Warning to golf cart Drivers (and Dogs)

Perhaps we all need to make an effort to say something to folks we see violating the rules. Start out with just the flagrant stuff, and build up from there. If a cart full of kids gets yelled at in a loop, my guess is they won't go looping there again.

Also, a gentle, "Hey, Dude, you aren't supposed to pass the bus, someone could get hit" with a freindly wave might help.

If enough people say something, it might start a "movement".

I have to say though, Disney is the World Showcase for Bad Parenting.
 
perhaps we all need to make an effort to say something to folks we see violating the rules. Start out with just the flagrant stuff, and build up from there. If a cart full of kids gets yelled at in a loop, my guess is they won't go looping there again.

Also, a gentle, "hey, dude, you aren't supposed to pass the bus, someone could get hit" with a freindly wave might help.

If enough people say something, it might start a "movement".

I have to say though, disney is the world showcase for bad parenting.
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Perhaps we all need to make an effort to say something to folks we see violating the rules.

Might work for the gang o' kids and the odd adult that truly doesn't know they're breaking the rules...

...but for the "rules don't apply to me set" (which I suspect is a pretty darned big %) I'd bet any "friendly reminders" will be met with the one-finger salute at best, and road rage at worst. :headache:
 
Might work for the gang o' kids and the odd adult that truly doesn't know they're breaking the rules...

...but for the "rules don't apply to me set" (which I suspect is a pretty darned big %) I'd bet any "friendly reminders" will be met with the one-finger salute at best, and road rage at worst. :headache:

Yeah, can't argue with you there, but conflict management is my middle name. For some it might be a bad idea to speak up. I'm not one of those people. Can't we all just get along?

I'll start in the first week in Feb. Who's with me? :cheer2:
 

A guy called me last night wanting to sell me a 1999 Mercury Mouse which is what the SeaRaycers are now. Made me think about the age they let kids drive them. Only 12. It's hard to believe they allow a 12 y/o out there that could crash into a ferry boat. Maybe this is for an adult supervised ride.
 
It's hard to believe they allow a 12 y/o out there that could crash into a ferry boat. Maybe this is for an adult supervised ride.

We actually saw Lake Patrol cracking down on some SeaRaycer shenanigans while on the boat to MK recently. Some kids were essentially playing chicken with each other, dodging in and out of each other's wakes WAY too close - and all while the launches were only yards away.

Seems they crack down a *bit* more when it comes to traffic on the lake at least, but yeah - does seem crazy that really young kids still years away from driving a car are allowed to pilot a boat on a heavily trafficked lake. :confused3
 
We actually got 2 surveys from WDW when we got home...In both I noted that the most disappointing thing about our stay at the Fort was the lack of enforcing the rules...

The night of our mini Fiend gathering on the beach there was a family sitting there hanging out with 3 dogs - including 2 dachshunds that barked at everyone that passed by. We also saw a young kid attempting to control a dog on a flexi-leash near the pool one day. The list goes on and on...

I agree. This is what I meant when I made posts to the effect that I do not want to vacation with other people's pets. Aside from the inevitable dog barking that periodically breaks the relaxing atmosphere of Fort Wilderness, in any place where there will be dogs there are a not insignificant number of dog owners who will push the envelope of the rules. Further, having a dog anywhere near my resort pool is unacceptable to me. I don't want my family & I to be walking around in bathing suits and bare feet having to navigate around various canines, especially those big enough that young owners struggle to keep control of them (as in your experience at FtW). The life guard should have called Disney security and gave those particular dog owners an ultimatum: since you broke the rules and took the dog poolside, you must now keep the dog in a Disney kennel for the rest of your stay or leave. But the bottom line is that outside of kennels, IMHO dogs should not be allowed at Disney resorts or Fort Wilderness (or as I now sometimes refer to it, Fort Canine). Same as I would not want to try to navigate the Magic Kingdom amid hundreds of dogs, cats, ferrets, etc. of various Disney guests.
 
