VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

This just in :p...at OKW, Disney has announced that they are building a new DVC resort on the OKW property. They are going to build new deluxe villas on the banks of the existing waterway. On all the areas that used to be golf course, they will build beautifully themed Bedouin tent villas surrounding lush waterways. They have announced that they will rename the new resort Plush Oasis Villas & Tents.

The original resort will be renamed the Great Sahara Villas. To accomplish this new direction, they are also going to strip most of the current lush landscaping around the resort.

Disney reports that all this is to enhance the DVC experience, and is based on owner feedback.

Got this from the Bus Drivers, Huh !?!
 

I'll tell you what Sandy and I do....

Several years ago, we got US Passports. Each trip, we carry these, and lock 'em in the safe.

We have not needed to USE these yet.... but in the event we are robbed & lose our Driver's Licencese's in the process? We can board a plane.
In the event the TSA decides it does not "like" a state License (they have been working on this for a good 4 years) - we have Pass Ports.
If an airline stink occurs - and we have to get home through Canada? we have passports.

So - all personal opinion, others may disagree, this is just what WE do. We have US Passports.

I also have passports (and have had continually since my early teens) and have made use of them for things other than traveling -- they are an excellent all-on-one piece of ID to have (photo, government issued; identity + photograph + citizenship) and quite versatile. For the USA I got the passport card as well as the passport book, and have made use of both in different situations. I am quite excited that Canada now has 10 year passports as an option - fewer renewals :-)

As for VWL. Now that Disney has released their end of 2017 cruise itineraries (with no Hawaii...) we have decided our dates for our December 2017 trip to WDW and cruise on the Fantasy.

My sister REALLY wants to stay at the Polynesian (we never have), so our trip will start with 2 nights at the Poly (probably a standard room, though the shower in the DVC studio is pretty appealing........). We will then switch to the Hyatt inside MCO and the next morning plan to be on the first bus to the Port. Then either one or two weeks on the Disney Fantasy. Then back to WDW for one night at WL -- we have stayed many times at WL and so are trying to decide which room type; I am leaning towards VWL, but we prefer the main building. Perhaps the new south wing Copper Creek rooms (assuming that is what they are) will be available by Dec 2017 and we can try one of the new rooms :-)

So: Poly(2 nights)-Hyatt(1 night)-Disney Fantasy B2B-WL/VWL/CCVC(1 night)

SW
 
The latest "update," though it doesn't really contain anything new except what I perceive to be Disney's attempt to really, really, REALLY convince us that things will be okay. It's gonna be super-duper, extra-gooey, stupendously better themed. :rolleyes:

http://dvcnews.com/index.php/resort...novations-will-expand-upon-boulder-ridge-name

The one thing I am reading out of it, that it will still keep the railway theme, however now instead of it being just a generic railway settlement, it now is a specific one: Boulder Ridge. :crazy:
 
I don't trust it.
"the name will not be the only thing changing. This "Boulder Ridge" identity will make its way throughout the resort, including the renovated Hidden Springs pool which will re-open with a new name and modified theme."
This gives them carte blanche to not return the "wilderness" to our home. You remember the trees! I'm afraid that's all they will be a memory. If I wanted a resort without trees I'd own at any of the others.
 
The latest "update," though it doesn't really contain anything new except what I perceive to be Disney's attempt to really, really, REALLY convince us that things will be okay. It's gonna be super-duper, extra-gooey, stupendously better themed. :rolleyes:

http://dvcnews.com/index.php/resort...novations-will-expand-upon-boulder-ridge-name

Here's the line that jumped out at me:

"the transition from The Villas at Disney’s Wilderness Lodge to Boulder Ridge Villas at Disney’s Wilderness Lodge allows Imagineers to further explore the Resort’s rugged roots."

Rugged roots? When you think of rugged terrain, does a forest spring to mind?
 
Hey, but the main lodge is still the Wilderness Lodge - so there MUST be some wilderness left!! And the current state is not a lot of wilderness at all, so some needs to return!
 
Hey, but the main lodge is still the Wilderness Lodge - so there MUST be some wilderness left!! And the current state is not a lot of wilderness at all, so some needs to return!

I hope you're right. :thumbsup2
I just don't trust it. It's very expensive to bring in fully grown trees and judging by what Disney is doing at the moment - the idolatry of the bottom line - they won't foot this expense. They already have our money - they don't need to impress us or satisfy our expectations - the newbies won't know what they're missing and will buy.

To use an expression I've seen on another thread - Has VWL been "Shanghaied".
 
So this is what I always understood the theme to be. This is the current story from allears:

"Adjacent to Disney's Wilderness Lodge a team of railroad workers discovers a spectacular property -- complete with lakes, trees and majestic mountains rising in the distance (Splash Mountain and Space Mountain, that is!).

These intrepid explorers decide this is the spot -- the perfect spot to set up camp as they build the transcontinental railway. They build themselves a new homestead and when it's time to move on, they leave it behind to be "re-discovered'' by Disney Vacation Club... and so the story goes!

Like Disney's Wilderness Lodge, the new resort is inspired by the tall timber and grandeur of the Rocky Mountain national park geyser country. In keeping with Disney's legendary entertainment heritage, the DVC resort will build on the storyline "imagineered'' for Disney's Wilderness Lodge property, which describes the new structure as actually "pre-dating'' Disney's Wilderness Lodge through a design reminiscent of turn-of-the century hotels built by early railroad workers in the old West national park region."


