What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[WillAustin]

I'm not defending any bullies or scam artists. I'm merely pointing out that most of the time you don't really know who you are dealing with when somebody tries to get by.

The onus is on the person or people returning to the line to be polite, explain the situation, and be gracious for any accommodation given by the others in line.

 

[pouncingpluto]

Most of the time it's either fine or a bit annoying but I let it slide. I get really mad when it is 4 or 5 people (and often in these situations it is 2 or 3, then another 2 or 3, then another 2 or 3) who appear to be part of a large group (like a school band) and who just happen to see someone they know up ahead in line. Then I usually lose my temper at some point and refuse to let them through. But, honestly, it ruins my ride experience, so I should probably keep my cool better.

 

[KellyNY]

Standing shoulder to shoulder in line across the path does not constitute assault, particularly if the person who is cutting the line has no reasonable expectation of being allowed ahead of the person blocking their path.

A line jumper barging into someone who is blocking their way as they cut the line could be construed as battery under Florida law. If they threaten physical violence before doing so, it could include a charge of assault. Here's some light reading on the subject...
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ng=&URL=0700-0799/0784/Sections/0784.011.html
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ing=&URL=0700-0799/0784/Sections/0784.03.html

Besides being illegal, it's just plain rude, spoiled and childish. Choosing to commit a physical assault in response to someone non-belligerently holding their own place in line is an inappropriate response, which an intelligent person would have learned in elementary school.

You might be at Disney World with your family, but when you didn't get in line WITH your family, as far as I'm concerned, you just declared your intent to ride the ride alone.

Yes, there are always exceptions, such as illness, sudden calls of nature and the like, but getting FastPasses, buying refreshments, or riding other rides for your own convenience at the expense of others who are patiently waiting in line ARE NOT acceptable exceptions.

If your family/group isn't together when they get in line, they should have no expectation of riding together.

Let me say it again... The family that gets in line together, should not have to whine together.

Seriously, I don't understand why some people here are so quick to defend the churlish bullies or wanna-be scam artists who never learned that getting in line and waiting your turn is the civilized, accepted norm.

Of course, this is just my own not-so-humble opinion.

Agree, but thing is you do not know if person went to get FP or to use bathroom. Therefore you can either block everyone or none. You not going to investigate their reasons, right?

 

[thealfi]

I don't tolerate groups that pretend to know some people in line and just ease in. I'll openly ask them if they know each other. I remember a group of kids yelling, "Hey, Uncle Owen!!! Wait for us!"

1. Star Wars reference -> they probably do not have an Uncle Owen
2. Nobody turned around to wave back at the kids cutting people in line.
3. They just eased into a random spot with ease.
4. This is the line for the Indiana Jones ride at DLP -> a huge no, no.

I asked the people around the kids if they knew them. None of them did. So somebody from another party called over a cast member who escorted the cutters back out.

However, I do tolerate "cutters" when at least one person from a party is in line. I understand that children do not want to wait hours for Peter Pan's Flight (among other rides).

My family always enters a line together so that the people behind us understand that we're together. If a small part of my party wants to leave to get some snacks, use the restroom or something else, I kindly tell the party behind me that they'll be back soon.

We never get into line unless our entire party (or at least those who want to go on the ride) are with us. If some family members leave the line temporarily and are taking too long to come back, we'll call them and tell them to come back as soon as possible. It's just disrespectful to the parties behind us.

 

[WillAustin]

Agree, but thing is you do not know if person went to get FP or to use bathroom. Therefore you can either block everyone or none. You not going to investigate their reasons, right?

Actually, that's not true at all. It's not all or nothing for me. Someone apologetic and polite, with an explanation has a much better chance of getting by me than someone who says nothing, puts their head down and tries to squeeze by. Always a case by case situation.

 

[raidermatt]

The onus is on the person or people returning to the line to be polite, explain the situation, and be gracious for any accommodation given by the others in line.

