Wait your turn!! New seating rules for CS restaurants at WDW...

[kaytieeldr]

Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant....I can't wait to see what Disney ends up doing.

Ah, okay, thanks. Now I understand!

They're kids, I know what they like and I will ultimately decide what they eat anyway.

YES,VINDICATED!!!! i have taken several beatings on here advocating this and i mean good beatings where the thread was over 80% against me. funny how now people seem to think its a good idea.

Whoa, now! Remember, I’ve always been on the minority side of this issue, right along with you!

Also I don't like being old where to sit. I guess since I usually go offpeak in the fall I don't see many people stressing over seats

Nobody is being told where to sit. The available tables are being pointed out, and the ‘best’ one or ones being suggested – but nobody’s apparently being told they must sit at one particular table. What do you do in sit-down restaurants?

It is a MUCH BIGGER PAIN to wait for a table when you are carrying multiple meals vs. before you have a food when you can just wait in line for the table. I would argue that the people who LIKE THIS POLICY are WAY more self-focused than I am. It means that these people think a table should just 'magically appear' for them after getting their food, instead of waiting for it like the ones who choose to do so beforehand.

Again, in the one location where this is being tested during peak travel times, it IS working. SEVERAL posters now have reported needing to get their food and have their parties together first, then immediately upon arriving at the seating area being directed to any of a number of available tables. It’s working. And, um, that’s an interesting assessment of people who (a) may not be in a position to find a table first, or (b) may not realize many others are camping out at tables waiting for their food to arrive (a la a table service restaurant, or (c) may just feel it’s wrong to grab a table before their food is ready.

I have been known to put my young kids at a table right next to the line so that I could wait in line while they waited and had a snack out of our bag right next to me at the table. This, too, wouldn't be 'allowed' anymore

It doesn’t sound like the tables at Pecos Bill’s are in the same room as the ordering lines (it’s been a number of years since I’ve eaten there). What do you do in a case like that?

And the 'rush to beat someone to the table' thing....no, I would never do this - I wait my turn for a table. So, if I've been waiting the longest - yes, I would take it. But I would never rush ahead of someone who's been waiting longer.

So if you were heading for a table at the same time as someone with a tray of food, you wouldn’t take it even if you were closer, correct? Because if you don’t have your food yet, that person HAS been waiting longer – even if you were scoping out the tables first.

 

[Mom2Evie]

anyone who has been lately with new seating arrangements notice whether or not tables for 6 and 8 are readily available under the new system? This is our only difficulty with this, we need to all be together to share food, help with cups, bibs, cutting up food etc. ?

anyone notice large parties being able to get table together in timely fashion? It is one of the reasons we usually sit then order (also to figure out our order ahead instead of in line while others are forced to wait while we try to make up all of our collective minds!

I remember a party of six walking into our dining room at Pizzafari when this was in effect. There wereseveral tables large enough to hold them. Well, two larger table and a few empty smaller tables that could be pulled together. A party of 5 walked in and sat at another just before we left. Hubby & I were really surprised at how well things flowed and were stunned at the number of empty tables considering we were there Easter week.

I hope this new plan works to your advantage. From what we saw, it should be a great benefit to larger parties. Best of luck & enjoy your vacation!

 

[SlightlyGoofy]

Good morning Faye!!

There, I am rested up and in a more humane frame of mind.

What I was trying to say last night and did not convey well is that I do not care if folks like the idea or not. Everyone has their own ideas about things. Good for them!

It is just hollering at each other cause they do not agree that gets my knickers in a bunch. It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable and calling each other names or demanding that others conform to our ideas is not nice. I doubt that most think they are coming off that way however when they use that sort of language while complaining about the 'me' factor it is very funny, to me.

When I eat in a restaurant I like to be able to see the front area. It is a quirk of mine. I do not throw fits if I cannot though. I will sometimes bypass one place cause it is packed and busy and I am not apt to get seating to suit me. That is my choice. If the restaurant cares or not who knows. If they are busy, probably not. If they seem to be losing business they will change or perish. It is capitalism and it works.

Maybe Disney should just put in conveyor belts with privacy screens between each section so that the guests do not have to interact with each other? It seems that what is messing up the perfection of Disney World is the other folks. Life is messy. China seems to have a way around that though. I think I will stay here and deal with it.

Each family is different and has different needs or even perceptions. I am positive that Disney will work it out well in the end. They have the best track record of any park system for taking care of their guests.

Also they have US keeping them on their toes.

Have a great day all!

Slightly Goofy

 

[brymolmom]

So if you were heading for a table at the same time as someone with a tray of food, you wouldn’t take it even if you were closer, correct? Because if you don’t have your food yet, that person HAS been waiting longer – even if you were scoping out the tables first.

