Villains sinister soiree 2015?

What did the drink taste like and it's so funny the apple was the worse cause j was dieing to try it!

Sorry. I'm not sure if you were asking a specific person, but I thought it was kind of like a foamy apple lemonade concoction. Not bad, but not spectacular. I would agree the apple was the worst. I went to cut into mine, and it actually rolled off my plate onto the floor. I tried my mom's, and when the cm asked if I would like another to replace my runaway I said no thank you. I really enjoyed the praline thing though. That was my favorite.
 
OMG, I didn't mean cost literally as in the dollar amount of the admission price. Did you not see my parenthesis? I was referring to the COST to Disney--all the guest complaints from non-attendees.

Other then the DIS vets here I didn't here one person complain at the two parties that we were at.. I betting more then the majority there had no idea and still had a great time..
 

Sorry. I'm not sure if you were asking a specific person, but I thought it was kind of like a foamy apple lemonade concoction. Not bad, but not spectacular. I would agree the apple was the worst. I went to cut into mine, and it actually rolled off my plate onto the floor. I tried my mom's, and when the cm asked if I would like another to replace my runaway I said no thank you. I really enjoyed the praline thing though. That was my favorite.

Thanks for the reply! It truly was a poison apple!
 
Even if everyone who attended loved it and got their money's worth, we have no way of knowing how many people complained about having the characters taken out of the regular party to do that.

I really thought it would be back this year. If it isn't, I would have to guess complaints were high.

I think the soiree was very popular for those who actually had the good fortune to book it. I also think that it resulted in many complaints from literally thousands of other guests who were shut out of it. And I think THAT's the reason why something similar wasn't extended at MVMCP and why it seems to have been discontinued this year. The "cost" (i.e., complaints from those who didn't attend) outweighed the "benefit" (i.e., the admission price for the few who did attend).

The Soiree was obviously popular. People blindly threw money at it before they ever knew what it was or entailed, or who would even be there. That said, @patrickpiteo must have turned a blind eye to city hall during his 2 parties or he went to parties towards the end of October where it was well known by that time what to expect at the party. As I said, I was at the Sept. 9 party. The line for refunds started early in the night and stayed long all night, well after the party had ended. Not everyone uses these messages boards and such and that would leave them unknowing of the changes/additions to the party. I still remember the message boards from the people that were edgy about what was happening because they were heading on vacation for late Sept. parties and such and they wanted to know how the changes effected things.

Videos from past BTY parades does NOT have the villains as the last float in the parade. This year they were. There were other subtractions as well (can't think of them off the top of my head right now), but the parade was shorter. The fact that Disney was unable to compensate for pulling villains (cause it's Halloween and that's who you pay to see at these things) by at least putting other ones in their places, well, they pulled a bait and switch on customers and the customers weren't stupid. They called them out on it right away.

Also, don't think that everyone WANTED to go to the Soiree. I didn't. I wasn't wasting what little time (4-12 is 8 hours, but with the flow of the party it goes quick) there was, to go to a 45 minute dessert party and pay $99/head to do it when the characters who were in it, were advertised to be OUTSIDE and there be no Soiree at all. That's a bait and switch.

As for MVMCP, I think there are those of us in agreement that yes, Disney learned quickly. There were people lining up online and probably via phone to throw whatever insane amounts of money Disney wanted at them for a Frozen Soiree, but Disney doesn't have a solution for pulling Anna & Elsa at this time. Villains you can replace with other villains, the "hot ticket characters" Anna and Elsa, they don't have anyone that comes close to a fair replacement right now, so there would've been mass chaos and we'd still have lines at City Hall from those parties.

Disney needs to come back from all the $$$ to see that the customer experience is where all the $$$ comes from. If the customer has a good experience, they'll pay more, but if it's a bad one, the customer will pay less and in Disney's case, demand refunds, which were given. You can say the Soiree made up for it all you want, but again, as pointed out... There was not one at the MVMCP and it's been discontinued this year. The complaints outweighed the $$$ and the people with deeper pockets who were able to afford and get into, the soiree.
 
The Soiree was obviously popular. People blindly threw money at it before they ever knew what it was or entailed, or who would even be there. That said, @patrickpiteo must have turned a blind eye to city hall during his 2 parties or he went to parties towards the end of October where it was well known by that time what to expect at the party. As I said, I was at the Sept. 9 party. The line for refunds started early in the night and stayed long all night, well after the party had ended. Not everyone uses these messages boards and such and that would leave them unknowing of the changes/additions to the party. I still remember the message boards from the people that were edgy about what was happening because they were heading on vacation for late Sept. parties and such and they wanted to know how the changes effected things.

Videos from past BTY parades does NOT have the villains as the last float in the parade. This year they were. There were other subtractions as well (can't think of them off the top of my head right now), but the parade was shorter. The fact that Disney was unable to compensate for pulling villains (cause it's Halloween and that's who you pay to see at these things) by at least putting other ones in their places, well, they pulled a bait and switch on customers and the customers weren't stupid. They called them out on it right away.

Also, don't think that everyone WANTED to go to the Soiree. I didn't. I wasn't wasting what little time (4-12 is 8 hours, but with the flow of the party it goes quick) there was, to go to a 45 minute dessert party and pay $99/head to do it when the characters who were in it, were advertised to be OUTSIDE and there be no Soiree at all. That's a bait and switch.

As for MVMCP, I think there are those of us in agreement that yes, Disney learned quickly. There were people lining up online and probably via phone to throw whatever insane amounts of money Disney wanted at them for a Frozen Soiree, but Disney doesn't have a solution for pulling Anna & Elsa at this time. Villains you can replace with other villains, the "hot ticket characters" Anna and Elsa, they don't have anyone that comes close to a fair replacement right now, so there would've been mass chaos and we'd still have lines at City Hall from those parties.

