Warning a SPOLIER POST! At Worlds End: comments, questions??

[briar_rose_59]

I read in another post that the scene after the credits can be found on youtube.com. For the life of me, I can't find it! Does anyone have the link to the scene? TIA!

They took down all the ones I had seen. "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Walt Disney Company"

 

[mickeymom629]

We bought our tickets a week ahead of time and, after listening to the poor reviews, I almost gave my ticket away. But I'm glad I went with low expectations and knowing that it was 3 hours long. I loved it and the audience clapped. We stayed through the credits. I loved how it tied everything together. I have to admit that somewhere in the middle, I was thinking that I didn't care about any of the characters anymore and I just wanted the movie to end. But they pulled it out and I ended up caring for them all again. I thought the action and special effects were good.

I felt that they could have edited a bit better and released the cut scenes in dvd. There was definitely 45 minutes that could have been left for dvd viewing only.

I thought this was better than the second and, in 5-10 years, I'll be ready for the next in the "trilogy".

 

[Spaceship Earthfan]

I read that too, that some believe (based on interviews and dialog that was cut) that the green flash at the end (after the credits) symbolized the curse being broken. This just doesn't sit well with me tho...I mean yeah, that would make a "happy" ending, but it seemed pretty clear to me that he was returning for his one day. This just seems to sit better with me.

On another note, I loved the ride audio after the ship fell over the waterfall. This drop, by the way, is symbolized by the drop at the beginning of the PotC rides in Disneyland and WDW -- pretty cool! Jim Hill has an interesting article which discusses the movies, vis-a-vis the rides: http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2007/05/18/why-for-did-michael-eisner-try-and-shut-down-production-of-the-curse-of-the-black-pearl-back-in-2002.aspx

 

[bunnyfoo]

Will's job was done. He was returning to Elizabeth and his son. Another poster pointed me in the right direction.....

From Wikipedia:
After the credits, in a scene captioned "Ten Years Later," a young boy approximately ten years of age is seen singing "A Pirates Life for Me" as Elizabeth walks behind him. It is implied that this is the child of Will and Elizabeth. The sun sets followed by a green flash and Will, on the mast of The Dutchman, sails towards the shore. According to the film's writers, the curse of The Dutchman is broken if, after the ten years, the captain's lover reamains faithful. The final post-credit scene suggests that Will can now return to land, as Elizabeth has remained faithful. The green flash, which symbolises a soul returning from the dead, supports this theory. Apparently, a scene of dialogue between Tia Dalma/Calypso and Davy Jones, which explained this, was cut from the film, leading to confusion about the ending.

Oh man! My group wanted to leave as soon as the credits started rolling ... they didn't like the movie that much. I'm glad that there was a scene at the end to imply that Elizabeth and Will would be reunited. I guess I'll have to go and see it again

 

[tksbaskets]

I guess I'm the odd man out, I wasn't as thrilled with this movie as the last two. There were parts that were really funny or gorgeous (the ship sailing through the icy cliffs or the stars reflecting on the water) but I felt like the story line was too complicated and forced. I hated the ending! I guess I just like happy endings.

Nope, I'm with you. I was very disappointed in the movie. The family was ready with pre-purchased tickets in hand for the 8pm show on Thursday.

What I liked best about I and II was the witty banter between Elizabeth and Jack that was totally missing this time - OK ONE line... "It would have never worked between us" "Keep telling yourself Darlin'"

Perhaps it was the darker aspect of this movie or my own hope that Elizabeth would get together with Jack....I'm with undertheseas...and give it 2 1/2 stars out of 4.

TK

 

[poohluvr]

I read that too, that some believe (based on interviews and dialog that was cut) that the green flash at the end (after the credits) symbolized the curse being broken. This just doesn't sit well with me tho...I mean yeah, that would make a "happy" ending, but it seemed pretty clear to me that he was returning for his one day. This just seems to sit better with me.

Yes I agree. Although I would love for it to turn out that way, I still think that Will was only able to come back for one day. Mainly because they continually stress the fact that the Captain can only step foot on dry land once every 10 years. Also, if the Flying Dutchman has to have a Captain who would replace Will if he was set free?

