What are they thinking!?!?

[JasonDVC]

Maybe they were feeling too much pressure. It is their honeymoon and they should be able to enjoy it however they want. Who cares when they go to DTD or if they are there for rope drop and Disney commando touring. Maybe they just wanted to enjoy each other and the atmosphere without feeling like they have to "accomplish" something.

I have to agree with Julie. Maybe it's not a good idea to force your Disney touring style on others. Just let them enjoy themselves on their honeymoon, the way they want to, at their pace.

 

[hoosll]

The comment in OP about Soarin is typical of people who have never been to WDW before ... they expect it to be like other parks where the rides are all out in the open and they can see the experience in advance.

I always recommend to first-timers to get a good book and read about all the rides and restaurants - they are inside, you cannot see them BTMRR and Splash Mtn are exceptions ...

Many people are afraid of what they don't know so they avoid a lot of great experiences. In fact, many people don't even find half the rides because they are inside the buildings and people can't find them - it leaves them with the feeling that WDW is not that great ... Well, you only saw half of it - the obvious in your face half ....

 

[aprilp]

For the love of Pete, people. The honeymooners were the ones who kept bugging the OP to meet them that day...its not infringing on a honeymoon if you are begged and begged to go and finally you give in and go for ONE DAY to make them happy. The OP also specifically said that he/she only had until 1:15 that day...the honeymooners knew that and should have worked with the OP's schedule for that one day as they had promised to do. After all, the OP spent his/her money to buy a ticket to spend time with them that one day PER THEIR REQUEST. OPs second post specifically states this so why are people still telling OP to back off and stop trying to force his/her touring plan on them when that is clearly not the case?! Sheesh!

 

[RMulieri]

For the love of Pete, people. The honeymooners were the ones who kept bugging the OP to meet them that day...its not infringing on a honeymoon if you are begged and begged to go and finally you give in and go for ONE DAY to make them happy. The OP also specifically said that he/she only had until 1:15 that day...the honeymooners knew that and should have worked with the OP's schedule for that one day as they had promised to do. After all, the OP spent his/her money to buy a ticket to spend time with them that one day PER THEIR REQUEST. OPs second post specifically states this so why are people still telling OP to back off and stop trying to force his/her touring plan on them when that is clearly not the case?! Sheesh!

My issue was not about that.It was how the OP said that she told the honeymooners over &over about rope drop and how the Honeymooners still arrived at 1100 or 1200, about how they had no organization or plans other than adrs..etc.I can't speak for everyone but my comments were directed more toward the "what were they thinking" not the Op showing up and meeting them at the parks

 

[aprilp]

My issue was not about that.It was how the OP said that she told the honeymooners over &over about rope drop and how the Honeymooners still arrived at 1100 or 1200, about how they had no organization or plans other than adrs..etc.I can't speak for everyone but my comments were directed more toward the "what were they thinking" not the Op showing up and meeting them at the parks

Understood. But if you made plans to meet ppl at disney or anywhere else for that matter and the folks didnt bother to show up until hours later than planned, when you had specifically told them that you only had a limited amount of time (and you spent money just to be able to meet with them), wouldnt you be upset too?

I just feel bad for the OP because alot of ppl keep telling him/her to back off and talking about him/her trying to take over the whole trip and how it could have been ruining their honeymoon, etc when the OP was simply talking about one day of their honeymoon and was obviously not trying to tell them how to do the park the whole time they were there, only how to make the most of their one day together. It seemed to me that this was the OP's main beef about them. As for what he/she was trying to tell them about ADRs etc, the OP was obviously trying to give them advice as to how to get the most out of their time at disney and didnt mean to try to force anything on them....certainly not to the point of ppl telling him/her that they were ruining the honeymoon or forcing themselves on the honeymooners, etc.

 

[RabFlmom]

And I think that if I were a new bride on my honeymoon and my husband wanted to come home early, I'd be very worried about what my husband's priorities are. Even if they don't want to PLAN, and get up early to be at rope drop annd DO THIS! Then DO THAT!, why don't they want to just, well, hang out at the hotel? Get a bottle of wine and put up the "do not disturb" sign? Swim?