Not necessarily - If I'm waiting for a specific table I very well could have been waiting longer than someone in line (and I have to wait AGAIN to get my food, once I've secured a table), so no - just because they have the tray does not mean they get front of the line service if I've been waiting longer (obviously, impossible to tell but I'm sure I've been waiting for that specific table longer).

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

It doesn’t sound like the tables at Pecos Bill’s are in the same room as the ordering lines (it’s been a number of years since I’ve eaten there). What do you do in a case like that?

No, you're right. The ordering lines are in a room where the condiments are, and the tables are in a different room altogether. That's what makes PB's so perfect for this system. As the food purchaser goes through the line, the rest of the party is in plain view, getting napkins, coniments, etc. and can be easily found by the food purchaser before sitting down.

One of the problems that we had with the old system was that my wife would go and search out a table with our daughter (we only had one at the time) and then I would have to stumble around with a full tray of food to search them out!

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

I don't like the system and I am NOT a 'me - me' person. I am MORE THAN WILLING to wait my turn for a table, but IMO you should wait your turn for a table BEFORE you have food in hand vs. after. It is a MUCH BIGGER PAIN to wait for a table when you are carrying multiple meals vs. before you have a food when you can just wait in line for the table. That's why I always (in the past - I'll let you know about after our upcoming trip) wait, patiently, for a table prior to going up to eat.

I would argue that the people who LIKE THIS POLICY are WAY more self-focused than I am. It means that these people think a table should just 'magically appear' for them after getting their food, instead of waiting for it like the ones who choose to do so beforehand.

I have to agree that the people who expect a table to magically appear are way more self-focused. However you look at this, I still feel that the smart people are the ones who plan ahead and get a table for themselves and their family before getting their food. The ones who get their food before finding a table seem to whine an awful lot, reminding me of my daughter who says, "That's not fair, I wanted to sit there", even though her sister got there first.

 

[darrose]

No, you're right. The ordering lines are in a room where the condiments are, and the tables are in a different room altogether. That's what makes PB's so perfect for this system. As the food purchaser goes through the line, the rest of the party is in plain view, getting napkins, coniments, etc. and can be easily found by the food purchaser before sitting down.

One of the problems that we had with the old system was that my wife would go and search out a table with our daughter (we only had one at the time) and then I would have to stumble around with a full tray of food to search them out!

Are you sure you want to admit your wife was a former table saver?

Glad to know that you guys used to save tables too. Makes me hopeful that with the new test restaurant I will end up loving the new system too.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I remember a party of six walking into our dining room at Pizzafari when this was in effect. There wereseveral tables large enough to hold them. Well, two larger table and a few empty smaller tables that could be pulled together. A party of 5 walked in and sat at another just before we left. Hubby & I were really surprised at how well things flowed and were stunned at the number of empty tables considering we were there Easter week.

I hope this new plan works to your advantage. From what we saw, it should be a great benefit to larger parties. Best of luck & enjoy your vacation!

I agree and found the same situation at PB's regarding larger parties. Mind you, this was during the typically maniacal 12:30 pm lunch rush during the 4th of July holiday week. It was pretty impressive, although I wouldn't expect any less from Disney!

 

[fAnnF]

I'll have to see it in action before I pass judgement. I don't know if I'm going at what they call peak times, but if I see it, I'm sure I'll find out if I like it or not. My guess it that it will be fine, but I wondering if their going to put a limit on how long you can sit there in order to keep the place moving and seats opening up.

 

[jparc]

I have to agree that the people who expect a table to magically appear are way more self-focused. However you look at this, I still feel that the smart people are the ones who plan ahead and get a table for themselves and their family before getting their food. The ones who get their food before finding a table seem to whine an awful lot, reminding me of my daughter who says, "That's not fair, I wanted to sit there", even though her sister got there first.

I see what you are saying - "it's makes more sense for you to save a table, while others who have gotten their food, have to stand and wait for a table to appear, while you sit and wait 15 to 20 minutes for your food to arrive."

Nice.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Are you sure you want to admit your wife was a former table saver?

Glad to know that you guys used to save tables too. Makes me hopeful that with the new test restaurant I will end up loving the new system too.

Guilty as charged!!

We saved tables because we had to and never really gave it much thought. It was what it was, and you gotta do what you gotta do. However, after we experienced the new system, we were absolutely shocked at how well it worked. You've got to remember, when we went to PB's that day for lunch, we had never heard of this system before so it was a complete surprise. From past experience, we had totally assumed that we were going to have to save a table and were dreading the whole stressful routine. That's why I'm so glad that Disney's working on a system that can take the edge off, even if it is during the busier seasons. It was nice to see that it worked so well.

