WDW vs. Universal. My definitive comparison.

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I have had annual passes to both Universal and Disney for the past five years and visit both resorts often. I don't understand the constant comparisons to the employees and how bad the Univeral folks are. I've never had any bad experiences with the TM's at Universal or the CM's at Disney. In fact, a lot of folks work at both places and I do not believe the sloppy, uncaring and troublesome TM's described in the review suddenly change their personalities once they step foot on the "magical" land known as Disney property.

I've had more bad meals at Disney than Universal and since Universal gives the passholders park discounts, it costs less for me. I believe most theme parks including Disney and Univeral overcharge for food...nothing new there.

The atmosphere and themeing at Universal is as good as Disney if not better. The whole of IOA is wonderful so I'm not sure where the disappointed came from. At the Studios...which is a real working studo unlike DHS which is a theme park, the atmosphere is superior IMO.

I guess I'm the only one who goes to Universal who doesn't see these so called "thugs". The only time I've seen a different crowd is for Halloween Horror Nights...not during the day.

The bottom line is...everyone is different and likes different things. I hope those who haven't been to Universal will give it a try and will enjoy themselves...just don't go with the idea of comparing everything to Disney.
 
Thanks for the great review!! My DH has be bugging me to try Universal, but I think I will hold out a few years until DD is a bit older.
 
Great review. Not a knock USO. Just a fair assessment. Personally I like them both equally and on our last trip had a better time at USO for many reasons one of which was better overall cust service. But if you told me I was dying in a week and could only go to one of them one last time, I would still go to Disney. It is just better.
 
a. The quality of the help is off the charts different. Universal had typical McDonald's-esque type help. Not terrible, but visibly disinterested in being there. Poorly trained, etc. I can give examples. Disney folks were usually nice and helpful (and without being fakey sappy, for the most part).
I have seen horrible/bored/disinterested help at Disney and have found amazingly well-informed, genuinely friendly people at Universal. You find that EVERYWHERE YOU GO.

b. Sloppiness. At Universal, some things are just sloppy. Sloppy uniforms. Less well tended grounds. Cheesier sets. One great example: I was excited to see Shaggy and Scooby Doo. Then I walked a couple of blocks down and guess what? ANOTHER Shaggy and Scooby! I've never seen that at Disney and can't imagine it happening. Talk about breaking the illusion that these are the "one and only, real" characters. It just seemed sort of dumb and poorly done. I saw characters completely fall out of character in public on numerous occasions. One princess got whinny and started talking to friends.
I have seen this happen at Disney

d. Ride theme-ing. I care about this. I love the intricate details and atmosphere at Disney rides. There is little if any of this at Universal. The quality is just not there. Queing areas are usually very boring. For instance, the actual place Sherk 4D is shown is spartan.
Are.you.freaking.kidding.me. There is a ton of attention to detail and theming at Universal. If you actually look, you'll notice how intricate attractions such as Doctor Doom, Jurassic Park, Spider-Man, MIB, Mummy, etc all immerse you in the ride story.

c. Fastpass. Disney's is good, democratic, and works. Universal's had a lot of problems, didn't always work, and was undemocratic.
No, it doesn't. Fastpass/express DOES NOT WORK. It makes lines longer.

3. Public. The crowd at Universal, particularly on the weekend was... different. There was a much higher "Jerry Springer Audience" quotient at Universal. I'm not saying that's bad, it's just different. What was bad was there was also a significant "thug" quotient at Universal on the weekend. And I'm not using that as code for any particular ethnic group. There was equal opportunity thugishness going on. Not like it was dangerous or anything. Just a lot more tough characters around.
I have seen the same at Disney.

Overall, the theming isn't close in most places. Studios is OK, but not great. IoA had my hopes up. The entrance and most of the adventure area is pretty much Disney quality, but it goes downhill quickly as you move around. By the Superhero area, it's just loud, in your face, steel and plastic.
And what are the buildings made of at Disney? The skulls of crushed faries? Nope. They're made of the same thing everything is--steel, concrete, paint, plastic, etc. If you allow yourself to be immersed in it, you really feel/understand it.