LOL My sister and her husband came home 3 days early from their honeymoon and they have been married 50 years and had 4 kids. Lots of reasons to cut a trip short.

My other sister went on her honeymoon and came home early too. They were more excited about living in their new home together and becoming an old married couple in their friends eyes. They have been married for almost 40 years. She was so excited to go on the honeymoon she left from the church without a pair of shoes to wear. MY BIL says it was a convenient way for her to force him to stay in the room all day. LOL

 

[KellyNY]

Understood. But if you made plans to meet ppl at disney or anywhere else for that matter and the folks didnt bother to show up until hours later than planned, when you had specifically told them that you only had a limited amount of time (and you spent money just to be able to meet with them), wouldnt you be upset too?

I just feel bad for the OP because alot of ppl keep telling him/her to back off and talking about him/her trying to take over the whole trip and how it could have been ruining their honeymoon, etc when the OP was simply talking about one day of their honeymoon and was obviously not trying to tell them how to do the park, only how to make the most of their one day together.

OP also made remarks about DTD and how could they do it 2 days in a row as well as questioning their touring plans and Soarin. It sounded pretty pushy to me, if this kind of comments OP dropped during their vacation, no wonder they showed up late, maybe to make sure they will not spend much time with OP after that. Yes they originally wanted to meet and spend time together, but OPs attitude toward them could change it.

 

[Coach81]

Wow..that is amazing.. one day they may realize how bad they messed up... what a shame!


That being said.. my wife and I have taken a few family members with us for trips before..we have always told them the same thing:

We will be at the parks at rope drop, if you want to come along, great.. if not..that's ok to. But we have a general idea of what we are going to do on what day, if you want to stay with us.. great.. if not, we hope you have a great time!

This is really worked out well for us..

 

[SundaeAfternoon]

OP also made remarks about DTD and how could they do it 2 days in a row as well as questioning their touring plans and Soarin. It sounded pretty pushy to me, if this kind of comments OP dropped during their vacation, no wonder they showed up late, maybe to make sure they will not spend much time with OP after that. Yes they originally wanted to meet and spend time together, but OPs attitude toward them could change it.

I agree!

 

[aprilp]

OP also made remarks about DTD and how could they do it 2 days in a row as well as questioning their touring plans and Soarin. It sounded pretty pushy to me, if this kind of comments OP dropped during their vacation, no wonder they showed up late, maybe to make sure they will not spend much time with OP after that. Yes they originally wanted to meet and spend time together, but OPs attitude toward them could change it.

Well I am sure we are all guilty of trying to "help" others plan their disney vacation at some point in time, especially first timers that we want to make sure have a good time (see numerous threads on this board posted by DIS ppl regarding this same thing) and yes it may not always be appreciated. Maybe the OP was being pushy, but I doubt that would make the honeymooners decide they wanted nothing to do with him/her, especially after they initiated the whole thing. I've had ppl be pushy like that before, you just go on with the plans and put up with the pushy person that one time and know not to do it again. You dont just drop them just because they were pushy, especially after they've spent money to come see you and its just one day out of a week you'd have to deal with them. It sounds more like maybe the honeymooners had heard great things about disney, decided they should go because of that without fully researching it to see if it was something they would enjoy, and then found out they didnt really like it after all. The OP did not single-handedly "ruin" their honeymoon as some posters keep implying. And maybe I am in the minority, but my time and my money is valuable to me and I would definitely be offended if I used both for them and they had such disregard for it, even if they were on their honeymoon. If they wanted privacy the whole week, they shouldn't have insisted on meeting up with other ppl.

 

[KellyNY]

Well I am sure we are all guilty of trying to "help" others plan their disney vacation at some point in time, especially first timers that we want to make sure have a good time (see numerous threads on this board posted by DIS ppl regarding this same thing) and yes it may not always be appreciated. Maybe the OP was being pushy, but I doubt that would make the honeymooners decide they wanted nothing to do with him/her, especially after they initiated the whole thing. I've had ppl be pushy like that before, you just go on with the plans and put up with the pushy person that one time and know not to do it again. You dont just drop them just because they were pushy, especially after they've spent money to come see you and its just one day out of a week you'd have to deal with them. It sounds more like maybe the honeymooners had heard great things about disney, decided they should go because of that without fully researching it to see if it was something they would enjoy, and then found out they didnt really like it after all. The OP did not single-handedly "ruin" their honeymoon as some posters keep implying. And maybe I am in the minority, but my time and my money is valuable to me and I would definitely be offended if I used both for them and they had such disregard for it, even if they were on their honeymoon. If they wanted privacy the whole week, they shouldn't have insisted on meeting up with other ppl.