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

So if one of those tables overlooking IASW opened up and someoen was walking towards them with a tray of food would you rush to get there before them or let them have the table? I've walked around with a tray before and had people who hadn't even ordered yet cut me off to get to a table that I was heading to. People also did this when my mom took me and my brother to WDW after her and my dad got divoriced (so we were one adult with two young children).

Also, don't assume that everyone has the choice of getting a table ahead of time. A single parent with small kids can't get a table ahead of time, a solo traveller can't get a table ahead of time, someone travelling with a person who has special needs may not be able to get a table ahead of time, when there is more than one tray needing to be carried a table can't always be saved ahead of time. If you're lucky enough to have this choice then I'm sure it's the most convenient thing for you, but just because not everyone has the capability of saving tables it doesn't mean they showed poor planning or weren't smart enough to do it.

Well, yes, if my children and I are already headed to the table overlooking IASW, prime table for my girls, yes I would sit there with my girls while Dad goes for the food. I have paid just as money as the other person to get into MK and my girls love to sit in the seats overlooking IASW. We would not run over somebody who was ahead of us, but if we are headed to that table and we get there first, you bet we are parking ourselves there for our meal!! I would not get up and move just because another person has food in their hands. We are purchasing food, also. There are always plenty of seats at Pinocchio's and you can always find one somewhere.
I am sorry if a single mom has 2 little ones to handle alone, but I did not create that situation, and my children , , , are number one when we are at WDW. Some may call that selfish, but I call it Family!!!

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

I see what you are saying - "it's makes more sense for you to save a table, while others who have gotten their food, have to stand and wait for a table to appear, while you sit and wait 15 to 20 minutes for your food to arrive."

Nice.

Please do not try to quote something if I never said it. I was responding to the other poster who said that the more self absorbed people are the ones who expect a table to magically appear for them. I will not argue with you, but please don't take my words out of context and try to make them something that they are not.

 

[jparc]

Well, yes, if my children and I are already headed to the table overlooking IASW, prime table for my girls, yes I would sit there with my girls while Dad goes for the food. I have paid just as money as the other person to get into MK and my girls love to sit in the seats overlooking IASW. We would not run over somebody who was ahead of us, but if we are headed to that table and we get there first, you bet we are parking ourselves there for our meal!! I would not get up and move just because another person has food in their hands. We are purchasing food, also. There are always plenty of seats at Pinocchio's and you can always find one somewhere.
I am sorry if a single mom has 2 little ones to handle alone, but I did not create that situation, and my children , , , are number one when we are at WDW. Some may call that selfish, but I call it Family!!!

"ME-ME-ME"! Well Disney is trying to address your "selfishness" (your words describing yourself, not mine). What a nice thing to teach your children, to be selfish. WE ARE NUMBER ONE AT DISNEY - ALL OTHERS ARE LESS! You seem to be saying.

Nice.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Not necessarily - If I'm waiting for a specific table I very well could have been waiting longer than someone in line (and I have to wait AGAIN to get my food, once I've secured a table), so no - just because they have the tray does not mean they get front of the line service if I've been waiting longer (obviously, impossible to tell but I'm sure I've been waiting for that specific table longer).

So, if a different table became available while you were waiting for the specific table, you wouldn’t take that second one, of course… Anyway., iif you’ve been waiting for a specific table and your food hasn’t even been ordered yet, the person with the tray of food DOES take precedence over the Guest who just walked into the restaurant and grabbed or staked out or scoped out a table – they waited in line to order, they paid, they waited in line for the food, then they expected to sit and eat. The service the restaurant provides is the food. Having food in hand purchased at a given location reasonably should give that person precedence over someone just entering the restaurant.

I have to agree that the people who expect a table to magically appear are way more self-focused. However you look at this, I still feel that the smart people are the ones who plan ahead and get a table for themselves and their family before getting their food.

Magically appear? No. But in the natural flow, yes, tables should be available for diners when they are prepared to eat – and that’s how this test appears to be working, successfully. Otherwise, you might as well just make it a table service restaurant - because, really, isn’t that what you’re doing, turning a counter service venue into one where you get seated (or seat yourself) first, then your food arrives?

I'll have to see it in action before I pass judgement.

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We would not run over somebody who was ahead of us, but if we are headed to that table and we get there first, you bet we are parking ourselves there for our meal!!

So, you would do that even if the person who paid just as much as you to be in the park/at WDW was heading for the same table with a tray of food even though your food hasn’t been ordered yet? And you think that’s reasonable, that it’s not the ‘me-me-me’ attitude someone mentioned earlier in this thread? I’m not talking about beating out another party who’s also just walked in and is seeking an IASW-view table while someone else in their party also gets in line to order.

 

[jparc]

Please do not try to quote something if I never said it. I was responding to the other poster who said that the more self absorbed people are the ones who expect a table to magically appear for them. I will not argue with you, but please don't take my words out of context and try to make them something that they are not.