For my wife and I, we ended up leaving early both days we were at the Universal parks to go back to Disney. At Universal we tried to get ride to ride to do each thing. At Disney we just liked BEING there. The cumulative effect of all those things just make Disney a nice place to be. And that is the "Magic" as far as I'm concerned.

Do others agree with this assessment?
It is what YOU make it and how go look at things. You went in with a "OMZ, Diznee is teh bestest evar!!!!!!!11111" mindset and look what happened--you could not let yourself go and truly enjoy Universal. You opted to nitpick and compare instead of immerse.

Fail.
 

Sloppiness. At Universal, some things are just sloppy. Sloppy uniforms. Less well tended grounds. Cheesier sets. One great example: I was excited to see Shaggy and Scooby Doo. Then I walked a couple of blocks down and guess what? ANOTHER Shaggy and Scooby! I've never seen that at Disney and can't imagine it happening. Talk about breaking the illusion that these are the "one and only, real" characters. It just seemed sort of dumb and poorly done. I saw characters completely fall out of character in public on numerous occasions. One princess got whinny and started talking to friends.


Traveling with younger kids. Disney is much better. Universal had some cool stuff for young ones. In fact, I absolutely adored their mini water park at Universal Studios. BUT, most rides not explicitly for kids are inappropriate for them. In Disney most rides are kid friendly, but there are a few rides kids shouldn't do. In Universal it is exactly the opposite.


Great review, and I must say I absoultly agree with you- espesially on the 2 points above. Also great comparitive of Kali river rapids vs the bluto ride- that was perfectly stated as to how I feel too :worship:
 
We are doing both Dinsey and Universal this time. Last time we did both my daughter was too young for a lot of the Universal rides. My kids are 15 and 9 right now, so they are both really looking forward to Universal.

I agree with a lot of your assesment, except that I am a Mickey fan and love Disney.

I have to dissagree about the fast pass thing though. I think that the Universal system is terrific and a huge incentive to stay onsite there.
 
Thank you for the review! I agree. Universal is great for the thrill rides but it does not, in my opinion, have the magic of Disney.

The greatest difference we saw was in the employess. A couple of them were almost rude to my boys. Another gave wrong information.

They are 2 completely different types of parks. We usually go to Universal one day and Disney the other 7.
 
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What a great review. I can't say whether or not I agree with you because the last time I was at a universal park was when I was 5 years old in California and I don't really remember that much...however....what I do remember is that there were a few characters who were so RUDE it made me never want to go back. Beetlejuice was there when I was younger (not sure if he is still there or not), anyways I was wearing a Mickey Mouse hat because we had been at Disneyland the day before and he picked it off my head and threw it on the ground and stepped on it and told me that I shouldn't like Mickey Mouse! Well I don't think that is very funny at all especially to a 5 year old who is now crying and he just walked away when I started to cry! I know that the character Beetlejuice was kind of a jerk but I think that is pushing the limits BIG TIME! Tone it down a little bit when you are dealing with kids. Anyways we are going to try going next September when we head back down there and I hope that the experience is good. Just thought I would share.
 
wow, such extreme opinions.

i do both parks each year.
i could not imagine going to orlando and not spending time at universal and disney and stay on site at both.


i guess this means that universal won't have the crowds when parry hotter opens completely up in 2010.

and here i was worried about huge crowds there all for nothing....:laughing:
 
some people love disney, some love universal/IOA...of course everyone's taste is different, however, i have to say... that is one of THE BEST reviews i've ever read!!!! Thanks for that! IMO, every theme park is different in its own way and NOTHING can compare to disney.. it's just THE theme park of all theme parks!!! :worship:
 
Very Nicely written review!

One addition though...Most rides at Universal are most definitely NOT "pooh sized" friendly! :thumbsup2
 
This is a wonderful review. I have never been to Universal in Florida, but was to the one in CA in 1991. At that time I had never been anywhere so I thought it was great. Then in 1998 I met Disney and I fell as one might say in love :love: with the whole concept. In the next few years I know we will be checking out Universal because DD will want to and I think it might be nice to see what else Orlando has to offer but it is Disney that has my heart.:lovestruc
 
I have seen horrible/bored/disinterested help at Disney and have found amazingly well-informed, genuinely friendly people at Universal. You find that EVERYWHERE YOU GO.

