Snarkiness........I like it!!! If the shoe fits...where it!! Yes, I was being snarky.Is irony totally lost on you? shanomi's snarkiness is okay with you, but A-V's sarcastic response brings forth your outrage?

Snarkiness........I like it!!! If the shoe fits...where it!! Yes, I was being snarky.Is irony totally lost on you? shanomi's snarkiness is okay with you, but A-V's sarcastic response brings forth your outrage?
Yeah, and that Disney Mobile was also called diversification.This is what is called diversification. A wise move.
Nope. But they should spend money wisely.I get the feeling that you and others are all for pumping more and more cash into the parks.
Again, nobody ever said otherwise.So we agree Dis is a business.
Well, the current Disney spends a lot of time selling the parks as a place where dreams come true. They're trading on the products made when creating "magic" (not just selling it) was the (quite successful) business plan.A business to make money, not to make dreams come true.
Thanks, Bicker. Remember, those are the same surveys that said the guests didn't want Early Entry, they wanted Character Caravan.We do not know 1/10th of a percent of what they know as far as their studies and projections to name a few. Maybe all there surveys are telling them something we don't have a clue to.
Yeah, and that Disney Mobile was also called diversification.
Nope. But they should spend money wisely.
Again, nobody ever said otherwise.
Well, the current Disney spends a lot of time selling the parks as a place where dreams come true. They're trading on the products made when creating "magic" (not just selling it) was the (quite successful) business plan.
Thanks, Bicker. Remember, those are the same surveys that said the guests didn't want Early Entry, they wanted Character Caravan.
I like the idea that now you have to have an MBA or work for Disney (Jester if you only knew how close you are with some of the people here) in order to comment on the quality of the latest offerings. Yes it take an MBA to see that Caveman sucks before it hit the air. Yes it takes a Disney exec to see the brilliance behind Underdog The Movie. You need an MBA to understand why Disney is selling mickey Cell Phones again when it already failed once. Do I need to see the surveys to know that Laughing Floor sucks? Do I need to see the surveys to know that bathrooms should be cleaned more offten in the parks? Would a powerpoint help me understand how broken ADR's have become when you have to plan a meal 6 months in advance and get up at 3 in the morning to book it? and the list goes on and on.....
Disney spent a whole lot of money to make California Adventure in the first place. Many, many people at the time said it the plan was poor and would hurt the company. Many people – especially around here – said that everything was going to be “magical” and the boards we filled with many, many happy fans dancing about the wonderful new park. We now know how it turned out – the fans were flat wrong from the business point of view.They are pushing more resources back into the enterprise.
I assume the same must apply to you. Unless you want to haul out your credentials, your statements that things are improving are just as invalid and ignorant as mine. Being “positive” is no less a value judgment than being “negative”, so let’s hear some wonderful stories about the films you’ve produced or should we summarily dismiss you too?Perhaps you do have a background that establishes you as an expert in the running of multi-million dollar entertainment venues…
Nor am I. I am trying to make sure that my children and grandchildren are able to have the same kind of experiences that I had. More and more, it looks like those will not be coming from The Walt Disney Company. My experience were of watching brilliant movies, or running through the parks to experience new and original attractions, of seeing things that I never thought possible brought to life. Today, we get cheap carnival rides, rehashed videos and the demands that our dreams fit into the balance sheets and bonus plans of a bunch of people who really don’t care anymore.I am not trying to regain some childhood experience.
Which is exactly my point. The DVC resorts in Hilton Head and Vero Beach were such failures it destroyed the original DVC concept. How is Hawai’i going to be different? What can Disney bring to Hawai’i? Is it going to be more creative, more imaginative than other resorts? Or is Disney simply expanding their “comfort brand” for people too scared to go to Hawai’i on their own? And what’s the point of “Comfort Disney” anyway – who wants to see another McDonaldized corporation that offers nothing but the bland? It’s those questions that are really brought up by the Hawai’i resort for people interested in the business.A resort will certainly not help "WDW". It will however, hopefully, help the bottom line for Disney on the whole.
Because Disney became a great company in the first place by exceeding people's expectations, by creating things the public didn't even realize they wanted until they first saw them.if the majority of the guests don't see that way....then why should disney care?
I like the idea that now you have to have an MBA or work for Disney (Jester if you only knew how close you are with some of the people here) in order to comment on the quality of the latest offerings. Yes it take an MBA to see that Caveman sucks before it hit the air. Yes it takes a Disney exec to see the brilliance behind Underdog The Movie. You need an MBA to understand why Disney is selling mickey Cell Phones again when it already failed once. Do I need to see the surveys to know that Laughing Floor sucks? Do I need to see the surveys to know that bathrooms should be cleaned more offten in the parks? Would a powerpoint help me understand how broken ADR's have become when you have to plan a meal 6 months in advance and get up at 3 in the morning to book it? and the list goes on and on.....
The quotes.....driving me crazy!!
Bicker....he is a member here...no? He is also on a cruise baord that I frequent, under another name. His post were the hardest posts to follow. No problem b eing called snarky....but i have to stop it at Bicker. !
Pandering to the lowest levels of acceptance or telling people to settle for the just good enough is not going to make any company successfull. Ask anyone at Ford, United Airlines or Sears these days.
I also caught the Bicker comment.
I too was questioning the use of Bicker's name.![]()
I'd forgotten about Bicker--what became of him?
Quite frankly I don't care if other posters are former/current disney management or a traumatized survivor of the college program. Save for any presentation of obvious credentials, arguments will carry their own weight or not.
And how we end up going back to movies I will never know. In fact, I don't even know if the movie business is a commercial success. I thought we were talking about the parks.
But the rest I think you are not on the mark. I don't remember maintenance and clenliness in the parks ever being better than it is today. Things are freshly painted, in good repair, and the areas are clean to a fault. That was not true during my visit seven or so years back when there were obvious examples to the contrary.
EE, Soarin', and the stunt car show at MGM are examples of thoughtful and creative expansion. The updates to POTC, HH, and other big attractions (although overdue) are welcome both for their need and the regularity of their announcement. The increase in CM entertainers is an excellent example of money spent for no direct return, but these additions add to the magic of the environment.
Well then don't bring it up next time...the only point is that yes "some" people here know Disney inside and out as well as the Movie biz so don't be so quick to dismiss what they have to say. (No I'm not one of them).
Simply a shorthand reference to the fact that Bicker's regular response has always been to say, in essence "Disney management has all of the data, so shut up, 'cause obviously since they have the data and you don't, their decision is the right one and your criticism is wrong." Shanomi's earlier response just rang that Bicker bell. (I'm happy to see Shanomi's good-natured responses).I also caught the Bicker comment.
I too was questioning the use of Bicker's name.![]()