my relative who won't let their dog in the house because he's too hairy. It IS hard for other people who feel, as you said, that *all* life is precious. But it's a fact of life, people will always feel this way.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Many many many people feel that way, to varying degrees. Ask the Amish about their puppy farming, as an extreme example or my relative who won't let their dog in the house because he's too hairy. It IS hard for other people who feel, as you said, that *all* life is precious. But it's a fact of life, people will always feel this way.

No one on here said only human life is important.

 

[kidshop]

It seems that the moral of this story is that if you are not going to value your pets, please don't get any.

Define 'value'? Keeping an aggressive pet around children, whom it could HARM; is no solution. Would you rather she crate the baby and let the dog be free so it's gets it's full serving of 'value' it deserves according to your definition? What value is assigned to the kids?

Dogs and humans are not equal, and it is frightening that keeping a pet that could attack your child is considered normal and expected! But we see those stories on the news a lot. Do you think 'what good dog parents' when you see the stories of attacks? B/c I think 'how could they leave a precious child around that animal?'.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Define 'value'? Keeping an aggressive pet around children, whom it could HARM; is no solution. Would you rather she crate the baby and let the dog be free so it's gets it's full serving of 'value' it deserves according to your definition? What value is assigned to the kids?

Dogs and humans are not equal, and it is frightening that keeping a pet that could attack your child is considered normal and expected! But we see those stories on the news a lot. Do you think 'what good dog parents' when you see the stories of attacks? B/c I think 'how could they leave a precious child around that animal?'.

Any pet could harm.

As can ATVs, swimming pools, caustic chemicals, trampolines, etc.

I don't see people rushing out to get rid of these because they "could harm".

"Could harm" is taking a big leap.

 

[kidshop]

Any pet could harm.

As can ATVs, swimming pools, caustic chemicals, trampolines, etc.

I don't see people rushing out to get rid of these because they "could harm".

"Could harm" is taking a big leap.

The Op is qualified to decide if her pet is a threat to her child. You are not.

If you want to keep a snappy aggressive dog around your baby, go for it. the OP does not and that shows she has intelligence and foresight to prevent an attack on her child. A person who values their baby over the (known aggressive) dog is what is generally known as 'a good parent'.


I would not allow my child on an ATV or around caustic chemicals. ? Trampolines and pools have supervision and rules to follow or they would not be allowed to do that either. I would not allow my kids around a known aggressive animal at all or be unsupervised with even gentle family pets. They are still young and you do not know how any animal will react, as you pointed out. I would choose to err in favor of the baby.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I would not allow my child on an ATV or around caustic chemicals. ? Trampolines and pools have supervision and rules to follow or they would not be allowed to do that either.

Exactly the point. Thank you.

 

[airhead]

Wondered when you would show up......good to see you here.

All dogs, every single breed (and it's usually those purebred dogs that go nuts) has the ability to go 'over the edge'. Why? Because many breeders are not breeding for the right reasons...betterment of the breed. They are breeding to get puppies, puppies to sell.
My breeder, one I found at a regional dog show, actually interviewed me, while I thought I was interviewing her!!! Too funny. I wanted a little girl golden, but when the pups were born, and started growing, the breeder called me and told me she had the perfect dog for me...except it wasn't a girl. She wanted me to agree to take him because he was a bit more assertive than the other dogs. Actually, she wanted to keep him to show and breed but he had an undescended testicle which would have been a huge issue. She knew how I handled dogs, that I had had a 'stubborn' golden before..she thought it would be a good fit. And it has been. He tried to be the boss, but that doesn't go far.
My point in this probably boring story is that a good breeder looks at many things before breeding. A 'backyard' breeder looks at getting a male for their female so they can make puppies....to sell. Yes, they are purebred but who knows what the medical backgrounds are. When these 'breeders' are mating those two dogs, they aren't looking at any undesirable traits that could be passed down. So...it's going to be pretty similar to when all those English kings and queens and various royalty kept marrying family members...nothing to dilute bad traits, so madness ensued......a lot!

Same thing thing happens with dog breeding. Lots of inbreeding creates a lot of troubles within a breed. Cockers had this issue...most popular breeds do.
Also, when you buy from a good breeder, they will usually put something into the contract about taking the dog back, at any point, for any reason. I know that if my golden had an issue that made it impossible for me to keep him, his breeder would take him in a heartbeat.

I know, I know. None of this really helps the OP. But, it may help someone who is thinking about getting a dog but doesn't want to run into the same issues down the road.

I try to stay clear of any dog topic... LOL


Good info here. Pet people(in my world,there are "pet people" and "show people") don't always "get" what bad breeding produces.

 

[Bob NC]

Any pet could harm.

As can ATVs, swimming pools, caustic chemicals, trampolines, etc.

I don't see people rushing out to get rid of these because they "could harm".

"Could harm" is taking a big leap.

I honestly have never heard of a trampoline or swimming pool chasing a toddler around the house.

 

[npmommie]

I honestly have never heard of a trampoline or swimming pool chasing a toddler around the house.

but we have heard of unsupervised toddlers falling in swimming pools?

 

[amg35]

I honestly have never heard of a trampoline or swimming pool chasing a toddler around the house.

Is her dog chasing her toddler around the house?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I honestly have never heard of a trampoline or swimming pool chasing a toddler around the house.

Play with words if you want.

You know as well as I do that accidental drownings, poisonings and the like are as big a factor for child safety as pets are.

Common sense are required for all.

A friend of mine was bitten pretty severely by a chocolate lab the other day. And neither was chasing the other around the house.

It happens. That's why common sense and supervision are required around all the things I listed.

The dog in this case being allowed on the couch to growl is an indication the rules are not being followed.

And sadly, the dog is going to be either rehomed or lose his life because of it.

The OP has every right to do this if she wants. It's just sad to many of us that it likely could have been avoided.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Instead of a training and educational issue, many people prefer to make this a "human vs animal" debate.

The latter *is* a lot easier.

Training and education take time and effort.

The "people come first" argument allows swift and guilt free action.

 

[npmommie]

Play with words if you want.

You know as well as I do that accidental drownings, poisonings and the like are as big a factor for child safety as pets are.

Common sense are required for all.

A friend of mine was bitten pretty severely by a chocolate lab the other day. And neither was chasing the other around the house.

It happens. That's why common sense and supervision is required around all the things I listed.

The dog in this case being allowed on the couch to growl is an indication the rules are not being followed.

And sadly, the dog is going to be either rehomed or lose his life because of it.

The OP has every right to do this if she wants. It's just sad to many of us that it likely could have been avoided.

exactly

 

[kidshop]

Play with words if you want.

You know as well as I do that accidental drownings, poisonings and the like are as big a factor for child safety as pets are.

Common sense are required for all.

A friend of mine was bitten pretty severely by a chocolate lab the other day. And neither was chasing the other around the house.

It happens. That's why common sense and supervision is required around all the things I listed.

The dog in this case being allowed on the couch to growl is an indication the rules are not being followed.

And sadly, the dog is going to be either rehomed or lose his life because of it.

The OP has every right to do this if she wants. It's just sad to many of us that it likely could have been avoided.

I agree with you, but a known aggressive animal is too big of a risk to take with a baby around. Are you ok with keeping the dog away from the family in another room or a crate in the name of not re-homing him? A baby plays on the floor so whom is kept away from whom on a regular daily basis?