I have seen this happen at Disney

Are.you.freaking.kidding.me. There is a ton of attention to detail and theming at Universal. If you actually look, you'll notice how intricate attractions such as Doctor Doom, Jurassic Park, Spider-Man, MIB, Mummy, etc all immerse you in the ride story.

No, it doesn't. Fastpass/express DOES NOT WORK. It makes lines longer.

I have seen the same at Disney.

And what are the buildings made of at Disney? The skulls of crushed faries? Nope. They're made of the same thing everything is--steel, concrete, paint, plastic, etc. If you allow yourself to be immersed in it, you really feel/understand it.

It is what YOU make it and how go look at things. You went in with a "OMZ, Diznee is teh bestest evar!!!!!!!11111" mindset and look what happened--you could not let yourself go and truly enjoy Universal. You opted to nitpick and compare instead of immerse.

Fail.

How does someone "fail" when giving their opinions on something?
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I don't necessarily agree with everything the OP said, but I thought it was a much more fair assessment than some of the ones on this board where people simply write about how horrible US is just because it's not Disney. I don't think the OP tried to sway people from going there, just said why THEY thought Disney was better. And I'd be willing to bet that if this were a US board, someone could have written the exact same thing touting US as the more magical place.
 
OK, before doing Universal, I had asked many people how it stacked up against Disney. I got many replies, but there didn't seem to be any consensus at all.

I have very strong opinions about it after seeing both and thought I'd share for the benefit of others.

First of all, I don't think it's "Coke vs. Pepsi" at all. They are very different places. I personally thought WDW blew Universal out of the water. Not even close. But I can see that some people might feel differently.

Here's the difference: Disney Magic.

OK, OK hear me out. I'm not your typical "Disney magic" type person. I'm a guy who could care less about "Magic" and pixie dust and garbage. I could care less about the Disney characters. I haven't read most of the classic books, or seen 3/4 of the movies. I don't get teary eyed seeing the castle, Mickey Mouse is just OK, and tinkerbell and the cricket kind of annoy me. In fact, I didn't believe in "disney magic" at all.

Until I went to Universal.

The total lack of magic at universal made me realize that Disney does in fact have something special about it.

But it's not pixie dust. It's attention to detail.

If you care about attention to detail, you'll notice the difference. And if you care about these things, then it all starts adding up and making a big difference. There are a million little ways in which it shows up. For instance:

a. The quality of the help is off the charts different. Universal had typical McDonald's-esque type help. Not terrible, but visibly disinterested in being there. Poorly trained, etc. I can give examples. Disney folks were usually nice and helpful (and without being fakey sappy, for the most part).

b. Sloppiness. At Universal, some things are just sloppy. Sloppy uniforms. Less well tended grounds. Cheesier sets. One great example: I was excited to see Shaggy and Scooby Doo. Then I walked a couple of blocks down and guess what? ANOTHER Shaggy and Scooby! I've never seen that at Disney and can't imagine it happening. Talk about breaking the illusion that these are the "one and only, real" characters. It just seemed sort of dumb and poorly done. I saw characters completely fall out of character in public on numerous occasions. One princess got whinny and started talking to friends.

c. Food. Just fewer options, lower quality. Burgers were fattier, Turkey legs were less tasty. (However their lemon and blueberry slushes were awsome!!)

d. Ride theme-ing. I care about this. I love the intricate details and atmosphere at Disney rides. There is little if any of this at Universal. The quality is just not there. Queing areas are usually very boring. For instance, the actual place Sherk 4D is shown is spartan.

c. Fastpass. Disney's is good, democratic, and works. Universal's had a lot of problems, didn't always work, and was undemocratic.

Other considerations.

1. The characters. I have zero attachment to Mikey Mouse, etc. In fact I like Universals character set better. Shaggy and Scoobie Doo! Cool. Curious George! Cool! Spiderman - come on! Lots of fun characters. For me advantage Universal. Your mileage may vary...

2. Traveling with younger kids. Disney is much better. Universal had some cool stuff for young ones. In fact, I absolutely adored their mini water park at Universal Studios. BUT, most rides not explicitly for kids are inappropriate for them. In Disney most rides are kid friendly, but there are a few rides kids shouldn't do. In Universal it is exactly the opposite.

