Villians Sinister Soirée

[cakebaker]

Here's the issue. You're jumping in here to argue with many of us who have been attending (and loving) these parties for at least 10 years. Year after year, we see the reductions and there is absolutely no doubt about diminished value. We've seen numerous cuts over the years: fewer characters, fewer M&G interactions, reduction in fireworks, less (and cheaper) candy. Do you recall a time when you could have a commemorative party family photo, all included with admission?

If you want to create a list of changes, go right ahead. I only wish you could create a more exhaustive one detailing all of the reductions over the years. I have a feeling it would change your tune.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

We have tried to meet villians after the Mix and Mingle and unless you are very pushy you may as well forget it. The extra party gives those of us who are not quite so pushy a chance to meet them. Also my daughter saw the princes last year and they did not have long lines, my guess is not all that many people are going to miss them.

Last year, we did two Mix and Mingles and met every Villain except Hook (because we didn't care as he had met him a week earlier on a Disney Cruise)

 

[aaarcher86]

We have tried to meet villians after the Mix and Mingle and unless you are very pushy you may as well forget it. The extra party gives those of us who are not quite so pushy a chance to meet them. Also my daughter saw the princes last year and they did not have long lines, my guess is not all that many people are going to miss them.

I'm not afraid to throw some 'bows, but that's definitely why we bought two days of tickets.... To,avoid the scramble!

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I thought he was replaced by Lotso?

Lotso and Buzz are both offering meets in Tomorrowland

 

[aaarcher86]

Governor Ratcliffe? I haven't heard he was there (this would be great if he was!)

I was just looking at pictures from the 'top 5 things to do at MNSSHP' posted in another thread and saw him. But I don't see him on Kenny's map.

 

[aaarcher86]

Lotso and Buzz are both offering meets in Tomorrowland

Sweet. I have no idea where I thought I read the Toy Story stuff lol.

 

[jon18uk]

I thought he was replaced by Lotso?

Lotso and Buzz are both meeting seperately in Tommorrowland.

Woody and Jessie are only available diring the regular park hours not MNSSHP.

According to Kenny anyway http://kennythepirate.com/2012/09/13/mickeys-not-so-scary-halloween-party-characters/

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I was just looking at pictures from the 'top 5 things to do at MNSSHP' posted in another thread and saw him. But I don't see him on Kenny's map.

The only characters at last nights Club Villain was Cruella de Vil, Dr Facilier, Frollo and the Tremaine Family

 

[aaarcher86]

The only characters at last nights Club Villain was Cruella de Vil, Dr Facilier, Frollo and the Tremaine Family

I can't link it from my iPad, but there's a link to the article in the first MNSSHP thread with some pics of Club Villain and the governor walking around.

 

[kaylasmom07]

The only characters at last nights Club Villain was Cruella de Vil, Dr Facilier, Frollo and the Tremaine Family

I can't link it from my iPad, but there's a link to the article in the first MNSSHP thread with some pics of Club Villain and the governor walking around.

http://blog.wdwinfo.com/2014/09/02/top-5-must-dos-at-mickeys-not-so-scary-halloween-party/

He's there.

 

[patrickpiteo]

Here's the issue. You're jumping in here to argue with many of us who have been attending (and loving) these parties for at least 10 years. Year after year, we see the reductions and there is absolutely no doubt about diminished value. We've seen numerous cuts over the years: fewer characters, fewer M&G interactions, reduction in fireworks, less (and cheaper) candy. Do you recall a time when you could have a commemorative party family photo, all included with admission? If you want to create a list of changes, go right ahead. I only wish you could create a more exhaustive one detailing all of the reductions over the years. I have a feeling it would change your tune.

I think PP. is just looking to see why people are so up in arms and exactly irks them ..

As for me a DVC member for 20 years I have seen a lot of change some bad some good.. But at the end of the day it's your choice to do a Disney vacation and give them your $...

 

[aaarcher86]

http://blog.wdwinfo.com/2014/09/02/top-5-must-dos-at-mickeys-not-so-scary-halloween-party/ He's there.

Thank you kind soul!

 

[patrickpiteo]

We have tried to meet villians after the Mix and Mingle and unless you are very pushy you may as well forget it. The extra party gives those of us who are not quite so pushy a chance to meet them. Also my daughter saw the princes last year and they did not have long lines, my guess is not all that many people are going to miss them.

I saw mix and maul last year LOL it was so crowded

 

[aaarcher86]

I saw mix and maul last year LOL it was so crowded

That's actually hilarious!

 

[FINFAN]

I was just looking at pictures from the 'top 5 things to do at MNSSHP' posted in another thread and saw him. But I don't see him on Kenny's map.

Governor Radcliff was at the Monsters Inc dance party in Tomorrowland with the Toy Story characters, at least that's where he was last night about 11!

