Waiting for DISNEYLAND HOTEL DVC Thread (see post 1 for updates)

[limace]

Oh, I can’t imagine anyway that what-at least two million points?-would sell that quickly.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

Oh, I can’t imagine anyway that what-at least two million points?-would sell that quickly.

Yeah, this is quite different from a specialty popcorn bucket or something like that. But I do think it will go faster than previous DVC resorts.

 

[DonMacGregor]

Yeah, this is quite different from a specialty popcorn bucket or something like that. But I do think it will go faster than previous DVC resorts.

True. But if you look at VGC, the general consensus is that the vast majority of owners there are locals. Demand is so high for VGC, that DVC won't even put you on a waiting list for direct points anymore, and resale points get swallowed up at $285-$300 per point.

Granted, many VGC owners poo-poo DLH, and swear they'll never sell their VGC contracts, but there's obviously a HUGE demand to buy into DVC at Disneyland, coupled with the massive available discretionary income in Southern California. Sell contracts at $225-$235 PP, just a 5 minute further walk away from the parks, with the incredible nostalgia that DLH holds for so many here, and I think you see points fly off the shelf in record time.

The only downside may be the heavy emphasis on the "POD" style studio rooms, but as many others have noted, Disneyland Resort isn't a 7-10 day destination, it's a 4-day trip for most, so a smaller studio without a conventional kitchenette may be what the market merits.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

True. But if you look at VGC, the general consensus is that the vast majority of owners there are locals. Demand is so high for VGC, that DVC won't even put you on a waiting list for direct points anymore, and resale points get swallowed up at $285-$300 per point.

Granted, many VGC owners poo-poo DLH, and swear they'll never sell their VGC contracts, but there's obviously a HUGE demand to buy into DVC at Disneyland, coupled with the massive available discretionary income in Southern California. Sell contracts at $225-$235 PP, just a 5 minute further walk away from the parks, with the incredible nostalgia that DLH holds for so many here, and I think you see points fly off the shelf in record time.

The only downside may be the heavy emphasis on the "POD" style studio rooms, but as many others have noted, Disneyland Resort isn't a 7-10 day destination, it's a 4-day trip for most, so a smaller studio without a conventional kitchenette may be what the market merits.

I agree with everything you said! Heck, I'm on the East coast and would buy in because DLH has nostalgia even for me! I do think it will go quickly, but "hours" just seems impossible. I mean, even just logistically; DVC can't process that many contacts in an hour

 

[upritbass]

just a 5 minute further walk away from the parks

Or not. This week, the CMs told us that Anaheim has approved the rezoning for the proposed park extensions.

 

[DonMacGregor]

Or not. This week, the CMs told us that Anaheim has approved the rezoning for the proposed park extensions.

Yes, they did.

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

Forgive me if “hours” triggered folks. I don’t necessarily mean each contract is signed within hours but what I’m saying is the demand is greater than the supply even with the new hotel. I’ve found that the East and west coast market is so different, I feel like I could live like a king in WDW with our points budget but it just doesn’t stretch as far here in California. Being that we are exclusively Disneyland visitors we see this as our once in a life time opportunity to join DVC because we have to secure a California resort as our home resort to keep us in a booking window where we can actually get rooms.

I’m in constant contact with our DVC rep but at the moment there’s just no information to even give us an idea of what we can expect for price point buy in etc. he did tell me this will not be like other resorts like Aulani or CC where contracts are still available.

Spot on reply! Thanks. Please send all of Tinks dust that when it does become available we can get in! Lol

 

[TinkerTay]

So we just got back from a 9 night VGC trip, and we had a meeting set up with our DVC rep while we were there… he told us that they basically know nothing about anything yet, and had to put us on an update list just to keep us in the loop. So no real news yet, or even a timeframe.
In other news, we walked in for our “welcome home gift” that they kept emailing me about, and walked out with a new Riviera contract…

 

[tjkraz]

Forgive me if “hours” triggered folks. I don’t necessarily mean each contract is signed within hours but what I’m saying is the demand is greater than the supply even with the new hotel. I’ve found that the East and west coast market is so different, I feel like I could live like a king in WDW with our points budget but it just doesn’t stretch as far here in California.

DVC has proven itself rather adept at using price to manipulate demand. They won't allow it to sell out in hours--or even weeks or months--because they'll simply raise the price.

Each DVC resort has a finite supply of points. If you're manufacturing widgets and quickly sell out of the first million units, you fire up the machines and punch out another million. DVC can't put 12-story towers across the entire landscape. So they'll use pricing to keep sales at a pace which produces a steady revenue stream while maximizing the return on every point.