3. Public. The crowd at Universal, particularly on the weekend was... different. There was a much higher "Jerry Springer Audience" quotient at Universal. I'm not saying that's bad, it's just different. What was bad was there was also a significant "thug" quotient at Universal on the weekend. And I'm not using that as code for any particular ethnic group. There was equal opportunity thugishness going on. Not like it was dangerous or anything. Just a lot more tough characters around.

4. Older kids / thrill riders. Universal is THE place to be if you are between 10 and 25. Everything is louder, faster, etc. I'm a pretty young 37. In fact I was pumped up when I heard the entrance music was the Red Hot Chili Peppers the day I went! Cool! I LOVED the intensity of the drop in the Jurassic ride. Though I can't ride coasters, I can imagine that Hulk and Dragons must be sweet rides. If that's what you're after - if it's all about the rides and intense rides at that - then IoA and Universal will be a great choice. Still, for me, it didn't make up for the lack of quality and (to me) a sort of juvenile sense about things. Every darned ride seemed to try and have some element of scary or "in your faceness". Even Dr. Seuss and ET! It wasn't thoughtful thrills, it was just BAM, in your face. Bigger and Louder. That played well with my 11 year old, but got old with me. Even the sense of humor seemed geared to that age group. Shrek has a fart joke in it. When I saw it I just sighed. I'm not a big fan of fart humor. It just seems dumb to me. My 11 year old, of course, loved it - it's the first thing he mentioned.

Overall, the theming isn't close in most places. Studios is OK, but not great. IoA had my hopes up. The entrance and most of the adventure area is pretty much Disney quality, but it goes downhill quickly as you move around. By the Superhero area, it's just loud, in your face, steel and plastic.

Again, none of this stuff is that important, but it adds up, cumulatively, to give you an impression of things.

What I will give Universal credit for is creativity. I didn't much like Terminator (3D effects were off and on and the movie itself was boring IMHO) the way it was done was different and creative. And Spiderman - wow! Too rough, but wow - really neat effects. Also, watch the video monitors in the Terminator queue. They show pictures of the waiting crowd, but have some interesting things happen.

Bottom Line: Kali River Rapids as compared to the Bluto ride at Universal is a perfect microcosm of the difference between Disney and Universal. Bluto is more intense. It gets you wetter. It moves faster. It's longer. But I prefer Kali 100 times over. Bluto is essentially a garish plastic chute. The quality of the "set" is sort of McDonald's Play landish. It gets you wet, but I noticed that TONS of water sloshes around on the floor and your feet get sopping wet (which seems to me to be sort of a poor design - when you may or may not get really wet, but your shoes are guaranteed to be sopping wet). In comparison Kali is just beautiful to look at and be a part of. From the waiting line on its attractive, jungly, mysterious. Just nice. So for me, I love being on Kali and found Bluto sort of boring and ugly. But my son who is 11 loved Bluto.

So think about what you like, what floats your boat, and what bugs you and you'll have a pretty decent idea of how you'll feel about each location.

For my wife and I, we ended up leaving early both days we were at the Universal parks to go back to Disney. At Universal we tried to get ride to ride to do each thing. At Disney we just liked BEING there. The cumulative effect of all those things just make Disney a nice place to be. And that is the "Magic" as far as I'm concerned.

Do others agree with this assessment?

Side point - what the heck is up with the resorts at Universal. I felt it was way overpriced, and I felt we got nickeled and dimed all the time. Can't believe I spent $240 for one night.

Wow, very nicely put! I agree with you completely. :thumbsup2

I like how a pp put it..."We vacation at Disney and we visit US/IOA"

It's funny we were given annual pass vouchers back in 2005 that we still haven't activated. We'll probably use them when HP opens in 2010.

The last time we went to USO the TM's (?) were so rude, from the girl at the turnstiles to the boat captain taking us back to the Hard Rock. We decided that was it. I agree about the guests at US/IOA. :sad2: It's just not our type of place. They do have some pretty good rides though. :rolleyes:
 
I enjoyed your review as it was very well done but Im not sure that I would even compare both parks, apples and oranges.

They target different things and promise different experiences. I dont think Universal is trying to be like Disney and vice a versa so Im not sure whether comparing the "atmosphere" is really fair.

