Villains sinister soiree 2015?

That's the problem. The soiree last year did take away from the party. The mix and mingle change (where they took away the mingle) allowed for Dr. Facilier to be taken to the Soiree (I can't remember if there were more), sure, he was also at the dance party in Frontierland later, but there's no photo-ops/M&G at the dance party.

You're right though that no one is forced, but Disney dropped the ball with advertising what they were doing. Had people been aware of the changes early enough, it could have swayed their decision about attending the party and such, instead of getting the surprises they did (like I said, I was at the 2nd party, so I was looking rather intently at reports from the 1st party). I also made sure that when questions came up after I got back that I supplied answers to help future guests for 2014.
I agree last minute they should have done it sooner.. But they refunded anyone who felt they wanted their $ back.
Hey we all know disney is in the $$ making business and that will never change.
 
I agree last minute they should have done it sooner.. But they refunded anyone who felt they wanted their $ back.
Hey we all know disney is in the $$ making business and that will never change.

Oh, I know they refunded people. My girlfriend never got her allergen free candy at city hall because the line was so long for refunds, and that was at midnight! Yes, Disney is in the making $$ business, but they had 1 super poor event (Villains Unleashed) and then the mixed bag of the MNSSHP. I'd have to imagine that after the first few parties and our reports from them that people going later in the season were ready and knew these things were confirmed, so Disney didn't lose as much later as it did at the start.
 
How exactly?? The meet after the villains show thing? How you know that weren't going to do away with that anyway.

Yes, they took away meets and made them exclusive to those who paid even more. That's how, exactly. I won't play in hypotheticals. You said "the regular party is still the same", and it is clearly not.
 

Yes, they took away meets and made them exclusive to those who paid even more. That's how, exactly. I won't play in hypotheticals. You said "the regular party is still the same", and it is clearly not.

The parade is shorter too.
 
I was super pissed about the removal of the villains, but I also wholeheartedly loved the soirée and reserved viewing area.

I'd love for them to keep,the soirée and put the villains back into the main rotation. I thought it was in really poor taste to remove something specific to the party and charge more for it.

The soirée seemed to get rave reviews though, so it'd surprise me if they completely took it out. Particularly with the high price point.
 
I was super pissed about the removal of the villains, but I also wholeheartedly loved the soirée and reserved viewing area.

I'd love for them to keep,the soirée and put the villains back into the main rotation. I thought it was in really poor taste to remove something specific to the party and charge more for it.

The soirée seemed to get rave reviews though, so it'd surprise me if they completely took it out. Particularly with the high price point.

I actually have seen the soirée get very mixed to okish reviews especially what you got for the money
 
Yes, they took away meets and made them exclusive to those who paid even more. That's how, exactly. I won't play in hypotheticals. You said "the regular party is still the same", and it is clearly not.

All the meets or specific ones? Is that it? I'm not trying to be snarky but what else?
 
Really I've been to 10 party's and the parde was the same not shorter ...

Did you attend the party 10x in the same year, lol? Seriously, youtube the BTY parade the past several years and you will see the differences...
 
All the meets or specific ones? Is that it? I'm not trying to be snarky but what else?
They initially announced that specific villains would be available at Fairytale Hall, thus removing the princes. Then they sold thousands of tickets, pulled those villains, and did not give the princes back. They also took away the "mingle" after the castle show, and reduced the showing from 4 to 3.
 
They initially announced that specific villains would be available at Fairytale Hall, thus removing the princes. Then they sold thousands of tickets, pulled those villains, and did not give the princes back. They also took away the "mingle" after the castle show, and reduced the showing from 4 to 3.

AND instead of at least having the princesses meet with their princes like in the past, it was just princesses meeting alone. The exact same experience you could get during any park day.
 
Did you attend the party 10x in the same year, lol? Seriously, youtube the BTY parade the past several years and you will see the differences...

Yea I tapped every one and compared them.. All experts... so now that cut the parde short because of the villains sorrie?
 
They initially announced that specific villains would be available at Fairytale Hall, thus removing the princes. Then they sold thousands of tickets, pulled those villains, and did not give the princes back. They also took away the "mingle" after the castle show, and reduced the showing from 4 to 3.
Yes but seems the mingle ain't coming back no matter if they bring back the villains sorrie or not.
 
There were no princes at the sorrie..

Sorry, if I wasn't clear...Disney originally announced that villains would be meeting with princesses. THEN they said "Nope, villains will only meet at the soiree." But by then it was too late to cast the princes, so instead the princesses met alone. A decision that they made to have the villains only at the soiree affected a traditional MNSSHP offering. That was my point.
 
It also was extremely hard to even get a ticket to the soiree, I got luckily and a cm found a table for me as it was starting.
 
Keeping all the villains trapped to the event where it was limited seating was a very poorly thought out move by Disney. I have no problem if you want to charge for an event - but don't make the draw of halloween meeting the characters so limited that it can be sold out instantly.
 


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