 

[Disneyfanfour]

I don't know, but I feel like I'm the odd woman out here out of all these posts!

My DH and I did not enjoy it as much as we thought we would. There was way more violent scenes (the woman getting shot point-blank in the forehead was pretty gruesome) that were pretty explicit. There was way more inuendos and a pretty provocative scene between Will and Elizabeth on the island. We just were not expecting this from Disney, and from the first two films it wasn't apparent there would be these added "features."

We watched it with our two DD's, 11 and 12 and they actually turned their heads at some of the scenes...without us prompting them! I know, it's rated PG13, but really, so were the other two. And it's DISNEY and it's pitched at being a "family" movie to boot.

I guess if we took our expectations down a bit, and considered it a true PG13 we would've enjoyed it more. Maybe we need to watch it again to appreciate all the other stuff, too. Believe me, we're all Pirates fans and LOVE Disney, so I hate to post this thread. But, I'm wondering if there are any others out there who didn't just LOVE this movie??

 

[DisneyGuy77]

Will's job was done. He was returning to Elizabeth and his son. Another poster pointed me in the right direction.....

From Wikipedia:
After the credits, in a scene captioned "Ten Years Later," a young boy approximately ten years of age is seen singing "A Pirates Life for Me" as Elizabeth walks behind him. It is implied that this is the child of Will and Elizabeth. The sun sets followed by a green flash and Will, on the mast of The Dutchman, sails towards the shore. According to the film's writers, the curse of The Dutchman is broken if, after the ten years, the captain's lover reamains faithful. The final post-credit scene suggests that Will can now return to land, as Elizabeth has remained faithful. The green flash, which symbolises a soul returning from the dead, supports this theory. Apparently, a scene of dialogue between Tia Dalma/Calypso and Davy Jones, which explained this, was cut from the film, leading to confusion about the ending.

The movie was quite good, but this point was not maid clear in the film, leading to questions for some about the ending. What would happen to the captain if they did not have a lover to come back to in the first place? Would the curse still be broken, or would they remain captain? If the curse would have been broken, then this aspect of the film would conflict with Jacks motivation for wanting to stab the heart of Jones, as he wanted to be immortal. I think the latter would make more sense. It was a bad move on Disney’s part to exclude such an explanation out of the film, as this may affect peoples’ opinions about the ending.

 

[EEyorelover22]

Jack wasn't in love with anyone though so maybe he would stay there forever.

What's with the coins? Who had them all and how did they end up in one place in that one scene??

 

[JeanfromBNA]

In a nutshell...Calypso is a goddess of the sea who had a love affair with Davey Jones. She gave him the job of transporting the dead to the other side, which he did for ten years. (Not sure why she gave him that job?) When the ten years were up and he was to have his day on land to be with her, she was a no show, so that's when he started controlling the ocean and not doing his job anymore, taking dead men as part of his crew. He then had the nine pirate lords bind her into human form and they've both been miserable ever since. THAT is why Tia Dalma brought back Barbossa from the dead and went with them to rescue Jack, because she needed him to get the nine pirate lords together to undbind her.

I felt like that was the reason for the scene after the credits too...to show that, unilke Calypso, Elizabeth shows up for Will's one day on land and Will will continue to do his job and not end up like Davey Jones.

As she is released from her bonds, however, she is told that Davey Jones is the one who "betrayed her." How?

Anyone else wonder why Tia Dalma never showed for Davey Jones? Could she have been with Bonnie Jack?

 

[2angelsinheaven]

Maybe that's why Davy Jones has it out for Jack. =o)

I thought the Green Flash meant someone's soul was being freed but maybe not Will's maybe it was some of the soul's he had been shipping to the "other side". Instead of inslaving them like D. Jones?

 

[Tinkerbelle's Mom]

I have to say that I think that Will was returning to Elizabeth permanently.It does not play well with me that he would only get one day with her after ten years. The entire reason DJ was so upset was that calypso/Tia was not waiting there for him and that is why he helped the first brethern committee enslave her in human form. He betrayed her in return for her betrayal of him.

I am a happy ending kind of girl what can I say! I would like for the three of them to be reunited.

As for Jack - he was after the immortality. It looks like he is still going after it on his hunt for the fountain of youth.