 

[nfggirl5454]

VM&M was chaotic, no doubt, but at least there was a chance--and a good one if you did a little research.

I so agree with this. Last year was my first party, and I read many reports on the disboards, as well as the ones from Kenny the Pirate and easywdw's sites. I'm not good with roaming characters, I'm not pushy enough at all, but I knew Maleficent would meet on the left side of the stage and I met her with no problem at all. The line to meet her wasn't chaotic from my point of view. And after meeting her, meeting both Hook and Frollo was easy - we waited a few families for Hook, and Frollo was a walk-up. And this was a sold-out party.

 

[lovethattink]

Governor Radcliff was at the Monsters Inc dance party in Tomorrowland with the Toy Story characters, at least that's where he was last night about 11!

Wow. He got around. We saw him at Club Villain.

 

[JimmyV]

The whole soirée thing just really feels kind of underhanded to me personally. But, we've decided to keep both days of party tickets. With the timeline, the soirée almost completely obliterates any chance of just enjoying the party itself, so we will use those one day for that.

This is a great point. They make you pay the $70 for the basic MNSSHP admission, and another $99 for the VSS, but the people who go to the VSS won't really receive much value from their base ticket. After one congregates in the meeting area, watches the fireworks from a sub-par location, moves into the Soiree, enjoys that, and makes their way out, there isn't really much time left to walk around the park, enjoy the decorations, meet characters, ride rides, etc. To get the full MNSSHP experience, one would have to buy a second ticket for a different night. $70+$99+$70 per person.

Then he complains that he spent 4 hours on this event out of a 5 hour party. I don't understand that part.

See above. While the time in the Castle might only be an hour or so, the total time devoted to this event sucks most of the time out of the main event, for which you have paid $70. I think that is what he was trying to convey, and the reason why aaarcher86 has bought a second night's admission for her family.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

I think I included everyone? Here is a list for what has changed from 2013 and 2014. Let me know if I missed anyone?

Same Characters on offer from 2013

7 Dwarves
Captain Jack Sparrow
Aladdin, Abu, Jasmine and Genie
Jafar (moved from Main St to Adventureland)
Tarzan, Jane and Terk
Winnie The Pooh, Tigger, Eeyore and Piglet
Alice in Wonderland and The Mad Hatter
Mickey (wearing Halloween outfit. During later parties in 2013, he would appear in regular day outfit)
Boo, Needleman, George Sanderson and Sulley (Dance Party in Tomorrowland)
Lotso (moved from Main St to Tomorrowland)
Buzz Lightyear
Donald and Daisy
Minnie Mouse
Jack Skellington and Sally
Goofy

Following Characters appear in identical outfits as during the day during the party

Ariel
Gaston
Merida
Tiana & Naveen
Tinker Bell (previously met with a Fairy Friend which has been removed)


Changes/Additions of Characters from 2013

Queen of Hearts (meeting with Alice and Hatter. Previously only at Mix and Mingle)
Aurora and Snow White in Fantasyland (previously met in PFH with their Princes)
Frollo (only appears at Club Villain or Soiree. Previously at Mix and Mingle)
The Tremaines (only appears at Club Villain or Soiree. Previously met on Main St)
Dr. Facilier (only appears at Club Villain or Soiree. Previously at Mix and Mingle)
Captain Hook (only appears at Soiree. Previously at Mix and Mingle)
Cruella (only appears at Club Villain or Soiree. Previously at Mix and Mingle)


Removal of Characters from 2013

Flynn Ryder
Prince Charming
Snow Whites Prince
Prince Phillip
Maleficent (excluding Soiree)
Queen Grimhilde/Snow Whites Queen (excluding Soiree)
Woody, Jessie and Bullseye
Tinkerbells Fairy Friend (they have been removed entirely)

New Characters in 2014

Anna and Elsa (meetable during the day)
Queen Grimhilde in Hag Form
Governor Ratcliffe (appeared at Club Villain 9/1)

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Here's the issue. You're jumping in here to argue with many of us who have been attending (and loving) these parties for at least 10 years. Year after year, we see the reductions and there is absolutely no doubt about diminished value. We've seen numerous cuts over the years: fewer characters, fewer M&G interactions, reduction in fireworks, less (and cheaper) candy. Do you recall a time when you could have a commemorative party family photo, all included with admission? If you want to create a list of changes, go right ahead. I only wish you could create a more exhaustive one detailing all of the reductions over the years. I have a feeling it would change your tune.

I'm not arguing with anyone. I've been attending these parties since 2006. I think I can weigh in with my thoughts and put a list together.

There are threads filled with 10yrs of grievances. My goal was a list of changes since last year -- a very common question. No harm in that.