What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[larryz]

I can understand your way of thinking, but as I said, it's not a big deal. To me at least. I can't speak for everyone else. Would you agree that one person catching up to a group is better than 10 catching up to one?

What about 10 people catching up to 10 groups ahead of you? 20? 30?

Where do you draw the line? At what point do you say, "Enough!"?

"People who won't stand for something will fall for anything."

 

[Wadecool]

For you maybe, but what about all the people you just cut in front of?

Good point.

 

[Ciorsdah]

Being British and darn proud of that, I AM one of those people who do say something to line cutters.

Us Brits love a line to stand in, and we get pretty mad if anyone tries to mess with the "rules" of the line.

A mother/father with a small child cutting back to rest of their party is just about ok as its likely a toilet emergency.

What I object to and have been vocal about in ques before is when adults ( or even just 1 adult) walks past you like they have a god given right to join their friends. My typical responces to the "excuse me" are:

1) Ignore them

2) Explain that if they wanted to join their party then they should have arrived at the same time.

3) Suggest that they use their mobile phone to contact the "person" in the line up ahead of us and let them know that they are held up, and ask if they can wait.

4) Simply refuse to let them by and shout for a CM.

Depending on their attitude to me very much depends on my attitude back.

I LOVE my time in the parks and never let line cutters ruin that. I just enjoy ruining their "fun"!

 

[flortlebap]

Being British and darn proud of that, I AM one of those people who do say something to line cutters.

Us Brits love a line to stand in, and we get pretty mad if anyone tries to mess with the "rules" of the line.

A mother/father with a small child cutting back to rest of their party is just about ok as its likely a toilet emergency.

What I object to and have been vocal about in ques before is when adults ( or even just 1 adult) walks past you like they have a god given right to join their friends. My typical responces to the "excuse me" are:

1) Ignore them

2) Explain that if they wanted to join their party then they should have arrived at the same time.

3) Suggest that they use their mobile phone to contact the "person" in the line up ahead of us and let them know that they are held up, and ask if they can wait.

4) Simply refuse to let them by and shout for a CM.

Depending on their attitude to me very much depends on my attitude back.

I LOVE my time in the parks and never let line cutters ruin that. I just enjoy ruining their "fun"!

ITA

There was a family of 15 trying to cut in when I visited Legoland (Windsor) last summer... I swear, it was nearly a bloodbath Don't mess with the Brits...

 

[mel&me]

Did not read entire thread, but safe to say everyone has seen this.
It annoys me to a point, but I'm there to enjoy our trip. I will not let the inconsiderate jerks ruin our day. There maybe a legitimate reason for going ahead of others, anyone with a little common sense will know who is doing what. People with no consideration for others will cut, happened before will happen again. It is happening somewhere at Disney right now annoying others around them and we all know it..

 

[Ciorsdah]

ITA

There was a family of 15 trying to cut in when I visited Legoland (Windsor) last summer... I swear, it was nearly a bloodbath Don't mess with the Brits...

Darn straight! We know how to que and Heaven help anyone who tries to break those rules.

There were a bunch of kids at DLRP last year when I was there who tried to cut the line at Crushes Coaster. For those who haven't been, the line for Crushes Coaster is MILES long and if you dont get there right after the park opens, you will wait about 90mins to get on it. Its a great ride and worth the que, but when you wait for 70 mins and are nearly there and a bunch of kids ( with 1 adult) try to push past, the only thing for it is to stand side by side and stick your foot out.

1 teenage tripped over DBF and the entire group skulked back to the end of the line.

Manners cost nothing.

 

[Polydweller]

Did not read entire thread, but safe to say everyone has seen this.
It annoys me to a point, but I'm there to enjoy our trip. I will not let the inconsiderate jerks ruin our day. There maybe a legitimate reason for going ahead of others, anyone with a little common sense will know who is doing what. People with no consideration for others will cut, happened before will happen again. It is happening somewhere at Disney right now annoying others around them and we all know it..

That's my feeling. I'm going to get on everything anyway and it's not like I'm losing anything more than time. I'm not going to get upset about something as insignificant as that. I don't cut but don't sweat it if someone cuts me.

Those who are saying something like confront a person or intentionally try to trip someone. You should know that that behavior falls in several categories, assault and threatening among them. Hurt them and you will be the one in the wrong not the line cutter, they aren't breaking a law but you would be. You don't need the charges and banning from the parks. It just isn't worth it.

 

[Karl66]

What about 10 people catching up to 10 groups ahead of you? 20? 30?

Where do you draw the line? At what point do you say, "Enough!"?

"People who won't stand for something will fall for anything."

I drew my line sir. I said one or two people catching up to their party. Did you read my post? Of course I would be irritated by 10, 20, 30 people coming past me.

 

[Wadecool]

Those who are saying something like confront a person or intentionally try to trip someone. You should know that that behavior falls in several categories, assault and threatening among them. Hurt them and you will be the one in the wrong not the line cutter, they aren't breaking a law but you would be. You don't need the charges and banning from the parks. It just isn't worth it.