Turn of the century railroad hotel
Tall Timbers
Rocky Mountain national park geyser country
lakes
trees

Uh, yeah. Already pretty richly themed. Others have speculated the names are coming from either Alaska or the Northwest, neither which were on the transcontinental railway, nor even close.

One thing that stood out to me from the additional info from DVC was this: "Disney’s Old Key West Resort, which opened in 1991 as Disney Vacation Club Resort, later adopted its more richly themed name as other Disney Vacation Club Resorts joined the neighborhood. Just as the Disney’s Old Key West Resort name distinguished the Resort from its neighbors and allowed Imagineers to more deeply explore the Resort’s thematic connections to the Florida Keys"

That name predates me in DVC but from what I've gathered there wasn't any big theme change. Instead, wasn't that about the time they started removing all the little things like the peach towels, etc that made it seem more like home? That's what I've gathered from OKW owners who are like I expect to be, still talking about bubbling pools and trees and VWL 15 years from now. :sad1:
 
Hey groupies. I'm back from my mission. We took the boat over on our MK day. A few pics to follow. DH was a little shocked when he saw the condition of the place. It's even changed a lot since I was there in March. We got lunch & took it to Trout Pass to eat (having in mind chatting up the bartenders of course). I can report that the new monstrosity on the beach (it really is huge) is what we've all pretty much known it would be. The official line "a new enhanced food & beverage area". The bartender we talked to said they were given the ok just last week to say that. I did inquire whether Trout Pass would be closed. She said they hadn't been told but given the close proximity to the new "enhanced" area my prediction is they will level Trout Pass. It's just a matter of time. One other thing I found out which to be honest really burned my breeches was with the name change current employees (assuming bartenders & food service here) will all have to reapply for their existing jobs. No guarantee they will get them & seniority means nothing. Really Disney? Really???!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Bad enough you try to spin all these changes are based on member feedback (no one asked me my opinion!) but this is how you treat your employees? Not making me feel so magical toward them. Our 7 mo. window opened while we were down there. DH said he wants no part of staying there right now & the boys said the same. We tried for BLT but couldn't get all the days so we're now at BCV.

Given the new name & the condition of the property I'm not seeing that wilderness is coming back. I don't think the name Boulder is by accident. It's a lot cheaper to put in rocks then it is to replant trees. :headache:

A few pictures. Unfortunately we got the large boat going over which pulls in on the wrong side to get a clear shot of the beach. The first couple shots are of the construction on the Lodge side. A lot more trees gone from this area then when I was there in March.

The last photo is where our beloved Mickey topiary used to be. Doesn't look like it's coming back to me. And the bison are still gone too. :sad2:20160521_130052.jpg 20160521_130114.jpg 20160521_130140.jpg 20160521_130745.jpg 20160521_141100.jpg 20160521_141111.jpg 20160521_141206.jpg
 
Thanks for the update Julie! Hope you had a great trip!!!

The employee thing is really pretty poor. :sad2: Not that I needed more reasons to dislike CCCV, there it is, one more.
 
So this is what I always understood the theme to be. This is the current story from allears:

"Adjacent to Disney's Wilderness Lodge a team of railroad workers discovers a spectacular property -- complete with lakes, trees and majestic mountains rising in the distance (Splash Mountain and Space Mountain, that is!).

These intrepid explorers decide this is the spot -- the perfect spot to set up camp as they build the transcontinental railway. They build themselves a new homestead and when it's time to move on, they leave it behind to be "re-discovered'' by Disney Vacation Club... and so the story goes!

Like Disney's Wilderness Lodge, the new resort is inspired by the tall timber and grandeur of the Rocky Mountain national park geyser country. In keeping with Disney's legendary entertainment heritage, the DVC resort will build on the storyline "imagineered'' for Disney's Wilderness Lodge property, which describes the new structure as actually "pre-dating'' Disney's Wilderness Lodge through a design reminiscent of turn-of-the century hotels built by early railroad workers in the old West national park region."


Turn of the century railroad hotel
Tall Timbers
Rocky Mountain national park geyser country
lakes
trees

Uh, yeah. Already pretty richly themed. Others have speculated the names are coming from either Alaska or the Northwest, neither which were on the transcontinental railway, nor even close.

One thing that stood out to me from the additional info from DVC was this: "Disney’s Old Key West Resort, which opened in 1991 as Disney Vacation Club Resort, later adopted its more richly themed name as other Disney Vacation Club Resorts joined the neighborhood. Just as the Disney’s Old Key West Resort name distinguished the Resort from its neighbors and allowed Imagineers to more deeply explore the Resort’s thematic connections to the Florida Keys"

That name predates me in DVC but from what I've gathered there wasn't any big theme change. Instead, wasn't that about the time they started removing all the little things like the peach towels, etc that made it seem more like home? That's what I've gathered from OKW owners who are like I expect to be, still talking about bubbling pools and trees and VWL 15 years from now. :sad1:
Don't see anything about boulders in that description . ...:(
 
Thanks Julie for your most excellent sleuthing! Makes me sad though...
 
Wishing Kathy and Le a very Happy Anniversary! Hope its special in every way! :lovestruc
 



















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