TLDR: If you sold 4 million points at $250 each within 6 months, the only thing it tells me is you should have been charging a lot more than $250. DVC will make sure the new Disneyland project is a minimum 1-2 year sell-out.

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

thanks so much for that update though. I am glad there isn't info that I'm missing out on. congratulations on Riviera! Do you think you will try to get a contract at the new tower if you don't mind me asking?

 

[TinkerTay]

thanks so much for that update though. I am glad there isn't info that I'm missing out on. congratulations on Riviera! Do you think you will try to get a contract at the new tower if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks! And yes, we plan to buy a contract at the new tower, just so we can have some 11 mo priority booking at DL. We are way up NorCal (like the ACTUAL NorCal, 12 hrs away) and DLR is our park. We own at Aulani & Riviera, and have never even been to WDW, or Aulani yet, haha… I was just (today) able to book a 2br for 5 nights at VGC again, for us and some friends for next May, so I feel pretty lucky to be able to get reservations there again. It’s pretty stressful to try to get though, and having to wake up at 5am to book isn’t much fun, lol… but the Grand can’t be beat, and we love it so much, so as long as I can, I will keep using our points there. Hopefully we will be able to plan a long vacay to HI or FL soon though, since we have more points now, and I don’t want to end up with more than we use…

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

Thanks! And yes, we plan to buy a contract at the new tower, just so we can have some 11 mo priority booking at DL. We are way up NorCal (like the ACTUAL NorCal, 12 hrs away) and DLR is our park. We own at Aulani & Riviera, and have never even been to WDW, or Aulani yet, haha… I was just (today) able to book a 2br for 5 nights at VGC again, for us and some friends for next May, so I feel pretty lucky to be able to get reservations there again. It’s pretty stressful to try to get though, and having to wake up at 5am to book isn’t much fun, lol… but the Grand can’t be beat, and we love it so much, so as long as I can, I will keep using our points there. Hopefully we will be able to plan a long vacay to HI or FL soon though, since we have more points now, and I don’t want to end up with more than we use…

Yes that’s legit Nor Cal . This page is making me question if I should try to buy VGC resale & try to get a contract at DLT but I’m just not sure if I feel that brave lol. I’ve never stayed at the grand, the DLH pool seems to fit my kids age a bit better but I do hope to stay soon. I’ve stayed at WDW wilderness lodge and thought that was amazing.

 

[TinkerTay]

Yes that’s legit Nor Cal . This page is making me question if I should try to buy VGC resale & try to get a contract at DLT but I’m just not sure if I feel that brave lol. I’ve never stayed at the grand, the DLH pool seems to fit my kids age a bit better but I do hope to stay soon. I’ve stayed at WDW wilderness lodge and thought that was amazing.

There are definitely benefits to both. We love GCH/VGC, and If I had dedicated VGC points, I don’t think I would have a need for DLT, but in your case, I would just go with wherever would get the most points for the least price, just to have something at DLR. That‘s kind of our plan, since DLT is our chance to get any kind of priority booking on this side of the country. (Not counting Aulani) Length of contract is also something to consider...

Our impatient wait continues for a couple more years, or at least until there’s more of a definite plan and info is actually released…

 

[SeaDis]

Yes that’s legit Nor Cal . This page is making me question if I should try to buy VGC resale & try to get a contract at DLT but I’m just not sure if I feel that brave lol. I’ve never stayed at the grand, the DLH pool seems to fit my kids age a bit better but I do hope to stay soon. I’ve stayed at WDW wilderness lodge and thought that was amazing.

I love a good VGC resale contract, but just some consideration on that:
You may not be able to use those resale VGC points at the new DLT Villas. I don't mean the 11 month window. You may not be able to use them at all. Research the last round of restrictions when Riviera came online and you will see the language about new resorts. You may be limited to the original 14 resorts. Of course, they can change it again so there is no way to know for sure. But I think if demand continues... it is a safe bet.

And I'm in same camp:
You will have absolutely no problem buying points at DLT tower when the sales open. You are in touch with a guide and you will have plenty of time. Take whatever virtual/model tours they offer and enjoy the experience & excitement. It will take a while to sell all those points.

 

[limace]

Thanks! And yes, we plan to buy a contract at the new tower, just so we can have some 11 mo priority booking at DL. We are way up NorCal (like the ACTUAL NorCal, 12 hrs away) and DLR is our park. We own at Aulani & Riviera, and have never even been to WDW, or Aulani yet, haha… I was just (today) able to book a 2br for 5 nights at VGC again, for us and some friends for next May, so I feel pretty lucky to be able to get reservations there again. It’s pretty stressful to try to get though, and having to wake up at 5am to book isn’t much fun, lol… but the Grand can’t be beat, and we love it so much, so as long as I can, I will keep using our points there. Hopefully we will be able to plan a long vacay to HI or FL soon though, since we have more points now, and I don’t want to end up with more than we use…

You have never been to WDW and you just bought at RIV???? Oh man, not sure how that makes sense. If you’re going to use the points elsewhere I’d rescind and pick up more resale.