Disney needs to come back from all the $$$ to see that the customer experience is where all the $$$ comes from. If the customer has a good experience, they'll pay more, but if it's a bad one, the customer will pay less and in Disney's case, demand refunds, which were given. You can say the Soiree made up for it all you want, but again, as pointed out... There was not one at the MVMCP and it's been discontinued this year. The complaints outweighed the $$$ and the people with deeper pockets who were able to afford and get into, the soiree.


People blindly threw money at it before they ever knew what it was or entailed, or who would even be there. That said, @patrickpiteo must have turned a blind eye to city hall during his 2 parties or he went to parties towards the end of October where it was well known by that time what to expect at the party. As I said, I was at the Sept. 9 party.


Nope not true.. I did not completely throw $ at not knowing what the party entailed or who was going to be there. I could have cancelled after the first reports came (pictures, and posts) in as I went to the one the end of September. And I saw no one at the city hall doors requesting their $ back. I believe that was the first parties..
 
People blindly threw money at it before they ever knew what it was or entailed, or who would even be there. That said, @patrickpiteo must have turned a blind eye to city hall during his 2 parties or he went to parties towards the end of October where it was well known by that time what to expect at the party. As I said, I was at the Sept. 9 party.


Nope not true.. I did not completely throw $ at not knowing what the party entailed or who was going to be there. I could have cancelled after the first reports came (pictures, and posts) in as I went to the one the end of September. And I saw no one at the city hall doors requesting their $ back. I believe that was the first parties..

Please expand to see what I bolded of the quote:

Now in Patrick's defense there were many threads here about the soiree' last year. The main one was :
http://www.disboards.com/threads/sinister-soiree-questions.3321900/

people were reporting in posting pictures, discussing pros & cons of attending or not. Obviously the soiree may have thrown a curveball to people that may not have anything to do with any online community, but people here had the opportunity to be well informed prior to making decisions. I was supposed to go, but had to cancel. FWIW I would absolutely do it if it was offered again based on the reports on the thread I linked. Choices, we all make them when it comes to our money.
 
I"m confidant something will happen this year. We were at (eventually) Villain's Night in 2013 and the time we are going this November also includes a friday the 13th (not planned lol). If anything, the faeries will torment us with another all day party on friday the 13th :)
 
I've never been to a party at all and honestly just hoping to have a scary good evening! lol
it can be quite fun to just people watch at a party if you don't find anything else to amuse you, some of the costumes are amazing. My first year I saw a couple dressed up as the ghosts from the Haunted Mansion and you would have thought they came straight out of a professional cast.
 
it can be quite fun to just people watch at a party if you don't find anything else to amuse you, some of the costumes are amazing. My first year I saw a couple dressed up as the ghosts from the Haunted Mansion and you would have thought they came straight out of a professional cast.

so it is ok to dress up? I've been getting mixed answers. I'm making a costume and it does reflect what the disney version looks like, will i be allowed into the party with said costume? its nothing bad or anything, just looks similar to their own version.
 
so it is ok to dress up? I've been getting mixed answers. I'm making a costume and it does reflect what the disney version looks like, will i be allowed into the party with said costume? its nothing bad or anything, just looks similar to their own version.
Yep! Just no signing autographs and it needs to be clear to everyone that you are not a CM.
 
Yep! Just no signing autographs and it needs to be clear to everyone that you are not a CM.
THANK YOU!!!! seriously it was like everytime i got a yes someone said no LOLi understand that regular days have more rules but this is halloween!!
 
I wouldn't go as far to call it a bait and switch, if only because of the 'subject to change' jargon. I think a lot of people felt that way because of the previous offerings and assuming it would be the same.

Wasn't the "announcement" of the villains at FTH just a website post that was removed almost immediately?

I would adore the main villains to come back into the park for the party and some special villains to do the soirée - Hades, Meg, etc. Or even just double it up since they won't cross paths.
 
I wouldn't go as far to call it a bait and switch, if only because of the 'subject to change' jargon. I think a lot of people felt that way because of the previous offerings and assuming it would be the same.

Wasn't the "announcement" of the villains at FTH just a website post that was removed almost immediately?

I would adore the main villains to come back into the park for the party and some special villains to do the soirée - Hades, Meg, etc. Or even just double it up since they won't cross paths.
The announcement was in a Disney Parks Blog post that was there for awhile. Then when they announced the soirée, they edited the original blog post and removed comments on that post regarding those characters to make it appear that they never said it. Super shady behavior, IMHO. Had they just made a new announcement with an apology or even left the old info in the original post and added an update to it, I don't think people would have felt duped, but to pretend it was never said was just wrong. Lol
 
Yeah, it could have been handled better.

I don't think it leads to a bait and switch though.
I don't think it was done purposefully, but to make the announcement that "for the first time ever the villains will meet with their respective princess", and then switching those villains to an expensive, severely limited capacity event after selling thousands of tickets qualifies as a bait and switch in my eyes, even if it was done without malice. I wasn't interested either way, but a lot of people were not happy about it. Lol

ETA: they could have at least given the princes back. That would have resulted in less outrage, I think. Lol
 
How exactly?? The meet after the villains show thing? How you know that weren't going to do away with that anyway.
didn't they make maleficent and the evil queen exclusive to the soiree guests only, *after* publicly announcing on the disney parks blog that those characters specifically would meet with their respective princesses during the party? (A post which was edited to remove that anniucement once the soiree was announced)

I remember taht being a big deal last year because the soiree wasn't announced until like a week before the first party, and people were so excited to meet Maleficent after her movie that summer

Eta: I should read the whole thread, lol
 


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