Polite, yes. But a simple excuse me is enough. They are not obligated to explain their situation to everyone they pass in line.

Further, per Disney's line cutting policy, the accomodation is not the others in line to give or to withhold. That is the CMs job. If the others in line choose to take the matter into their own hands instead of notifying a CM, they are as guilty as the true line jumpers.

Now, if somebody along the way wishes to politely ask for their situation, fine. But regardless of the answer (which should be polite and courteous), the ONLY legitimate options are to either let the person pass or notify a CM.

 

[CozumelDisneyFan]

even begin to put it into words. Over the years I have had many encounters, and have always ended up so frustrated I could cry. To watch a group of women "rejoining?" their husbands, as I watch the beads of sweat rolling down my son's face... I have spoken up and been yelled at. But once, a woman defended her actions by saying "what if your son had diahrrhea, would you keep him out of line???" And I answered, "Yes, I would" And then I thought about it.... REALLY... your kid has diahrhea, and you are bringing him on Toy Story Mania???!! UUUGGGHHH

We are a family of three... it is very simple, the bathroom question is asked as we travel between rides... if we find ourselves in line, and someone's gotta go.... WE ALL GET OUT OF LINE....period. It is not the end of the world, we will get back in line. It has been that way since a couple of years ago, when after we were cut in front of AGAIN, my son asked why "those people get to go first?".

At that moment, time to step it up as a parent and lead by example. We do not cut, ever, for any reason. Bathrooms be dammned.

Here is the gem that I walked away with after the DIAHRHEA LADY..... I let HER ruin my ride... I came away from TSM so rattled, I forgot to enjoy the ride with my son. HUH, I just GAVE that power to her??? Some yucky lady?? A trip that we worked so hard to pay for???

If the DIAHRHEA PEOPLE chose to pull that crap (pun intended, poor spelling not) than have at it. I will NEVER again give them the ability to ruin my hard earned trip with my family.

I am, how ever, still entitled to grumble and growl when the DP pass, I am only human.

 

[KellyNY]

Actually, that's not true at all. It's not all or nothing for me. Someone apologetic and polite, with an explanation has a much better chance of getting by me than someone who says nothing, puts their head down and tries to squeeze by. Always a case by case situation.

But being polite or voice the reason to pass by you does not mean they are telling the truth. Someone smart enough will be polite and you will never read him. Do you know for sure he is not cutting? And therefore it is simply case of what sets you off at this moment. It is about rudeness and not exactly cutting as you may not know for sure.

 

[WillAustin]

But being polite or voice the reason to pass by you does not mean they are telling the truth. Someone smart enough will be polite and you will never read him. Do you know for sure he is not cutting? And therefore it is simply case of what sets you off at this moment. It is about rudeness and not exactly cutting as you may not know for sure.

And fortunately for me, I get to make that choice myself.

 

[mefordis]

This is why people just have to let this issue go. If people are going to get so rattled over whether or not a couple of people are "getting away with something" like skipping ahead in a line, it's just not worth it. Please, for your own mental and physical health, don't sweat the small stuff! And don't try to control everything and everyone around you. You will be happier, trust me.

I feel like I have a much more enjoyable time because I really do not care.

even begin to put it into words. Over the years I have had many encounters, and have always ended up so frustrated I could cry. To watch a group of women "rejoining?" their husbands, as I watch the beads of sweat rolling down my son's face... I have spoken up and been yelled at. But once, a woman defended her actions by saying "what if your son had diahrrhea, would you keep him out of line???" And I answered, "Yes, I would" And then I thought about it.... REALLY... your kid has diahrhea, and you are bringing him on Toy Story Mania???!! UUUGGGHHH

We are a family of three... it is very simple, the bathroom question is asked as we travel between rides... if we find ourselves in line, and someone's gotta go.... WE ALL GET OUT OF LINE....period. It is not the end of the world, we will get back in line. It has been that way since a couple of years ago, when after we were cut in front of AGAIN, my son asked why "those people get to go first?".

