Warning- A rant about Bratz ensues.

It is kind of funny. I don't think anyone has stated that playing with them will turn a kid into a hoochie girl! ;) Although after my daughter received her first Barbie, she had fake ****s, high heels and her Cinderella hair on... :rotfl:

I just think that the marketers had to be on something to come up with the concept of hooker dolls for little girls. Let alone hooker preschoolers.
 
Parents are the only reason these dolls are still around. Very few kids can buy these things on their own.
 
I swore up and down that I would "never ever" have those Bratz things in my house....but as my DD got older and saw them everywhere, it was the only thing she would ask for over and over.

I finally decided that it was better to get the doll and have her sit at the bottom of the toy box unplayed with than to create that "forbidden fruit" thing w/these stupid things.

So now, yes, DD has a couple of these....and doesn't play w/a single one. Her style of clothes have not changed and she does not hope to one day grow up and work at Hooters.

I played w/Barbie as a little girl...I am not a nurse, stewardess, or Malibu girl!
 
They need to be renamed "Horz". They are absolutely ridiculous looking garbage.

Take a look at some of the clothing available for girls in the 7-16 size range. My DD is 8 and it is depressing trying to find something at some stores. I used to love Kohl's when she was little but their bigger girl clothes are just trash. Target is about the best choice lately for her.

Anyway, I would not allow one of those dolls into the house just like I won't let DS play with toy guns. It is the same thing.
 

MrsJackSparrow said:
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Take a look at some of the clothing available for girls in the 7-16 size range. My DD is 8 and it is depressing trying to find something at some stores. I used to love Kohl's when she was little but their bigger girl clothes are just trash. Target is about the best choice lately for her.

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ITA about Kohl's...I don't even take DD8 there anymore to shop for clothes and I really like Kohl's otherwise. I find that I can get her some really cute clothes that she likes too at The Children's Place and Old Navy (some Old Navy clothes I don't buy, but for the most part they are acceptable)
 
DD5 has some Bratz dolls and Screen Scene dolls, and Barbies. The first thing to come off is the clothing anyway.

My mom didn't let me play with Barbies when I was a child. She thought she was "too mature-looking". I am 35 years old and I still have issues about that. I NEVER owned a barbie doll. I remember when I was in 2nd grade, a classmate brought some of hers to school in that neat carrying case along with the clothes. She let me play with them and I was in complete awe. Then she told me she had lots more at her house and she even had a Barbie dollhouse and if it was ok with my mom, I could go to her house and play with them all. The next day, I told her my mom said it was ok (I didn't even ask) and I went home with her afterschool. Her mom came home and called my mom and I got a whupping that left me not able to sit for a week. But to me it was worth that hour of playtime. :lmao: Lots of my friends kept theirs and passed their collection to their DD's. To me Barbies seem such an important part of a girls childhood. I know DD14 loved hers and passed them on to DD5 who has to sleep with 2 or 3. Her eyes light up when we hit that aisle at the store.

I never saw either DD looking at any of their toys as role models. That's my job. They understand it'a fantasy no different than any other dress up game. They have tons of Barbie Princess dolls and gowns but they sure don't princess-like. Furthermore, DD5 and 3 don't know what a hooker or slut or ho is so how would they make that association. They see the 16 and 17 year olds dress worse than that when we go the mall on the weekend!!! :rotfl2: Hmmmmm, maybe THEY were allowed to have Bratz dolls?! ;)
 
taximomfor4 said:
Never really minded them for my kids. My oldest dd (8th grade) started out with them several yrs ago-- got them at her dad's house for birthday or something. Brought them home, and when she got tired of them (around 10 yrs old) gave them to next dd (5 at the time). I didn't really care. DD3 plays with them all the time.

And just for the record, dd12 and dd7 both have a strong aversion to revealing too much (clothing-wise). Oldest dd is beautiful and very trim, but even after several years of playing with Bratz dolls, she is definitely one of the most conservatively dressed kids at her Jr High bus stop. Even dd3 is funny about clothing - skirts have to touch her knees, etc. I am confident that they have not been harmed in any way by playing with bratz, they don't choose their own outfits to try to emulate bratz dolls, and they know the difference between crazy bratz clothes, barbie clothes, and their own clothes.