 

[TinkerTay]

You have never been to WDW and you just bought at RIV???? Oh man, not sure how that makes sense. If you’re going to use the points elsewhere I’d rescind and pick up more resale.

Well, we have plans to go, we just haven’t yet, haha… It’s not like we will never use them there, but we like having freedom to plan trips to wherever we feel like going at the time, or wherever is available for our points we have. Right now is just hard since hubby works All.The.Time.
The trip we just returned from was combined with some work training, and was the first time he’s taken off in 2 years, lol… He’s got a few more years till he retires, and is already a retired Marine. We like to just go when we can, really aren’t that picky as to when/where to go, and work around available dates… There are people who have never even stayed at their home resort and have owned DVC for years. I don’t see us going that route, but I will take full advantage of the benefit to book anywhere that was sold to us when buying in…

 

[CarolynFH]

We like to just go when we can, really aren’t that picky as to when/where to go, and work around available dates…

Be aware that availability at the WDW resorts in the short term (i.e., 3 months or less before checkin) can be very, very limited. Some people, especially those who live near Orlando and can get there in just a few hours, do make it work for short one or two night visits. But trying to plan a week's stay, for example, could mean staying one or two nights here, another night there, etc. DVC, like most timeshares, really is not good if you can't book at least 6 months out, preferably 7 or more. Good luck!

 

[TinkerTay]

Be aware that availability at the WDW resorts in the short term (i.e., 3 months or less before checkin) can be very, very limited. Some people, especially those who live near Orlando and can get there in just a few hours, do make it work for short one or two night visits. But trying to plan a week's stay, for example, could mean staying one or two nights here, another night there, etc. DVC, like most timeshares, really is not good if you can't book at least 6 months out, preferably 7 or more. Good luck!

Oh, I definitely still book months out, I just booked another 5 night trip to VGC in May, haha! We are going to look at planing our WDW trip sometime in the next year or so, and will def use our Riviera points for that… I just need to start researching good times to go, weather, crowds, etc. and figure out how long to go for. I feel a bit overwhelmed with WDW, since I’m so used to DL, but I don’t want to feel like I have to OVER plan for everything. Our grand plan is to have points at WDW, points at Aulani, and points at DLR so we have options… 2 down, 1 to go!

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

I love a good VGC resale contract, but just some consideration on that:
You may not be able to use those resale VGC points at the new DLT Villas. I don't mean the 11 month window. You may not be able to use them at all. Research the last round of restrictions when Riviera came online and you will see the language about new resorts. You may be limited to the original 14 resorts. Of course, they can change it again so there is no way to know for sure. But I think if demand continues... it is a safe bet.

And I'm in same camp:
You will have absolutely no problem buying points at DLT tower when the sales open. You are in touch with a guide and you will have plenty of time. Take whatever virtual/model tours they offer and enjoy the experience & excitement. It will take a while to sell all those points.

Thank you so much! Yes I did consider that about the VGC. I mean i see how it has its downsides for those that travel using all of the DVC resorts but since we have no plans to use DVC points for anywhere but California it doesn't affect us too much. granted my fear is that buying DLT will lend us zero opportunities to stay at VGC using DLT points. One poster on another thread who lives in LA said hes only been able to secure the VGC once for two nights in a row in the 7 month window. that makes me nervous. I wish i had an idea of what point sales are like, the DIS podcast had predictions that DLT would be north of 265.00 which makes me feel like 280.00 for resale GVC is a better use of my money. who knows!

 

[Nirek]

Thank you so much! Yes I did consider that about the VGC. I mean i see how it has its downsides for those that travel using all of the DVC resorts but since we have no plans to use DVC points for anywhere but California it doesn't affect us too much. granted my fear is that buying DLT will lend us zero opportunities to stay at VGC using DLT points. One poster on another thread who lives in LA said hes only been able to secure the VGC once for two nights in a row in the 7 month window. that makes me nervous. I wish i had an idea of what point sales are like, the DIS podcast had predictions that DLT would be north of 265.00 which makes me feel like 280.00 for resale GVC is a better use of my money. who knows!

yeah, but even if the price per point is that close, without a points chart, the relative value is impossible to determine. I’m in the same boat. Every small VGC real sale contract that comes out makes me question my resolve to wait for DLT. I’m out east so only planning for enough points to go every other year. It’s a tough call!