At that moment, time to step it up as a parent and lead by example. We do not cut, ever, for any reason. Bathrooms be dammned.

Here is the gem that I walked away with after the DIAHRHEA LADY..... I let HER ruin my ride... I came away from TSM so rattled, I forgot to enjoy the ride with my son. HUH, I just GAVE that power to her??? Some yucky lady?? A trip that we worked so hard to pay for???

If the DIAHRHEA PEOPLE chose to pull that crap (pun intended, poor spelling not) than have at it. I will NEVER again give them the ability to ruin my hard earned trip with my family.

I am, how ever, still entitled to grumble and growl when the DP pass, I am only human.

 

[Wadecool]

And fortunately for me, I get to make that choice myself.

Exactamundo.

 

[minandmick]

When I'm at the DMV, No way, get to the back of the line.

When I'm on vacation, who cares???? Not me.

 

[KellyNY]

And fortunately for me, I get to make that choice myself.

True but then your choice has little to do with cutting itself.

 

[shalom]

It is about rudeness and not exactly cutting as you may not know for sure.

Exactly. My observation is that people are usually happy to let someone by if the line cutter recognizes they're inconveniencing others. When the cutter apologizes, then the "social contract" has not be violated; the cutter isn't demanding the right to take what belongs to someone else. There's a huge difference between both parties being inconvenienced by a situation beyond their control (urgent bladder, potty training toddler, whatever), and someone deliberately taking something from the other person.

The rude line cutter is saying, through his or her actions, that "I'm so much more important than you that I get to take your place in line/shove up against you as I work my way through/otherwise treat you however I please." So it's not surprising that it's when the line cutter implies that he has the right to cut that people get defensive.

 

[Greenfield1984]

I've already replied to this thread before with a simple let it go or let a cast member know.

To follow that up i'd also like to relate a story about why blocking people isn't a good idea. It was an incredibly crowded day and we decided 30 minutes before the parade started we would get our daughter a bottle and watch the parade. Since it was so busy my wife decided to go solo and find some hot water for the bottle since it was dificult for us to all move as a family. She would go get the bottle warmed up and then rejoin us in our spot.

Well it took her longer then we thought to find some hot water and at about ten minutes to the parade, on her way back, she was completely blocked by somebody who refused to let her cross the street. He said that there was no cutting and they were waiting forever for their spot and she would have to wait. She protested a little bit and eventually gave up and found another route back to us. She was upset and rightfully so. He was completely barring her from moving. It is not his place to be on guard duty. It is the casts members job. This person thought they were upholding some sort of morality but was instead making it less enjoyable to be in the magic kingdom.

So again. Let it go. move on. If it becomes pandemic let the cast members know because they will deal with these things. Its not our job to police. We dont know the whole story. Nor do we need to know the whole story. Its for the cast members to judge.

And yes it was bad planning to only alocate 30 minutes. We've been to the parks before and never experienced this heavy volume or complete blockage. However many people havn't been to the parks even once, have never frequented the boards and so will have no clue how to plan for many things. Give them a break. If you can find a way to stop letting the little things bother you then everybody will be happier.

 

[SweetMissy]

But that's the problem. Maybe only one out of our party of ten should wait in line, whilst the other 9 ride something with a shorter wait and just hop back in when the first person is near the front. That way, we can all ride two rides without having to wait in line!

Could you imagine if everyone did that?

Sorry, but if you aren't prepared to wait like everyone else, you shouldn't get to ride. The queue is there for a reason.

Simples

There is NO problem. I didn't have 9 people in my party....it was myself and my 2 little ones. If there's a way to save time (especially with 2 young kids), then I'm going to take it. I think it's crazy that some get so annoyed and let it ruin their day. :/

 

[SweetMissy]

How would you feel if ten groups did the same to you? You get in a line that appears short, then as you get closer to the attraction, multiple others start hopping in line in front of you because they had one person "holding their place in line"?