Sounds like me and my DD. She has dozens of Bratz (and accessories) as well as Barbies and my DD dresses like me! She's nine and doesn't wear make-up, reveal her belly or wear a thong. She watches cartoons and hasn't asked me to turn her into a caricature. She watches Animal Planet non-stop, and she does want to be a Vet. The dolls look like the teenage girls that I see in the mall on a Friday night. My DD is exposed to a lot of positive and negative things, and if she wants to grow up to look like her doll that she plays with at age nine, then I'm doing a piss poor job as a parent.
 
tiff211 said:
DD5 has some Bratz dolls and Screen Scene dolls, and Barbies. The first thing to come off is the clothing anyway.

My mom didn't let me play with Barbies when I was a child. She thought she was "too mature-looking". I am 35 years old and I still have issues about that. I NEVER owned a barbie doll. I remember when I was in 2nd grade, a classmate brought some of hers to school in that neat carrying case along with the clothes. She let me play with them and I was in complete awe. Then she told me she had lots more at her house and she even had a Barbie dollhouse and if it was ok with my mom, I could go to her house and play with them all. The next day, I told her my mom said it was ok (I didn't even ask) and I went home with her afterschool. Her mom came home and called my mom and I got a whupping that left me not able to sit for a week. But to me it was worth that hour of playtime. :lmao: Lots of my friends kept theirs and passed their collection to their DD's. To me Barbies seem such an important part of a girls childhood. I know DD14 loved hers and passed them on to DD5 who has to sleep with 2 or 3. Her eyes light up when we hit that aisle at the store.

I never saw either DD looking at any of their toys as role models. That's my job. They understand it'a fantasy no different than any other dress up game. They have tons of Barbie Princess dolls and gowns but they sure don't princess-like. Furthermore, DD5 and 3 don't know what a hooker or slut or ho is so how would they make that association. They see the 16 and 17 year olds dress worse than that when we go the mall on the weekend!!! :rotfl2: Hmmmmm, maybe THEY were allowed to have Bratz dolls?! ;)


I read your post after I posted mine. We could be twins, my sister! I didn't get a barbie as a child. I whined about it from age 21 to 30, when the people at my job bought me my first one! To me, when the Bratz first came out, they were a little more tame than they are now, and I felt that they looked more like DD than Barbie did. DD just bought the latest one last week. And she'll still go to Bible study tonight :teeth:
 
nealymouse said:
We have a house full of the Bratz.

I hope as a parent I can set a better example then these dolls.
There has been many talks around home about how in real life we would never look or dress like that.
These dolls have opened more conversion about real life then any other toy in our home so at this point they have been a good thing.


I don't think I could have said it better myself. My DD is now 15, but she played with them when they first came out.
 
WOW- I'm gone for 12 hours and full on debate!

Well, after reading through all the responses, I understand the parents who have bought them and said- don't make a fuss and it'll end up in the bottom of the toy box. And no, toys don't HAVE to be role models. I never suggested that by buying Bratz dolls anyone's little girls will suddenly turn into an 80's "Like a Virgin" Madonna look-alike. Obviously everyone is still setting boundaries. Thankfully!!

And I agree with the poster who said we all have to pick our own battles. I am still convinced never to buy these toys. Why support a company who makes little girl dolls that look like hookers? Like I said- I played with Barbie for a LONG time, and I never got breast implants, or dyed my hair blond. But Barbie is a far cry from Bratz. At least every once in a while she had a job- Doctor, Vet, Teacher, whatever.

But come on. "Jump on for a wild ride" on the package of the cowgirl Bratz, who HAPPENS to be wearing next to nothing. MAYBE kids don't see that stuff. Ok. BUT I DO. I know that the ADULTS who marketed this thing intended these highly sexualized dolls to come off as, well, highly sexualized overtly displayed babies/pre-teens. It's creepy.

And don't think that these dolls don't inspire trends in clothing, make-up, and wherever else. Like the posters who said they can't shop at Kohl's. Did you know that Limited Too! and Abercrombie Kids carry thongs for little girls! WHY? I used to work at Wal-Mart- and even in the girls department their were flashy little sting bikini underwears and underwire bras that were too small for cup sizes. And the saddest part, in my book, is that all of these things are still around, so parents are BUYING them. Little kids don't have the spending power.

And then, there's the name. Bratz. And people will complain all day about how kids aren't respectful these days, and they have attitudes, and are self-centered. DUH. AND they are being marketed to, and told that it's fashionable and fun and cool to have Bratz, be Bratz, dress like Bratz. I'm NOT saying Bratz are to blame, but there is a correlation. Do you think this toy would have survived 25 years ago? 35 years ago? No way.