Actually, that's not necessarily the case. Speaking for myself, I tend to stand with my hands stretched across both railings in the que. In this scenario, I'm standing in a stationary position blocking the aisle/path and do not have to move over for the line cutter just because he/she wants me to. In order to move me, he/she would have to exert some level of physical force. So you're right that an assault would be taking place in that instance, but you're wrong as to who would be committing an assault.

 

[torinsmom]

I don't like the line cutters, and I mean the real line cutters who are not coming back into line from an emergency, but are trying to catch up with others in their party who got in line before them. That being said, I don't like confrontation. If it was a large group, I would probably let a CM know so they could deal with it.

When my family goes to WDW, one person runs to get a FP and the rest of us walk leisurely over to whatever ride is first on the list and wait by the entrance until the runner arrives. I think it is common courtesy to wait for your entire party to arrive before getting in line.

 

[DreamLiveLoveDisney]

I am just curious at all those of you who say you DON'T LET THEM BY....what do you do? Make your body big, stand wide, hold your arms out to your sides, physically block them?

I have never done this or had this issue come up while I was at any park, but am just curious, how far would you go to block someone from getting by? Are you willing to get into a fist fight over it? If they try to push past you are you going to hit them? Start yelling for security? Physically restrain them or hold onto them so they can't squeeze past you?

I think it is kind of funny that some of you feel such ownership over the line that you are willing to start a fight with someone to keep them from getting past you. And some of you even PLAN FOR THIS and block the line right from the get go so nobody trying to get past you can get by unless YOU FEEL they have a valid reason or you think it is OK to let them by.

If I had to leave my party and was trying to get back through the line to join my family and YOU STOPPED ME...we would both be removed from the park I promise you. You wouldn't stop me.

Seriously?? So you're saying that not only would you be rude and inconsiderate, but you would also go against Disney policy, AND you'd get yourself kicked out of the park if someone decided to call you out on it and not let you pass?
Unfortunately, we do come across people like this in all of the parks. I use these opportunities to remind my children about manners and consideration, and that not everyone has these traits.

Besides being illegal, it's just plain rude, spoiled and childish. Choosing to commit a physical assault in response to someone non-belligerently holding their own place in line is an inappropriate response, which an intelligent person would have learned in elementary school.

You might be at Disney World with your family, but when you didn't get in line WITH your family, as far as I'm concerned, you just declared your intent to ride the ride alone.

Yes, there are always exceptions, such as illness, sudden calls of nature and the like, but getting FastPasses, buying refreshments, or riding other rides for your own convenience at the expense of others who are patiently waiting in line ARE NOT acceptable exceptions.

If your family/group isn't together when they get in line, they should have no expectation of riding together.

Let me say it again... The family that gets in line together, should not have to whine together.

Seriously, I don't understand why some people here are so quick to defend the churlish bullies or wanna-be scam artists who never learned that getting in line and waiting your turn is the civilized, accepted norm.

Of course, this is just my own not-so-humble opinion.

Absolutely could not have said it better! Well done!!

 

[Bullseye]

Actually, that's not necessarily the case. Speaking for myself, I tend to stand with my hands stretched across both railings in the que. In this scenario, I'm standing in a stationary position blocking the aisle/path and do not have to move over for the line cutter just because he/she wants me to. In order to move me, he/she would have to exert some level of physical force. So you're right that an assault would be taking place in that instance, but you're wrong as to who would be committing an assault.

Wade standing wide, none shall pass lest he wait his alotted turn... right on brah!!

 

[OldsDr]

Nothing. I used to block them. But when my father was really bad with his celiac diseas he would have to go to the bathroom 15 - 20 times a day. On one trip He would be inline and have to leave and then come back and sometimes leave again in the same line. he could not hold it(blieve me you did not wanyt him to try). So if I do not know the reason, I do not hold anyone up.

 

[DVC-Don]

Several times we've had teens come through says they had to catch up to their brother, sister, mom or dad. I tell them they left and said that if we saw you to tell you they left. Almost all the time it works and most of the time the teen waits behind us. Only once did one leave.

 

[raidermatt]

Seriously?? So you're saying that not only would you be rude and inconsiderate, but you would also go against Disney policy, AND you'd get yourself kicked out of the park if someone decided to call you out on it and not let you pass?
Unfortunately, we do come across people like this in all of the parks. I use these opportunities to remind my children about manners and consideration, and that not everyone has these traits.

Actually, in the example only the person blocking the way is definitely being rude and inconsiderate.

Disney does ask that the entire party be together before getting in line, but if someone asks if they can leave the line to go to the bathroom and then come back (for example), CMs generally tell them it is fine. If you don't like that policy, complaining to the CM or to Guest Services are the only options that are not rude and inconsiderate.

And if someone physically blocks another person in this example and an altercation ensues, both will be leaving the park. Who gets hit with assault charges will depend on how exactly things transpired, but I wouldn't want to risk it either way.

 

[raidermatt]

Standing shoulder to shoulder in line across the path does not constitute assault, particularly if the person who is cutting the line has no reasonable expectation of being allowed ahead of the person blocking their path.

