Volcano in Iceland effect the EBTA?

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I just noticed a news bulletin about the volcano in Iceland and how many flights have been cancelled in Europe and also delayed most trans-Atlantic flights for the day. I wonder if the EBTA cruisers will notice anything from this volcano?
 
Not so far. Though I think it is a bit rougher today than yesterday. More ship movement.
 
Its at 30,000 feet and mainly invisible, and more UK, than Atlantic.

But if it dosnt stop errupting, then flights home may be an issue.

France has closed 24 airports now.
 
Does anyone anticipate how long this is going to last? My friend's are supposed to come home from Portugal on Sunday.
 

It usually takes a few days for flights to "catch up" and clear the back log. Don't think anything like this has happended before.

I keep expecting to look up to the sky and see some big black cloud and everything going dark - like something from a SciFi film. However, all i can see is blue skies, which is very rare in Scotland!
 
It usually takes a few days for flights to "catch up" and clear the back log. Don't think anything like this has happended before.

I keep expecting to look up to the sky and see some big black cloud and everything going dark - like something from a SciFi film. However, all i can see is blue skies, which is very rare in Scotland!

Really? You guys got blue skies for a change? :cool1:

Today after work it was typical cloudy and cold. I actually got my winter coat back out. :mad:

So now we have this volcanic ash cloud. Absolutely ANYTHING to keep the sun from us!!
 
Does anyone anticipate how long this is going to last? My friend's are supposed to come home from Portugal on Sunday.

Next updates for planes is 8pm tonight, but nothing before 7am Friday but not looking good, its still going and the cloud is coming our way.

As it is not visible, our planes cannot fly as they do not know where it is.
 
Volcanic ash isn't good for plane engines, and that's why flights are being cancelled. I flew home from Alaska in August 2008, and got out of Anchorage just a few hours before a volcanic eruption elsewhere in Alaska closed down all the airports. There were some problems again last spring with a volcano in Alaska that could've affected the flights to Anchorage. Fortunately - the volcano quieted down and people were able to continue with their plans.

Unless the volcano in Iceland continues to erupt, those on the EBTA should be ok to fly home next week, as should those flying to Barcelona for the first Med cruise.
 
Recent update...

UK to continue to have restrictions until at least 1300 (1pm) BST Friday.

The European air traffic control organisation has said flights could be disrupted for another 48 hours by ash spewing from a volcano in Iceland.

Eurocontrol spokesman Brian Flynn said a lack of wind in the area meant the ash cloud was "progressing very slowly eastwards" and remained "very dense".

Up to 5,000 flights could have been affected by the end of Thursday.

Planes have been grounded in the UK, Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland.

France is also preparing to close its main airports.

The UK closed its entire airspace to all but emergency flights because of the risk of the ash damaging planes' engines. The restrictions are not expected to be lifted before 0700 (0600 GMT) on Friday at the earliest.

'Foreseeable future'

Eurocontrol, which covers 38 nations across Europe, said the ash ejected by the volcano underneath the Eyjafjallajoekull glacier in Iceland would continue to move in a south-easterly direction.

Based on the guidelines of the International Civil Aviation Organisation, normal air traffic control services could not be provided to flights in airspaces affected by volcanic ash, requiring the temporary suspension of air traffic, it added.

Experts have warned that the tiny particles of rock, glass and sand contained in the ash cloud could be sufficient to jam aircraft engines.

Mr Flynn, Eurocontrol's assistant head of operations, said the extent of the disruption was "greater than we've ever seen before in the EU" and warned that the problem could persist for a further 48 hours.

The meteorological situation is such that the volcanic ash is progressing very slowly eastwards but there is not a lot of wind... so it is very slow and very dense," he told the Reuters news agency.

A spokesman for the UK's National Air Traffic Service (Nats) said its airspace restriction was the worst in living memory, and that it was "very unlikely that the situation over England will improve in the foreseeable future".

The restrictions silenced Heathrow airport, the world's second busiest, and stranded tens of thousands of passengers around the world.

Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium and the Netherlands all later shut down their airspace entirely, while there was also major disruption in Finland, France, Germany and Spain.

Tim Farish, who had been planning to fly from Oslo to London on business, told the BBC he had been told by the airline SAS to stay at home and not bother calling for updates.




Airspace closed:
UK
Republic of Ireland
Norway
Denmark
Sweden
Belgium
Netherlands
Partial or planned closures:
Finland (northern airspace closed till 1200 GMT Friday)
France (northern airports by 2100 GMT)
.
 
We live near Gatwick and we are also on the Heathrow flight path. It was very quite whilst we were playing in the garden this afternoon. We usually have a steady stream of aircraft overhead.
 
Recent update...

UK to continue to have restrictions until at least 1300 (1pm) BST Friday.

The European air traffic control organisation has said flights could be disrupted for another 48 hours by ash spewing from a volcano in Iceland.

Eurocontrol spokesman Brian Flynn said a lack of wind in the area meant the ash cloud was "progressing very slowly eastwards" and remained "very dense".

Up to 5,000 flights could have been affected by the end of Thursday.

Planes have been grounded in the UK, Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland.

France is also preparing to close its main airports.

The UK closed its entire airspace to all but emergency flights because of the risk of the ash damaging planes' engines. The restrictions are not expected to be lifted before 0700 (0600 GMT) on Friday at the earliest.