 

[mike&amy1508]

A bit OT - what were the after-credit scenes in the first two movies? I don't know if I ever saw them!

 

[Disney8704]

i personally LOVED the whole movie. My fav parts were:

Where Jack was loosing his mind and he was talking to all the other Jacks in Davy Jones Locker

When Capt Barbosa said - You shot me, and Jack said No I didnt

The ride clip - dead men tells no tales

The wedding The most craziest wedding I have EVER seen! LOVED the part where they were like marry us and Capt Barbosa said Im busy right now And when they were trying to kiss, Capt Barbosa saying just kiss

Poor Capt Jack small telescope But when he pulled out his big long one

The fight scene where Jack and Davy Jones were up there fighting, question - u have 2 ships colliding together plus tilting in the whirlpool, Jack is holding the cheat in 1 arm and a sword in another, how did those 2 keep their balance? Seemed unrealistic but really cool!

LOVED the part where Jack and Barbosa were like what are you doing? No what are you doing? No what are you doing? LOL

I know theres more parts I loved just cant think of them all right now. DH and I might go see and see it again sometime. Not sure though.

 

[briar_rose_59]

A bit OT - what were the after-credit scenes in the first two movies? I don't know if I ever saw them!

First movie was the monkey grabbing a piece of aztec gold and jumping towards the camera (I may be slightly off on that one, but that's the gist of it, let you know that the monkey was going to be undead).
Second movie: "The dog" (the one that keeps appearing through the movies, had the keys on the ride) is the new "king" of the Pelegosto islanders.

HTH

 

[bytheblood]

The movie was quite good, but this point was not maid clear in the film, leading to questions for some about the ending. What would happen to the captain if they did not have a lover to come back to in the first place? Would the curse still be broken, or would they remain captain? If the curse would have been broken, then this aspect of the film would conflict with Jacks motivation for wanting to stab the heart of Jones, as he wanted to be immortal. I think the latter would make more sense. It was a bad move on Disney’s part to exclude such an explanation out of the film, as this may affect peoples’ opinions about the ending.

I agree!

 

[arbeywolf]

We saw this movie today and wow am I glad that I came here because I really didn't work out the whole 10 year curse being lifter part in the after-credits bit.

Thanks to everyone who posted their theory on that, I feel better aboutthe ending now

Overall I really like this movie. Seemed like there was a lot of unnecessary CGI "clutter" just because they could.
I liked it a million times better than Dead Man's Chest, though, but it didn't come close to the original for me.

Curse of the Black Pearl was very story and character driven whereas the sequels, to me anyway, have seems much more like "hey what crazy, neat things can we computer generate in this scene?"

Still, overall, this one was much better paced and just generally more fun than the last. I'm sure we'll go see it again

 

[brenda1966]

count me in as another one who thought Will could only return once every 10 years and stay on land for one day. For that reason I found myself crying again after the final scene as I was leaving the theater. LOL. I'm so glad to hear that may not be true. Thinking that the spell had been broken and he could come home and stay sure makes for a different kind of ending -- a happy one!

 

[eacatwork]

I don't know, but I feel like I'm the odd woman out here out of all these posts!

My DH and I did not enjoy it as much as we thought we would. There was way more violent scenes (the woman getting shot point-blank in the forehead was pretty gruesome) that were pretty explicit. There was way more inuendos and a pretty provocative scene between Will and Elizabeth on the island. We just were not expecting this from Disney, and from the first two films it wasn't apparent there would be these added "features."

You're not the odd woman out. At the end of the movie, my dad asked my mom what she thought and her exact words were, "well...that sucked." He liked it, my hubby thought it sucked, and I remain conflicted (even after reading about how we should have stayed for the credits and final scene).

 

[athenna]

I have to say that I think that Will was returning to Elizabeth permanently.It does not play well with me that he would only get one day with her after ten years. The entire reason DJ was so upset was that calypso/Tia was not waiting there for him and that is why he helped the first brethern committee enslave her in human form. He betrayed her in return for her betrayal of him.

I am a happy ending kind of girl what can I say! I would like for the three of them to be reunited.

As for Jack - he was after the immortality. It looks like he is still going after it on his hunt for the fountain of youth.

You've got it...That's it!