I didn't take words "out of context" I quoted you. Next time, put in your post in your reply if you feel I am inaccurate in my assessment of your post. If you don't want to argue with me, then don't respond.

 

[kimbac3]

I see what you are saying - "it's makes more sense for you to save a table, while others who have gotten their food, have to stand and wait for a table to appear, while you sit and wait 15 to 20 minutes for your food to arrive."

Nice.

Actually, what I think she's saying is that it's prudent to plan ahead. I wouldn't walk up to a busy hotel and expect a room. I guess I could get lucky and score one, but that's iffy and may not be the best choice for me or my family. So to get what I personally need for myself and family I wisely plan ahead. That's how I see this topic. It's just smarter to plan ahead.

The food court at our mall is always packed. And not with people who paid good money to be there and are in a hurry to get back out to the action. It's packed with teenagers just hanging out, old ladies, just hanging out, as well as people actually eating or yes...gasp....waiting for their food. It is absolutely imperative to find a table first. Usually I am just finding a table by the time DH gets the food. It's a lot harder to find a table for 5 or more. Add to that the wheelchair issue and it's almost impossible. If we didn't plan ahead we'd be standing there with our food waiting for a table to "magically" appear. That, to me would be stupid. The food court area is so vast we'd be wandering all over. And wandering in a wheelchair (or a stroller), while carrying food is not easy!!

So as long as the "saving a table" option is still legal we will still do it. For me and mine it just makes sense. Actually up until I read all these threads on the Dis I couldn't believe there were any people with more than 2 in their party that wouldn't do this.

I guess for some people that's just what they do and that's fine, as long as you are ok with families like mine that do what we need to do.

Hopefully it won't effect me in my September trip. We don't do Pecos Bill's anyway. But if it does, and I have a problem with it I will most certainly be voicing my opinion to all the proper people.

Kimba

 

[jparc]

Actually, what I think she's saying is that it's prudent to plan ahead. I wouldn't walk up to a busy hotel and expect a room. I guess I could get lucky and score one, but that's iffy and may not be the best choice for me or my family. So to get what I personally need for myself and family I wisely plan ahead. That's how I see this topic. It's just smarter to plan ahead.

The food court at our mall is always packed. And not with people who paid good money to be there and are in a hurry to get back out to the action. It's packed with teenagers just hanging out, old ladies, just hanging out, as well as people actually eating or yes...gasp....waiting for their food. It is absolutely imperative to find a table first. Usually I am just finding a table by the time DH gets the food. It's a lot harder to find a table for 5 or more. Add to that the wheelchair issue and it's almost impossible. If we didn't plan ahead we'd be standing there with our food waiting for a table to "magically" appear. That, to me would be stupid. The food court area is so vast we'd be wandering all over. And wandering in a wheelchair (or a stroller), while carrying food is not easy!!





Kimba

That's the whole IDEA of the new system. You wouldn't have to be PRUDENT, the table would be available after you ordered and you would be directed to an open table by a cast member so you wouldn't be wandering around.

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

Actually, what I think she's saying is that it's prudent to plan ahead. I wouldn't walk up to a busy hotel and expect a room. I guess I could get lucky and score one, but that's iffy and may not be the best choice for me or my family. So to get what I personally need for myself and family I wisely plan ahead. That's how I see this topic. It's just smarter to plan ahead.

The food court at our mall is always packed. And not with people who paid good money to be there and are in a hurry to get back out to the action. It's packed with teenagers just hanging out, old ladies, just hanging out, as well as people actually eating or yes...gasp....waiting for their food. It is absolutely imperative to find a table first. Usually I am just finding a table by the time DH gets the food. It's a lot harder to find a table for 5 or more. Add to that the wheelchair issue and it's almost impossible. If we didn't plan ahead we'd be standing there with our food waiting for a table to "magically" appear. That, to me would be stupid. The food court area is so vast we'd be wandering all over. And wandering in a wheelchair (or a stroller), while carrying food is not easy!!

So as long as the "saving a table" option is still legal we will still do it. For me and mine it just makes sense. Actually up until I read all these threads on the Dis I couldn't believe there were any people with more than 2 in their party that wouldn't do this.

I guess for some people that's just what they do and that's fine, as long as you are ok with families like mine that do what we need to do.

Hopefully it won't effect me in my September trip. We don't do Pecos Bill's anyway. But if it does, and I have a problem with it I will most certainly be voicing my opinion to all the proper people.

Kimba

Very well said, thank you very much. As the mother of a handicapped child with a wheelchair, I do need to find our seat ahead of time, while hubby goes to order food. We do what we need to do!!

 

[moviegirl11]

I think this is a great idea. People with food first get a table first. Makes sense to me.