Comparing food, employees, etc, I get but not the atmosphere or even rides. All I know is my 11 year son is all "Disneyed" out as he says and picks Universal over Disney in a heartbeat LOL. Though he still enjoys Disney, he can't get enough of Universal. He could care less about the disney magic , only how fast can he go!! God bless my 5 year old who still loves everything about Disney!

Universal is much more affordable for Fl Residents so I can see how the weekend teenage crowd tends to congregate there more. But I do prefer the Universal express system for guests!

Anyway, different parks for different interests and I think thats great!
 
First of all, when you post your "definitive comparison" on the DISNEY TP&A board, of course most people are going to agree with you when you say Disney is better overall.

Post this same thing on the Universal board here on the DIS and I'm betting you'll get a slightly different angle on the responses. Don't worry. As soon as a Mod sees the word "universal" in the title, it'll probably get moved there anyway. Not that it should, mind you, but it usually happens.

So, I get most of what you are saying and giving specifics to back your opinions makes it all seem to be tied up in a nice neat locigal package. The problem is that experiences at theme parks are personal. What you saw (or didn't see), what you felt (or didn't feel)... these things are based on your expectations, your reactions, your feelings, etc.

For me, the attention to detail is there at both Disney and Universal. The "magic" is different at both places, but it is there for me. While Disney has a spoon-fed-from-birth nostalgia to base their magic on, Universal has an at-the-moment-isn't-this-cool magic going on.

For example, in the Pooh ride at MK there is a picture on the wall during the ride of Mr Toad shaking hands with Pooh as a nod to the ride that used to be there. In the Mummy ride at US there is a Kong statue in the ride and bananas scattered all over the que line as a nod to the ride that used to be there.

Personally, I can stand those kinds of comparisons. So what? They both did a bang up job of tossing in details. Who did it better? That's a personal opinion and a waste of typing space to debate.

When I go to Disney World, I love it. When I go to Universal, I love it. Are they the same? No. And I am very thankful for that.

Carry on.
 
With Express Pass, actually I think it IS equal access. People in the on-site hotels pay more to be there and get EP. People who don't stay on-site pay less and don't get EP, but they can pony up the extra $$ to buy one. You pay extra either at the hotel or the parks, but it equals out in the end.

Personally I don't bother comparing Universal and Disney because they are much too different...like comparing cats and dogs and arguing over which makes the better pet. I have APs for both (too bad Disney has nothing to equal USF/IOA's Premier Pass), and I love them both for different reasons.
 
I have APs for both (too bad Disney has nothing to equal USF/IOA's Premier Pass), and I love them both for different reasons.
Disney is sorely lacking in their passholder benefits...no doubt about it. When I go to Universal and show my AP for lunch or a t-shirt and get a discount, that makes the pass worth it. When I go to Disney...nothing. Well at least we don't have to pay for parking. :rotfl:
 
I totally disagree. I love Disney. I love Universal just as much, but in a different way. I always find the Universal parks to be beautifully maintained. I frequent both Disney and Universal parks more than most people because I live within ten minutes of both. I find the Universal staff to be very good and very nice. I like to eat at Universal park restaurants more than Disney's counter-service. IMHO, Universal offers more variety of items and the quality is very good. Universal gift shops outside their rides are themed to the rides, unlike Disney who now offers the same generic merchandise everywhere.

I think the Universal rides are incredible. Spiderman is just amazing. I certainly think the queue linke for E.T. rivals any of Disney's queue lines. Not all are themed as well as E.T., but many have neat things. I am absolutely fascinated as I watch the tornado videos in the queue line to Twister. When you get inside the building, the queue line is like you are walking through a home that has been hit be a Twister. Walking through the queue line for Jaws, you get the feeling that your are really in a small fishing village. I can give a lot more examples. Perhaps, the OP didn't ride the classic Universal rides. I agree that the outside queue line for Shrek is pretty boring, but once you get inside into the holding room, it is great! Much like the holding room for Muppets 3-D.

Universal has some terrific stage shows. I absolutely love the Horror Makeup Show at US. The Beetlejuice Graveyard Revue is worth watching over and over.

I guess it is all in the eyes of the beholder. I will continue to go to both Disney and Universal and love them for their specific contributions. I will never understand why people think they can't like both.
 
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