A line jumper barging into someone who is blocking their way as they cut the line could be construed as battery under Florida law. If they threaten physical violence before doing so, it could include a charge of assault. Here's some light reading on the subject...
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ng=&URL=0700-0799/0784/Sections/0784.011.html
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ing=&URL=0700-0799/0784/Sections/0784.03.html

Besides being illegal, it's just plain rude, spoiled and childish. Choosing to commit a physical assault in response to someone non-belligerently holding their own place in line is an inappropriate response, which an intelligent person would have learned in elementary school.

You might be at Disney World with your family, but when you didn't get in line WITH your family, as far as I'm concerned, you just declared your intent to ride the ride alone.

Yes, there are always exceptions, such as illness, sudden calls of nature and the like, but getting FastPasses, buying refreshments, or riding other rides for your own convenience at the expense of others who are patiently waiting in line ARE NOT acceptable exceptions.

If your family/group isn't together when they get in line, they should have no expectation of riding together.

Let me say it again... The family that gets in line together, should not have to whine together.

Seriously, I don't understand why some people here are so quick to defend the churlish bullies or wanna-be scam artists who never learned that getting in line and waiting your turn is the civilized, accepted norm.

Of course, this is just my own not-so-humble opinion.

On the assault question, of course if somebody just tries to bowl somebody over they are going to get slapped with the charge. But that's not how it would likely happen. It would likely start verbally and be escalated by both parties. At the very least there would be a retaliation by whoever didn't start it. After all, if they are going to physically stop someone from going by they aren't likely going to just allow themselves to be pushed aside. How it gets sorted out by the police would depend on a lot of different things, but both are leaving the park and both are at risk of legal charges.

Further, regardless of Disney's policy on guests joining parties already in line, Disney's policy on line jumping does NOT give ANYONE the right to physically stop another guest from moving through the line. The policy is to notify a CM and let them deal with it. If you physically block the path, you are violating Disney's policy.

Disney certainly doesn't want line jumpers who are willing to force their way through lines, but they also don't want other guests acting as judge and jury and enforcing their own judgment physically. You would likely both be asked to leave.

Even further, you acknowledge that there are exceptions. How can you possibly know the whole story in most cases since most cases involve only 1 or 2 people?

Then there's the fact that Disney CMs will allow guests to leave lines under some circumstances and rejoin their parties. How do you know this isn't what happened when somebody is coming through?

I'm not defending any bullies or scam artists. I'm merely pointing out that most of the time you don't really know who you are dealing with when somebody tries to get by.

 

[pixiefairy]

Line cutting/jumping is a big pet peeve. Part of me wants to just NOT be annoyed and go with the flow and not let anyone mess with my Disney high. However, having had it happen one too many times, and not because someone needed a bathroom break...it get old. Fast. DH will say something or just use his body to take up as much space in line as possible. Like several PP said....if we saw you leave...and then you come back...fine. If you suddenly show up and are looking to join your family/school group/tour group waaaaay up there? Nope. They can wait for you or you can wait for them at the exit. Case in point...in line to see the fairies sometime last year. A family group of 3 were in front of us in a long line...probably about an hour. Just as we were getting to the point where they let you in to the hallway leading to pixie hollow...dad is on the phone and here comes not one person...but 5. Yeah...we were peeved. Then the phone caller left the line. Seriously? It's rude....use some common sense, don't think you are better than the rest of us and enter with your party. That's what DISNEY asks of you.

I've seen fists thrown over line cutters...happened at Six Flags when I was in college. Couple of guys wanted to not wait in a long line, everyone tried to stop them but they barreled past...girl behind me got punched in the face for DARING to say no. Joke was on the jumpers....the police were waiting at load...they were escorted out of the park. It ended up going to court...we were witnesses...pretty scary. Ridiculous over being too impatient and full of yourself to wait in line...they ended up with police records.

 

[raidermatt]

Several times we've had teens come through says they had to catch up to their brother, sister, mom or dad. I tell them they left and said that if we saw you to tell you they left. Almost all the time it works and most of the time the teen waits behind us. Only once did one leave.

That seems to work great for the teens that were trying to pull a fast one.

Unfortunately the one that was telling the truth is likely the one that left the line to try to find their family since you lied to them.

 

[raidermatt]

Like several PP said....if we saw you leave...and then you come back...fine. If you suddenly show up and are looking to join your family/school group/tour group waaaaay up there? Nope.

The problem with that is there are often different areas somebody could have left the line. They may have stepped through the railing rather than tracing their way back to the entrance and in that case you wouldn't have seen them.

Or perhaps they left the line before you entered.

The point is, everyone wants to assume they know the whole story and things are just not always what they seem. Certainly in your Six Flags example it was pretty clear. But even in that case, do you really want to confront somebody when you don't know what they are willing to do? You may win in court, but is it worth the trouble and danger when you can just do what Disney says you should do and get a CM?

 

[Keegansmommy]

We have done this in long character lines. I usually wait in line while my husband lets our two boys play outside of the line. Would you rather listen to them start to whine that they've waited a long time or bump into you because they're antsy or would you rather them politey saying "Excuse me we're meeting my wife"? I would much rather the latter. Even though I have my own small children and I do understand, I still find it annoying when you're stuck in a line with kids melting down (my own or not).