People who want help with planing, ask, Honeymooners did not ask, all the "Help" was pushed upon them in a not so polite way, do you want to hear on your vacation that you doing everything wrong, esp. when you are on a honeymoon, what reaction would you expect, they tried avoid OP because of the negative attitude, does not mean they will stop any contacts, but at that point they did not want additional lectures. OP pointed they made a lot of ADRs, so it is a plan if you ask me, just because they do not run with crowd levels charts, does not mean they do not enjoy in their own way. We cannot speculate about ruining their vacation, we do not know why did they leave erlier, could be anything.

 

[ShannonMB]

I just don't get why they left early?? If they didn't like the parks, just enjoy the resort. Obviously they were NOT feeling Disney. Oh well, more room for the rest of us!

 

[aprilp]

People who want help with planing, ask, Honeymooners did not ask, all the "Help" was pushed upon them in a not so polite way, do you want to hear on your vacation that you doing everything wrong, esp. when you are on a honeymoon, what reaction would you expect, they tried avoid OP because of the negative attitude, does not mean they will stop any contacts, but at that point they did not want additional lectures. OP pointed they made a lot of ADRs, so it is a plan if you ask me, just because they do not run with crowd levels charts, does not mean they do not enjoy in their own way. We cannot speculate about ruining their vacation, we do not know why did they leave erlier, could be anything.

Well OP was only trying to help so that they wouldnt miss anything special and fun....and it sounds like they needed the help though they might not have known it. They didnt get to enjoy the fireworks or alot of the rides because they went there blindly.

I guess long story short, if you are going to honeymoon at disney, 1. at least do enough research to know what to expect, and 2. dont even try to meet up with ppl because it probably wont work anyway!

 

[Fantasmiss]

I couldn't disagree more! And I know what I'm talking about, hubby & I had never been to a Disney park until we went to WDW for our honeymoon and we L-O-V-E-D it!! Fair enough, we went to WDW for 7 days, then to South FL for 7 days on the beach. But at the end of that we had to spend the whole last day in DTD as I already had a bad case of Disney blues....

I'm thinking those in-laws just didn't get WDW, and because of that they might've found the early start and the planning a chore, and stressful rather than part of the fun.

We're night owls and would rather be in the park until it closes, but we always get very little sleep while in WDW, spend all day in the parks and I LOVE the planning!!!!

I can understand them wanting to come home early.
What I can't understand is why they decided to go to WDW for their honeymoon? I can see die hard Disney fans wanting to do that, but first time visitors? No. Bad move.

 

[Fantasmiss]

Do you know the OP and the honeymooners? You seem to have a lot more info than the OP provided in the post, or are you just assuming? Please no flames. I don't at all mean to be rude; I'm purely curious

People who want help with planing, ask, Honeymooners did not ask, all the "Help" was pushed upon them in a not so polite way, do you want to hear on your vacation that you doing everything wrong, esp. when you are on a honeymoon, what reaction would you expect, they tried avoid OP because of the negative attitude, does not mean they will stop any contacts, but at that point they did not want additional lectures. OP pointed they made a lot of ADRs, so it is a plan if you ask me, just because they do not run with crowd levels charts, does not mean they do not enjoy in their own way. We cannot speculate about ruining their vacation, we do not know why did they leave erlier, could be anything.

 

[KellyNY]

Do you know the OP and the honeymooners? You seem to have a lot more info than the OP provided in the post, or are you just assuming? Please no flames. I don't at all mean to be rude; I'm purely curious

What info? Read all the posts and you will know what is being discussed as well, I did not provide more info then in OP posts, just read it and you will know. (Not flaming as well, just suggesting)

 

[Sneezie]

What info? Read all the posts and you will know what is being discussed as well, I did not provide more info then in OP posts, just read it and you will know. (Not flaming as well, just suggesting)

Actually, it seems your whole post was an assumation so I can understand why the PP asked if you knew the OP.