I agree. This is what I meant when I made posts to the effect that I do not want to vacation with other people's pets. Aside from the inevitable dog barking that periodically breaks the relaxing atmosphere of Fort Wilderness, in any place where there will be dogs there are a not insignificant number of dog owners who will push the envelope of the rules. Further, having a dog anywhere near my resort pool is unacceptable to me. I don't want my family & I to be walking around in bathing suits and bare feet having to navigate around various canines, especially those big enough that young owners struggle to keep control of them (as in your experience at FtW). The life guard should have called Disney security and gave those particular dog owners an ultimatum: since you broke the rules and took the dog poolside, you must now keep the dog in a Disney kennel for the rest of your stay or leave. But the bottom line is that outside of kennels, IMHO dogs should not be allowed at Disney resorts or Fort Wilderness (or as I now sometimes refer to it, Fort Canine). Same as I would not want to try to navigate the Magic Kingdom amid hundreds of dogs, cats, ferrets, etc. of various Disney guests.

That's your opinion. Just like you know what the ol saying is everybody has one. I for one don't have a dog but I know people who have started camping so their dog can come with them. It's just like anything else at the fort or other places, you have one A hole that doesn't think the rules apply to them and they get everybody in trouble. There are many responsible dog owners that go to the fort and shouldn't stop because of you. I might not like the way you dress but I don't say anybody dressed like that can't come to the fort.
 
I agree. This is what I meant when I made posts to the effect that I do not want to vacation with other people's pets. Aside from the inevitable dog barking that periodically breaks the relaxing atmosphere of Fort Wilderness, in any place where there will be dogs there are a not insignificant number of dog owners who will push the envelope of the rules. Further, having a dog anywhere near my resort pool is unacceptable to me. I don't want my family & I to be walking around in bathing suits and bare feet having to navigate around various canines, especially those big enough that young owners struggle to keep control of them (as in your experience at FtW). The life guard should have called Disney security and gave those particular dog owners an ultimatum: since you broke the rules and took the dog poolside, you must now keep the dog in a Disney kennel for the rest of your stay or leave. But the bottom line is that outside of kennels, IMHO dogs should not be allowed at Disney resorts or Fort Wilderness (or as I now sometimes refer to it, Fort Canine). Same as I would not want to try to navigate the Magic Kingdom amid hundreds of dogs, cats, ferrets, etc. of various Disney guests.

You sound just like my brother. You take something and then go overboard. :rolleyes1

Yes, some people break the rules. Should WDW crack down on rule breakers? Sure. Should they be forced to leave or board their pet because of one infraction? While something should be said that seems a bit extreme.

Having a handful of pet loops doesn't equate to having to navigate "amid hundreds of dogs, cats, ferrets, etc". Maybe we've just gotten lucky, but we've never seen a big issue with dealing with animals at the Fort. Seems that rule breakers are much fewer than rule followers.
 
... in any place where there will be dogs there are a not insignificant number of dog owners who will push the envelope of the rules.

And the same is true of humans in general. Our last night there a few weeks ago 5 rental RVs pulled into the 300 loop and then out poured the children - a dozen or more, all between the ages of 5-15.

Their human parents then proceeded to let them run wild until past midnight (well after "quiet hours") - racing through other people's campsites and screaming at the top of their lungs.

I enjoyed this no more than you apparently enjoy being around other people's pets.

And for the record, my 3 dogs were quietly hanging out in my camper.

A couple of weekends before that we had 9 teenagers in a tent for 2 nights who swore and caroused and carried on until past 2 am - even going so far as to crash their golf cart into the utility box.

You can imagine how little we enjoyed that disruption to our peace and quiet.

I can give you a laundry list of all of the other humans that broke the rules in our 3 weeks there whose actions very definitely impacted our peace and quiet and overall good time. And I can tell you there were exponentially more human rule breakers than canine.

People will break the rules period. In my experience dog owner's are not at a higher risk of rule breaking. In fact I've experienced the opposite when it comes to people who camp with their pets. MOST understand what a privilege it is to be able to bring our beloved companion animals with us when we travel, and we do all that we can to follow the rules so that we don't spoil it for everyone.

