We had security issues with our Jedi signs - unexpected ending

ITA. The OP seems proud of how she cheated the system to violate Disney procedures.

She had done it many times before. If it was really cheating then they wouldn't have picked her kids. The way to crack down on that is tell the person who picks kids not to pick any kid with a sign.
 
My son has done this many times before. No costumes, no sign. We do make sure we're there early so he can be standing right by the rope. Jump up and down, yell, say "pick me", point to yourself...that's what he does and he always gets picked. The last time we were there (early July) a couple of kids in costumes did NOT get picked because they were just standing there and their parents were behind them yelling and pointing.
 
She had done it many times before. If it was really cheating then they wouldn't have picked her kids. The way to crack down on that is tell the person who picks kids not to pick any kid with a sign.

No, it certainly was wrong. Think of the leason she taught her kids that day. When you are told something is wrong try to get away with it anyway.

Here is an anology. If the speed limit is 55pmh and you go 65, and you don't get pulled over. You are still speeding.
 
ITA. The OP seems proud of how she cheated the system to violate Disney procedures.
I completely agree and was surprised I was the only one thinking this when reading her very proud report of how she worked around the rules.

... How was I to know there were any policies at all when with the exception of that day you would normally see kids dressed up and others holding signs larger than mine.
Really? You knew because you were told by not only the CM at security, but also by her supervisor that they were not allowed. You knew so much so that you hid them and went to another Park entry point in order to, as you put it
smuggle them in.

You even say straight out
...As for cheating the system and violating Disney procedures, keep in mind that out of the previous trips where the signs were used this was the very first time anyone had said anything about my signs or even explained that policies existed.
In other words, you knew. Once you saw NO ONE else had signs, did you feel maybe, just maybe, you should not have your kids use them?

She had done it many times before. If it was really cheating then they wouldn't have picked her kids. The way to crack down on that is tell the person who picks kids not to pick any kid with a sign.
She was specifically told by not only 1, but 2 people at Security that her sighs were not allowed in the Park because of the material used. The performers in the show are not in charge of determining what's allowed or not. Security is. They did. She completely ignored them and in her own words, "smuggled" the signs in.

- Dreams
 

Yes! I taught my younger "cousins" - not my kids - horrible lessons that day! I broke every rule in sight, disobeyed all authority, knocked down all the nearby kids in the area to guarantee my cousins would be selected, even slipped the Jedi CM a $20 so they could get special treatment afterward and get autographs. Then bought our group rounds of beer at Glowfest to celebrate our piracy and defeat of the Disney rules and regulations pirate:.

Of course we weren't going to give up so easily! There was absolutely no way we were going to waste time going all the way back to the Mickey and Friends parking structure to drop off signs we had used several times in the past without any issue from security or insight that there were even policies - for all we knew we may have just had a picky checker who has a grudge against JTA since she use to work it, and of course the supervisor wasn't going to disagree with her ruling. The checker's issue wasn't the fact that I had signs in general, it was the fact that I used posterboard. Had the signs been made with standard 8.5 x 11 paper then based on what the security CM told me herself there would not have been an issue at all. So yes, after learning that info we did knowingly and willingly disobey the checker and snuck them in, I would have put them down my pants if it meant getting them past security that day.

It's very difficult for me to believe that no other party would have tried going through a different checkpoint, there's no way anyone would have been so willing to walk back to the tram, travel back to the parking structure, walk to the car, drop things off, walk back to the tram, travel back to downtown Disney, and back through security again - complete waste of time.

As for teaching the kids lessons on how to cheat the man, I'm not even sure they're aware of what happened. Were we nervous at the show when we didn't see others with signs?, more confused than anything since this was the very first time we had not seen other signs but yes and we almost didn't use them. But we ended up getting spots in back so we decided to use the signs so the kids could stand a chance. I didn't sneak in my own booze or drugs, or a weapon to shank Mickey, I snuck in harmless signs to help my cousins increase their chances of being selected. If anyone wants to accuse us of teaching them life altering lessons that will result in them growing up to con and break rules because we decided to sneak in signs that we had used many times before and never considered them to be contraband until that day, then fine I'll take it :hippie:. They and we had a very memorable experience and outcome that will most likely never happen again or happens to very few. Am I proud that I decided to go against this "new to me" policy and sneak them in?, based on the outcome yes I think I am but "now" I'm aware that there's a sign criteria so I will need to make new signs that will continue to disappoint others in the crowds who do not have signs. I have florescent standard paper that will work, not as cool as posterboard but supposedly within regulation.

The CMs working the Jedi Training Academy do have a mind of their own and are very well organized, they're not solely relying on security to deny signs. They were walking next to us most of the time and did see the signs long before the show started, they could have easily said something to us before and afterward but did not. They were pretty good about telling people to park their strollers elsewhere and keep their kids behind the blue line so had they felt our signs would cause harm or be a distraction I'm fairly certain they would have said something to us.
 
...I didn't sneak in my own booze or drugs, or a weapon to shank Mickey, I snuck in harmless signs to help my cousins increase their chances of being selected....

After having one of those days, this just made me crack up! :rotfl: I would have done the same thing!
 
OP, I've used signs before...guess that makes me a bad parent? The first time my DD got picked she didn't have a sign. The second time was a trip with her BFF and they made their own signs on the computer- they were so proud! I carried them in a file folder so they wouldn't wrinkle. We reused these signs another time as well. She's gotten picked both those times. I've never hidden these from security either. Every time we have gone we have seen other kids with signs. I have seen them on posterboard as well.

I think your signs were really cute, and I'm glad your cousins got a special memory out of it. :goodvibes Don't listen to those who are putting you down. Signs at the DL Jedi Training Academy have been around for years. If there was a problem with them, the CMs running JTA would not have taken them to get autographed, or chosen the boys. Next time just print them out on plain paper. :thumbsup2
 
LOL, you know what I think is ridiculous? That security will him-haw around and reject your paper sign (and for what, pray tell? SECURITY issues? I suppose card stock could give a nasty paper cut but I can't see it being an actual weapon or anything), but then DCA will pump people as full of alcohol as they can get them, and set them loose on the rest of us; acting out of control, puking on rides, DRIVING out of the parking structure and onto nearby streets and freeways (where they really DO become a weapon), etc.

Personally, I think somebody over at Disney needs to pull their head out. :confused3
 
OP, I've used signs before...guess that makes me a bad parent? ...

Nothing about a sign makes anyone a bad parent.

In your telling of your scenario, I read nothing about avoiding security and purposefully smuggling something in that you were told was not permitted.

As for the CMs at JTA, they may not know what is and is not allowed in the Park in terms of type of signs. It's not their job to know. It's the job of the people at security - who told the OP the signs were of a type that were not permitted.

- Dreams
 
I guess I really don't get it....why they said no to the signs at security??? how did the security guard know they were going to be used at this Star Wars thing?

can others bring in the same sized poster board with a picture of the castle on it to get characters to sign throughout the parks? is that "illegal" too....there is nothing dangerous about a small peice of poster board...

and as far as ignoring one security guard and going to another entrance and being allowed to pass there - I probably would have done the same thing (shoot me now) other posts are full of similiar things happening - asking a CM a question like where/where a line is forming- not liking the answer an continuing to ask other CM's until you ge the answer you like...they tell you to come back at 8 for WOC, but if you wait around they let you in at 730- are those people cheating the system too???

also if you feel it is wrong to bring something to get your kid noticed how about the adorable little girls who get all dressed up in princess outfits or handmade disney outfits - guess what they get special attention from the characters and CM and at shows...should that be outlawed too...
 


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