VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

I've personally come to conclusion that while Disney memories are warm and comforting, there are many other memories to make with loved ones that cost less or nothing at all. Don't get me wrong--I have some amazing memories throughout the years that bear the distinct mark of Disney...and pictures to go with many of those. I may yet have some more.
Sleepy...great points. If we weren't taking my daughter/husband/grandchildren we would probably move on from WDW with our amazing memories of trips. But it seems we are satisfied with our less frequent trips, and less emphasis on the parks. We got a good 26 year run with WDW, and that's not bad in this day and age.
 
I've personally come to conclusion that while Disney memories are warm and comforting, there are many other memories to make with loved ones that cost less or nothing at all. Don't get me wrong--I have some amazing memories throughout the years that bear the distinct mark of Disney...and pictures to go with many of those. I may yet have some more.

My perspective has changed of late, though. My wife and I will sit on the porch or the deck, gaze at the blue mountains, watch the lazy swoops of birds high in the sky, listen to the wind in the treetops, see deer in the neighbor's apple trees across the draw, and occasionally hear the eerie wail of coyotes as dusk approaches. We're reminded just how fortunate we are to have each other, how blessed we are to share the quieter moments. At this point, Disney has become a bit of a distant friend, one we'll visit from time to time, but likely not go into the parks. We went to Kidani earlier this year and just sat on that balcony and watched, yep, nature unfold. Great memory to be sure.

On that note, I might also make mention that--gulp--I had an ad pop up on my feed about the new Epic Universe at US opening on 25 May 2025. Looks pretty darn cool. The pricing for US parks was even better: $117 for a 3-day park pass with one day at the original US, one day at Islands of Adventures, and one day at the new Epic Universe. If you want to upgrade, you can do a 3-day pass where you can go in between the two current parks and Volcano Bay at will, plus one set day at Epic. Cost? $157. Perhaps there are wonderful memories to be made there in our future. . . pirate:
I have realized that we cannot, and frankly, do not want, to recreate what we did with our DD in the early 90’s; going every year or two until she was in middle school and then going about every 3 or 4 years. First of all, we cannot afford it. But I am also not enjoying the planning the way I used to. I think I have reached my “enough is too much” stage of Disney trips. Our Kidani trip 2 years ago was just right. I was able to get a DAS pass (can’t do that anymore) and we used that and stand-by and didn’t care how many rides we did. Now, everything feels like so much work. And so much time!! I am looking forward to after our trip and not feeling like I have to keep up with every change they make. I think I need a break. I will still hang out here though, and in my photo groups. :) 💕
 
I'm not rose colored glasses anymore about WDW as I once was. And during Covid, I was really put out with them. Wearing a mask in the hot sun was not a good idea for me as I already have asthmatic issues, which was just compounded by the masks.

FF to now, we have 3 grands who I love to share WDW and DVC with(to the point we bought more points recently). We talk about how much disdain we have with Disney and the money grab, and how Walt would be really disappointed with the way the company is today. His whole idea was the pace to be where families could spend time together. How can the average family afford it?

But we will continue to go, but may scale back on parks when grands aren't with us in the future.
 
FF to now, we have 3 grands who I love to share WDW and DVC with(to the point we bought more points recently).

Jimmy...I'm with you...it's all about the grandkids at this point. And I'm happy that our DVC contracts will expire when my grandkids have finished high school. That timing should work out great, though I'm not sure I'll be around to see it.

We talk about how much disdain we have with Disney and the money grab, and how Walt would be really disappointed with the way the company is today. His whole idea was the pace to be where families could spend time together. How can the average family afford it?

I agree with you about the costs, yet see the crowds continue to grow. So clearly, average families are figuring a way to afford it. I'm just hoping that they aren't putting it on credit cards and putting themselves into a financial bind. Or worse yet, prioritizing Disney trips over key things like education costs and retirement planning.

You would think at some increased price, Disney will reach a tipping point and start to decline in attendance. But they continue to build and sell DVC resorts, thus assuring them at least of some minimum annual attendance.
 

Jimmy...I'm with you...it's all about the grandkids at this point. And I'm happy that our DVC contracts will expire when my grandkids have finished high school. That timing should work out great, though I'm not sure I'll be around to see it.



I agree with you about the costs, yet see the crowds continue to grow. So clearly, average families are figuring a way to afford it. I'm just hoping that they aren't putting it on credit cards and putting themselves into a financial bind. Or worse yet, prioritizing Disney trips over key things like education costs and retirement planning.

You would think at some increased price, Disney will reach a tipping point and start to decline in attendance. But they continue to build and sell DVC resorts, thus assuring them at least of some minimum annual attendance.
Disney invented the term "If you build it, they will come."
Increasing population combined with the must-haves as dictated through social media have only assisted in making sure Disney's still at the top of the game for theme park destinations.

The quiet side of Disney is still fairly unknown to many though. The resorts are magic. I am at the point where I can do without the parks, reverting to my own parent's approach when we'd camp in Fort Wilderness and hit up the Magic Kingdom for only two days out of the entire week stay. (However I am very interested in seeing EPIC Universe as it looks incredible.)

Anyone note the New Year's Eve dinner & celebration party atop the Contemporary cost? LOL. I just can't imagine what about standing on a roof with strangers at midnight could make it worth $800.
 
Hello VWL Experts! I saw these posters in a WDWNT room tour video of the 1 BR Villa. Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase these exact prints anywhere? I'm especially interested in the Lake Elias poster because we named our son Elias. TIA!


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We are not ignoring your question. I am not aware of these prints being sold anywhere. I ran a quick check on eBay and no luck. Good luck with your search!
 
We are not ignoring your question. I am not aware of these prints being sold anywhere. I ran a quick check on eBay and no luck. Good luck with your search!
When's the next refub scheduled? I'm sure the actual pics will be available in one of those outlet locations at that time.
 
LavaMama
We are not ignoring your question. I am not aware of these prints being sold anywhere. I ran a quick check on eBay and no luck. Good luck with your search!
Same here, was hoping someone had a firm answer for you. When we were there back in Oct 23, the same question arose, so I checked the Mercantile but no posters or pictures. We will be there again in Dec this year so I will look at Mercantile and ask if they know how to get hands on the prints
 
Hello VWL Experts! I saw these posters in a WDWNT room tour video of the 1 BR Villa. Does anyone know if it is possible to purchase these exact prints anywhere? I'm especially interested in the Lake Elias poster because we named our son Elias. TIA!


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I had gotten some ride prints off of Etsy. I looked on there for these but I didn't see these. Just some other Wilderness Lodge ones
 
Random question. Does anyone know if when you order magic bands from the Disney website is it obvious from what is on the box what they are? I want to order one for DH for Christmas and naturally I don't want him to see the box and know what it is.
 
Random question. Does anyone know if when you order magic bands from the Disney website is it obvious from what is on the box what they are? I want to order one for DH for Christmas and naturally I don't want him to see the box and know what it is.
Worry not! It’s an ordinary shipping box, and the label says it comes from the Experience Connections Center in Davenport, FL, so unless the FL return address makes him suspicious, I don’t think he’ll figure it out. Merry Christmas!
 



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