I did go back and read all of the posts and I did not read where the OP pushed his/her "help" upon anyone and I didn't think that she was impolite about anything that she did or said. As a matter of fact, she said when they didn't show up for rope drop she and her family got their TSM fast passes and went to ride other rides, then they stood in the TSM line with her brother and sister in law and gave them their fast passes. That doesn't sound rude or pushy at all.

I'll tell you what I did notice, though. I noticed you "assumed" that the OPs advice was not requested and you "assumed" that the OP's brother and sister-in-law tried to avoid him/her and that she was lecturing to them. Did she ever say that the honeymooners did not ask for help or that she told them that they were doing everything wrong? I didn't read that!

Can you show me where the OP mentions that? Maybe I missed it.

 

[KellyNY]

Actually, it seems your whole post was an assumation so I can understand why the PP asked if you knew the OP.

I did go back and read all of the posts and I did not read where the OP pushed his/her "help" upon anyone and I didn't think that she was impolite about anything that she did or said. As a matter of fact, she said when they didn't show up for rope drop she and her family got their TSM fast passes and went to ride other rides, then they stood in the TSM line with her brother and sister in law and gave them their fast passes. That doesn't sound rude or pushy at all.

I'll tell you what I did notice, though. I noticed you "assumed" that the OPs advice was not requested and you "assumed" that the OP's brother and sister-in-law tried to avoid him/her and that she was lecturing to them. Did she ever say that the honeymooners did not ask for help or that she told them that they were doing everything wrong? I didn't read that!

Can you show me where the OP mentions that? Maybe I missed it.

Read OP first post. He told them about Soarin, fireworks, rope drop. Those we know for sure. I do not know if OP told them about DTD or it was comment to us. OP never told about asking or not asking for help, however OP was very clear, they "begged" him to meet them in advance and then they showed late, I ASSUME if they would ask for help before, OP would say it and point that even so they asked for help they never followed the advice, I think it is pretty obvious. Moreover, OP post sounded pretty pushy to many on this thread including me, I ASSUME that could be a reason they showed up late, note nobody, even OP knows the true reason, we all are ASSUMING including OP.

 

[Fantasmiss]

I did read all the posts before I posted anything. Sneezie basically said pretty much what I would've said in this reply, so thanks to Sneezie for saving me the work I'm sure you (KellyNY) didn't mean any harm, but I think the OP is being judged very harshly and unfairly in some of the posts on this thread..

What info? Read all the posts and you will know what is being discussed as well, I did not provide more info then in OP posts, just read it and you will know. (Not flaming as well, just suggesting)

Actually, it seems your whole post was an assumation so I can understand why the PP asked if you knew the OP.

I did go back and read all of the posts and I did not read where the OP pushed his/her "help" upon anyone and I didn't think that she was impolite about anything that she did or said. As a matter of fact, she said when they didn't show up for rope drop she and her family got their TSM fast passes and went to ride other rides, then they stood in the TSM line with her brother and sister in law and gave them their fast passes. That doesn't sound rude or pushy at all.

I'll tell you what I did notice, though. I noticed you "assumed" that the OPs advice was not requested and you "assumed" that the OP's brother and sister-in-law tried to avoid him/her and that she was lecturing to them. Did she ever say that the honeymooners did not ask for help or that she told them that they were doing everything wrong? I didn't read that!

Can you show me where the OP mentions that? Maybe I missed it.

 

[KellyNY]

I did read all the posts before I posted anything. Sneezie basically said pretty much what I would've said in this reply, so thanks to Sneezie for saving me the work I'm sure you (KellyNY) didn't mean any harm, but I think the OP is being judged very harshly and unfairly in some of the posts on this thread..

I guess it called open discussion and this is what a public board is all about anyway. I do not think anyone including me means to hurt OPs feelings in any way, but we do have opinion on the situation and it is OK to be disagree with OP.