And what about the parents that just let their beloved offspring run around in the area beside our campsite unsupervised (as in they were IN the camper while the kids were out running around) - tearing and stomping at the cypress knees and whacking everything in sight with sticks?

But there are bad apples in every bunch. That's no reason to burn the orchard.

Further, having a dog anywhere near my resort pool is unacceptable to me. I don't want my family & I to be walking around in bathing suits and bare feet having to navigate around various canines, especially those big enough that young owners struggle to keep control of them (as in your experience at FtW). The life guard should have called Disney security and gave those particular dog owners an ultimatum:

I actually agree with you here. And I should clarify that in 3 weeks at the Fort we saw ONE dog being dragged by ONE child near the pool. And the dog was a little white, 10 lb mop dog - hardly a Rottweiler, and this was hardly an every day occurrence. And yes, someone from Disney absolutely should have spoken to them about this.

But they also should crack down on the underage cart drivers, campers running around and screaming til the wee hours, and every other rule breaker whose actions impact other campers.

IMHO dogs should not be allowed at Disney resorts or Fort Wilderness (or as I now sometimes refer to it, Fort Canine).

And you are entitled to your opinion.

I'm afraid you won't find a ton of people who share it at 'Fort Canine' though.
 
I'd bet any "friendly reminders" will be met with the one-finger salute at best, and road rage at worst.

It's actually called "flipping the bird." It's the official greeting of one driver to another in NJ, especially during rush hour or in the more urban areas. ;) We're very "friendly" here in NJ. :woohoo:
 
It's actually called "flipping the bird." It's the official greeting of one driver to another in NJ, especially during rush hour or in the more urban areas. ;) We're very "friendly" here in NJ. :woohoo:

I'll have to remember that the next time we're driving through NJ on our way to the Fort. pirate:
 
People like you make me appreciate my dogs even more. ;)

What's not to appreciate?

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Don't feed me after midnight!
 
I agree. This is what I meant when I made posts to the effect that I do not want to vacation with other people's pets. Aside from the inevitable dog barking that periodically breaks the relaxing atmosphere of Fort Wilderness, in any place where there will be dogs there are a not insignificant number of dog owners who will push the envelope of the rules. Further, having a dog anywhere near my resort pool is unacceptable to me. I don't want my family & I to be walking around in bathing suits and bare feet having to navigate around various canines, especially those big enough that young owners struggle to keep control of them (as in your experience at FtW). The life guard should have called Disney security and gave those particular dog owners an ultimatum: since you broke the rules and took the dog poolside, you must now keep the dog in a Disney kennel for the rest of your stay or leave. But the bottom line is that outside of kennels, IMHO dogs should not be allowed at Disney resorts or Fort Wilderness (or as I now sometimes refer to it, Fort Canine). Same as I would not want to try to navigate the Magic Kingdom amid hundreds of dogs, cats, ferrets, etc. of various Disney guests.

Boy this is going to suck for you. But if you start looking hard they just installed poop bags dispensers at the Wilderness lodge and the Board Walk
 
Closer to the original topic... Last night I was coming through the 100 loop. A young-ish male driver in a car turned the wrong way into the loop. I called his attention to the fact that it was one way, to which he replied...I know, but I'M ONLY GOING TWO SPACES IN. He actually went three spaces in, but should the number matter? It could have been interesting if one of the horses had come through about then.
 
Closer to the original topic... Last night I was coming through the 100 loop. A young-ish male driver in a car turned the wrong way into the loop. I called his attention to the fact that it was one way, to which he replied...I know, but I'M ONLY GOING TWO SPACES IN. He actually went three spaces in, but should the number matter? It could have been interesting if one of the horses had come through about then.

I can't count the number of times we saw people driving carts the wrong way in 300 - and our site was about halfway through the loop!

In fact a few days into our trip we noticed a new "one way" sign posted at the entrance.

Didn't make a bit of difference.

Boy this is going to suck for you. But if you start looking hard they just installed poop bags dispensers at the Wilderness lodge and the Board Walk

:rotfl: :rotfl2:
 















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