VIP/Tiered Rewards to be released soon

[Dean]

...oh wait..maybe Concierge lounge privileges at VGC..actually..that might do it

Exactly. There is an incentive (or combo of them) where every single member would willing to add points, the only question then would be whether they could afford it.

 

[Scott H]

Subscribing to see what if anything happens.

Lately I have been less than impressed with DVC and their care of members.

 

[DVC Dude]

With all this speculation, I simply hope that I own just enough points to get me the best perks!

Fortunately, I am a member of the 1,000+ point club (just barley over the 1k threshold)

 

[dianeschlicht]

With all this speculation, I simply hope that I own just enough points to get me the best perks!

Fortunately, I am a member of the 1,000+ point club (just barley over the 1k threshold)

LOL! Well, I figure whatever number they choose, I'm going to be just below it! We were discussing this at home this morning. We own a total of 449 points (all purchased direct), and we figure any extra perk is going to be for 450 points or higher!

 

[JimMIA]

..what could they give me to make it worthwhile to send them an extra $2,500 up front and $100 a year to my MF?

Believe it or not, VERY few people will do that math. They might do the first part, but not the additional annual dues part.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Hmm.

We have 260 points, all purchased direct. There is almost NO chance of us buying more for a LONG time. Our son is 15. DH and I can manage on 260 points JUST FINE when DS goes to college and beyond.

TX has already been pointed out as a "no referral" state. We have referred a few friends, but I don't think any of them purchased. And it wouldn't have mattered, unless we would get some sort of bonus credit for it going forward.

The most recent add-on incentives were for adding 150+ points. That's 10 points less than our BUY IN! It would never occur to me to add on in an increment of 150. If we thought we needed THAT many more points we would buy resale. The incentive was 4 free nights in a studio. Valued at what? Maybe $450? Which would be offset by the closing costs we would have to pay. Hello? NOT beneficial!

 

[keishashadow]

I think you can assume that resale buyers prior to 21 March will be treated the same as retail. However, they do not have any requirement to do so.

I've always wondered re the % of owners who bought resale then added on thru DVC direct (i'm one of them) or vice-a-versa. Not sure if they have the ability track the lineage of points when they all get lumped into one UY contract?

A refillable mug certainly doesn't grab my attention. When staying DVC it's so nice to have a stocked refrigerator vs repeated treks to a distant foodcourt with a tiny mug.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I also figure that since we just sold some points that the threshhold will be just above what we now own!

 

[Maistre Gracey]

The possibility of enhanced benefits has already affected our decisions.
We were considering unloading some points (too many for only two people), but we are waiting to see if the benefits make it worth keeping them. I'm also waiting to see what the levels are, as we may sell some but keep enough to stay above the threshold.

MG

 

[dbs1228]

We had 445 points direct and 160 resale last year - sold 160 direct points and adding on before 3/20 130 resale. I sure hope whatever the perk or incentive is that resales are grandfathered in! I would love to add on BLT but cannot justify 130.00 - 140.00 pp. We too are going to see what happens. Interesting

 

[Dean]

With all this speculation, I simply hope that I own just enough points to get me the best perks!

Fortunately, I am a member of the 1,000+ point club (just barley over the 1k threshold)

You're assuming that current members will qualify without additional outlays and while it's likely, there's a real possibility that they will not by current points alone.

I've always wondered re the % of owners who bought resale then added on thru DVC direct (i'm one of them) or vice-a-versa. Not sure if they have the ability track the lineage of points when they all get lumped into one UY contract?

They have the ability, have for some time as I understand it. Ultimately each contract is coded independently, they are never completely combined.

I still think too many are looking at this more like a rewards program where anyone can take it or leave it. That may end up where it is but it may not. A true timeshare tiered program can be very valuable to the insiders and very negative in comparison to those on the outside looking in. One major aspect is that of dollars as I hinted earlier. Say they instituted a fee to bank, borrow, transfer, cancel, multiple reservations, etc and then waived those fees and others (exchange fees) for the insiders. Perhaps they passed on the RCI membership fee to DVC members or even blocked access to RCI/BVTC for those not part of the tiered program.

 

[claire_ont]

I am waiting to see what happens. I have been toying with another add-on in the next year, though also toying with picking up a Marriott resale. Very different options with different advantages and uses.