Like I said before, I am NO prude. Not by a looooong shot. I am very straightforward and open about sexuality, and welcome that. But this is being done in a disgusting, trashy manner. You don't have to wear belly shirts to be sexy. Or thong underwear. Or have huge made-up lips and short skirts. Why should little kids, and we're talking young 4, 5, 6 year olds be subjected to this kind of overt sexuality so young? It's not they won't be bombarded with it enough for the rest of their lives.

ETA- good for all of you who have discussed this openly with your kids!!! Regardless of whether or not you bought the doll. My niece, who's 5,and I recently had a long discussion about Bratz, and she has accepted the fact that mommy and Aunt Becky aren't going to budge, and even at 5, she kinda gets it. Now every time we go to a store, she goes, "Those dolls don't have very much on...." :rotfl:
 
Well, now, I hope you are prepared for your niece to be traumatized because she didn't get those dolls!
 
My DD hates them, someone bought her one for her birthday 2 years ago and she never even played with it. :thumbsup2
 
Maybe kids don't have that kind of spending power where you live, beck, but they sure do here! At our local mall, parents will drop their kids off with a fat wad of cash (and I'm talking upper elem-jr high aged here) to go shopping every single weekend/school holiday/school break.

TOV
 
Not for us! DD (5) asks for them al the time but I Just can't do it - prostibabies -give be a Barbie Princess any day!
 
Up until just before Christmas, I swore up and down I would never buy my dd at Bratz doll, for all the same reasons everyone has posted here. But then they came out with the cowgirl ones, and a horse to go with them, and my dd begged me for them! So I bit the bullet and got her a cowgirl and a rocker Bratz doll, a horse and the car. Actually, I think the two dolls I bought her were pretty conservative out of all the ones available - her rocker doll had on jeans and a jacket. I thought about it - my dd's 10, a good kid and I honestly don't think she's going to model her life after a silly doll. My dd is a bit of a tomboy, and part of me was just happy she wanted to still play with dolls! But honestly, I don't think a Bratz doll is going to make my dd want to dress like a hooker any more than a baby doll will make her want to go out and make a baby of her own.
 
My dd is interested in them (she's 7 and all her friends are into them). She knows that she is not allowed to have anything Bratz. No dolls, no clothes, not even a notebook with their pitcure on it. There is no way in the world that she is allowed to play with, dress up like or use anything with those little hooker dolls on them. And the reason we banned ALL Bratz items instead of just certain ones was because I didn't want there to be any gray area for her to be confused about. She's not allowed that's it, period end of story. She doesn't always like it but she she knows. And she knows why. We have talked with her about the way they are dressed and made up and explained that they are just too grown up. In fact, I walked into the after school program the other day and heard her tell another child that she couldn't play with her Bratz dolls because it was against her parents rules and she went to another toy. I was very proud.
 
I think Bratz are fine for an adult collector, someone who collects dolls like the "Living Dead dolls."

If anything they caused Mattel to produce better playline dolls and get the "Generation girl" head mold for playline dolls, that replaced the the odd looking "Superstar" head mold that us 80's girls remember where they had poofy hair and facial screenings of someone who has had a lobeotomy. Also, Bratz does have a lot of cool accesories that I have been known to buy (like the cool London tole booth) for diaramas for my Barbies. ;) Competition causes doll lines not to become stale.

Ahem... That being said

However, for 7 year old???!!! Puuhhhhh leaze!! As someone else said.. I REALLY can't see Bratz dolls being designed by anyone else but a bunch of pervs... :rolleyes:

As I have said about Barbie.... Say what will about Barbie, but the purpose of her was to teach girls they could become anything from a Doctor to a teacher to an astronaut... Do you think Bratz will ever do this??? I don't think so... because I don't think they can make a slutty enough space suit. ;)
 
I don't have a problem w/ them, just a toy.
 
I got my daughter Bratz because she is 12 and still playing with them.

I'd rather my daughter play with dolls that look like hookers than actually look like a hooker like the other kids at JH!

Seriously, I bought them for her because they are "cool" dolls and she wanted them. At 12, I know she won't play for long and her friends are already calling boys and "dating" or whatnot. :rolleyes:
 
My dd is 10 and is big into bratz girls. She got a lot of them for christmas. Her favorite nightgown has lil bratz on it. The nightgown is long sleeved and comes to around her knees (was longer but she grew dang her hahaha).

My dd knows they are a toy..not real life. She loves to have her dresses and skirts go to her ankles if possible. She'll see girls/women wear skimpy clothing and ask what are they thinking? hhaah.

Say what you want about Bratz girls but Barbie's clothes arent much better. My mom actually made barbie and bratz whole new waredrobes out of different material and dd loves it.
 



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