You have an emergency in line and you need to leave the line but leave someone or the rest of the group in line and then rejoin them in line? That's okay.

You just don't feel like waiting in line because you want to do something else instead of waiting? Not okay.

If you can't get everyone in line at the same time, the people who got there first wait until the rest of the group can meet up and then you all get in line together.

It's not that I didn't feel like waiting in line...the line wasn't moving for the longest time. The characters were across the way, so I thought it was the perfect opportunity to do that while hubby waited. No harm done, considering hubby wasn't even in the building yet by the time we were done with the character meeting. This is made into such a big deal, lol....wow. Hope you have more fun on your next vacation!

 

[SweetMissy]

It makes a difference if everyone wasn't in line in the first place, because it means people who are debating about getting in line are getting false information.

For instance, imagine one person is saving a place for three other people. Now imagine that one person multiplied by ten in a line of twenty. Anyone debating, "Do I want to get in that line?" thinks they're only twenty people back. But then all the groups of three start streaming in -- and suddenly they're fifty people back. That means they've going to have to wait over twice as long as expected. That is an extreme example, of course, but in a longer line, it doesn't take nearly that high a percentage of people holding a place for someone else to give the people debating whether to stand in line or move on the wrong information.

People who are going to ride the ride however long the wait is may not care; people who hate lines or hate crowds or who for whatever reason do not get in lines where they're going to have to wait that long are going to be really angry, and justifiably so -- they've essentially been lied to by people who were off doing the stuff the line waiters would rather have been doing, and would have been doing, if they had any idea the line was that long!

If only one family in a long line has the attitude, "who does it hurt?", then maybe it's not a big deal, But if you're the third or fourth "who does it hurt?" person pushing through a line (or the third or fourth that day), someone may blow their stack. Hopefully they will just glare or tell the line cutter they're being a jerk, but if they do, line cutters are kidding themselves when they think the other person's over reacting. You only get so much time in your day, and if someone does something to take time away from you, that time is gone forever. Wasting someone else's time is rude because you're taking something from them you can't give back.

Not everyone has the same time awareness, but a lot of people who don't usually have the "time is money" attitude in their everyday lives, totally feel that way while on a Disney vacation! You only need to see one, "Quit crying! I paid a lot of money for this, and you're going to have fun!" adult meltdown to know that.



But remember that it may have stolen time from other people. I always tell my kids that if you're doing something that would cause problems if everyone did it, then they're out of line. In this case, out of line in a literal sense.

Litter builds up one piece at a time; Line Rage builds up one Line Cutter at a time.

How did my situation steal time from others? It's not like my husband stood there and demanded everyone behind him to wait, lol. As the line was moving into the building, he was letting people go because he was watching for me.

 

[SweetMissy]

For you maybe, but what about all the people you just cut in front of?

Didn't cut in front of anyone, since hubby was waiting....there's a big difference between what I did and just cutting in front of people for the heck of it. Also a big difference between me joining my husband and a group of 10 people joining someone in line. It was my and my 2 kids, 1 kid rode with hubby and the other with me. Did it really cost anyone to miss their dining reservations? I feel bad for you all who ruined your vacation because of this. :/

 

[SweetMissy]

We have done this in long character lines. I usually wait in line while my husband lets our two boys play outside of the line. Would you rather listen to them start to whine that they've waited a long time or bump into you because they're antsy or would you rather them politey saying "Excuse me we're meeting my wife"? I would much rather the latter. Even though I have my own small children and I do understand, I still find it annoying when you're stuck in a line with kids melting down (my own or not).

EXACTLY! This was part of my issue. I know of some posters here who think their kids are angels and never do anything bad/annoying, but in reality, not all kids are like that. I would've rather took my kids to the character line for a change of scene, save some time, kind of kill 2 birds with one stone....then have to put up with 2 irritable kids and I'm willing to bet those around us would feel the same way and would carry on like some here do about us joining hubby in line later. Maybe most here don't have kids? Hence the lack of understanding.