Depending what comes out in the tiered system, and what is required to meet the threshold, I may invest more in Disney (if the bonuses are worth it) and if it is too far out of reach. If it is too far out of reach, or benefits not worth it, I will just do a small add-on and get my Marriott add-on for everything else.

Claire

 

[DenLo]

What surprises me most about this entire thread is that we all have tiered loyalty programs through our credit cards, airlines, car rentals, hotel loyalty programs etc. And each and everyone of them are the "what have you done for us lately" type of programs. If you don't continue to use their program you lose your status. Everybody accepts those programs, but Disney shouldn't adopt such a program? I don't get it. I've never really been able to take advantage of these programs and don't expect to benefit from a Disney loyalty program.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

What surprises me most about this entire thread is that we all have tiered loyalty programs through our credit cards, airlines, car rentals, hotel loyalty programs etc. And each and everyone of them are the "what have you done for us lately" type of programs. If you don't continue to use their program you lose your status. Everybody accepts those programs, but Disney shouldn't adopt such a program? I don't get it. I've never really been able to take advantage of these programs and don't expect to benefit from a Disney loyalty program.

All my hotel awards never expire. It is not a "what have you done for me lately" type award program.
That said, the level of membership can fluctuate according to recent stays, but the accumulated rewards never expire.
Actually I think hotel programs, airlines, and car rentals are a bad comparison. With those items you "purchase the product" every time you use it. With DVC you purchase what you need for the future, and are not really expected to purchase more points every time you stay.

MG

 

[DenLo]

All my hotel awards never expire. It is not a "what have you done for me lately" type award program.
That said, the level of membership can fluctuate according to recent stays, but the accumulated rewards never expire.
Actually I think hotel programs, airlines, and car rentals are a bad comparison. With those items you "purchase the product" every time you use it. With DVC you purchase what you need for the future, and are not really expected to purchase more points every time you stay.

MG

I guess I just don't belong to the same hotel loyalty programs. But my level of entitlement still is based on the number of hotel stays I had in the last year. My points might be there but the extra perks aren't.

But my question is should you expect to get extra loyalty credit for something you purchased 10, 15, or 20 years ago?

 

[Maistre Gracey]

But should you expect to get extra loyalty credit for something you purchased 10, 15, or 20 years ago?

It would seem odd to exclude past purchasers. I mean, why should someone be "punished" because they purchased early and helped DVC become what it is today?
I admit it is a possibility, but it just doesn't make sense to me.

MG

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I guess I just don't belong to the same hotel loyalty programs. But my level of entitlement still is based on the number of hotel stays I had in the last year. My points might be there but the extra perks aren't.

As I said, levels of membership can change, but accumulated rewards do not expire.

MG

 

[keishashadow]

They have the ability, have for some time as I understand it. Ultimately each contract is coded independently, they are never completely combined.

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thank you.

I just hope they'd be consistent across the board in awarding any percs, following whatever guidelines they state since Disney-proper is well-known for 'calling back/pixie dust' strategy for obtaining gimmies.

 

[disneynutz]

My opinion on those that bought DVC assuming that one timeshare system was different than the other top ones is that they assumed too much.

It's pretty easy to assume that Disney is different when the DVD Sales Team works their magic on you. Your Guide telling you several times that Disney is different may also make you feel that way.

I know, I know, don't believe a salesman, but we have been brought up with Disney being different, a place that is safe for your family, a company that you can trust, a utopia in the middle of a sea of corruption, crime, layoffs, foreclosures, and mistrust.

Bill

 

[Dean]

It's pretty easy to assume that Disney is different when the DVD Sales Team works their magic on you. Your Guide telling you several times that Disney is different may also make you feel that way.

I know, I know, don't believe a salesman, but we have been brought up with Disney being different, a place that is safe for your family, a company that you can trust, a utopia in the middle of a sea of corruption, crime, layoffs, foreclosures, and mistrust.

Bill

still assumptions, mostly incorrect ones, in my opinion. One thing that has been different about DVC though I doubt it will continue to be so, is that the sales staff doesn't do that much to add to this assumption. Most people are making it on their own, unlike with many other timeshare sales presentations where it can get pretty deep. My view is that DVC isn't substantially different than the other top timeshares (Hilton, Marriott, Hyatt, etc) but they all have their individual nuances.