'Foreseeable future'

Eurocontrol, which covers 38 nations across Europe, said the ash ejected by the volcano underneath the Eyjafjallajoekull glacier in Iceland would continue to move in a south-easterly direction.

Based on the guidelines of the International Civil Aviation Organisation, normal air traffic control services could not be provided to flights in airspaces affected by volcanic ash, requiring the temporary suspension of air traffic, it added.

Experts have warned that the tiny particles of rock, glass and sand contained in the ash cloud could be sufficient to jam aircraft engines.

Mr Flynn, Eurocontrol's assistant head of operations, said the extent of the disruption was "greater than we've ever seen before in the EU" and warned that the problem could persist for a further 48 hours.

The meteorological situation is such that the volcanic ash is progressing very slowly eastwards but there is not a lot of wind... so it is very slow and very dense," he told the Reuters news agency.

A spokesman for the UK's National Air Traffic Service (Nats) said its airspace restriction was the worst in living memory, and that it was "very unlikely that the situation over England will improve in the foreseeable future".

The restrictions silenced Heathrow airport, the world's second busiest, and stranded tens of thousands of passengers around the world.

Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium and the Netherlands all later shut down their airspace entirely, while there was also major disruption in Finland, France, Germany and Spain.

Tim Farish, who had been planning to fly from Oslo to London on business, told the BBC he had been told by the airline SAS to stay at home and not bother calling for updates.




Airspace closed:
UK
Republic of Ireland
Norway
Denmark
Sweden
Belgium
Netherlands
Partial or planned closures:
Finland (northern airspace closed till 1200 GMT Friday)
France (northern airports by 2100 GMT)
.

Thanks for this update as its helpful.

We are on a flight from RDU to London on our way to Barcelona Tuesday night for the 4/24 Med cruise. I sure hope this clears up otherwise, not sure what options we'll have on how we get to Spain to get on this cruise.....certainly a situation like this wasn't something we could have anticipated.
 
It usually takes a few days for flights to "catch up" and clear the back log. Don't think anything like this has happended before.

I keep expecting to look up to the sky and see some big black cloud and everything going dark - like something from a SciFi film. However, all i can see is blue skies, which is very rare in Scotland!

Our local news was at the San Francisco airport and they are telling passangers the earliest to Ireland/ London leaving from San Francisco is Tuesday.
 
A flight to Canada has just taken off from Glasgow! Also a few flight being allowed from Prestwick and Belfast until 7pm tonight
Restrictions now in place until 01.00 tomorrow for most of England.
 
Gatwick are still saying:

Last updated: 08:30 Friday 16 April

The cloud of volcanic ash continues to cover much of the UK. Following a review of the latest Met Office information, NATS – the air traffic control service – has confirmed that air traffic restrictions will remain in place in airspace above England until 01.00 (UK time) on Saturday 17 April, at the earliest.

Passengers should not travel to Gatwick Airport, but should contact their airline for re-booking information.

NATS will review the situation at 13.30 today, and we will continue to update this site with the latest information available.

We are sorry for the disruption and inconvenience this will cause.

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All flights from Cardiff appear to be cancelled except weirdly:

TCX477K Sharm el-Sheikh 08:15 Delayed\Next Info 15:00
 
Thanks for this update as its helpful.

We are on a flight from RDU to London on our way to Barcelona Tuesday night for the 4/24 Med cruise. I sure hope this clears up otherwise, not sure what options we'll have on how we get to Spain to get on this cruise.....certainly a situation like this wasn't something we could have anticipated.

I hope you have trip insurance... Is there any way you can get a diff. flight - direct to Barcelona? They don't seem to be quite as affected...at least their airport is still OPEN....
 
They were saying on the news a lot of insurance companies may not be covering this as its a natural disaster! Gonna have to check mine out!
 
Insurance covers natural disasters, as that's what hurricanes are, but you have to read the policy. For some to pay, your airline has to cease operations for at least 24 hours. If you were planning on flying one day or more before the cruise, you would probably be covered. For people who arrive the day the ship sails (I think quite a few on the Med cruise are doing this) - you don't have 24 hours for the airport to be shut down.

Good luck to those flying to BCN next week for the first Med cruise.
 
Insurance covers natural disasters, as that's what hurricanes are, but you have to read the policy. For some to pay, your airline has to cease operations for at least 24 hours. If you were planning on flying one day or more before the cruise, you would probably be covered. For people who arrive the day the ship sails (I think quite a few on the Med cruise are doing this) - you don't have 24 hours for the airport to be shut down.

Good luck to those flying to BCN next week for the first Med cruise.

Ah right that explains it.
 
The whole thing is a nightmare. We have a travel company, part of which is a contract to move aircrews around the country.

The latest is there will be no flights until tomorrow 1pm, although that may be knocked on again... DH didn't come home last night and logistically and financially it is a nightmare.

Problem is, even when they do start again, the planes will all be in the wrong places, there will be huge delays due to just the number of planes having to get back up in the air (a large percentage of planes are in the air at any one time) and of course, all the crews will be in the wrong places too!

Logistically, it is going to take a couple of days after they start flying to get it all back on track.

Kate
 
Our local news was at the San Francisco airport and they are telling passangers the earliest to Ireland/ London leaving from San Francisco is Tuesday.



Wow...DD has has two friends from London staying with us in New York until Sunday when they are due to fly back to Heathrow...maybe they will get to stay with us a bit longer (which is a good thing)! But I do feel for all of you trying to get to Barcelona next week. Good luck.

MJ
 

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