VGC has skyrocketed! 335 per point

[elenex]

I've seen analysis in the past saying VGC is still worth it over rack rate at $400pp.

I did some math a few weeks ago and at 320pp savings was still over 50% off rack, so that sounds like it's true.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

This really has me thinking about selling my 50 pointer. 340pp for a small contract and we haven't hit the ceiling?

You got to weigh the pros and cons of selling it. Is the money gained worth not owning VGC anymore? I sometimes think about selling, but quickly realize I'd be more unhappy in losing my contracts than to gain $30k in capital gains. Perhaps I'm crazy. But I feel we have so many more years of vacations at VGC left in us. I can't imagine at the moment parting with it.

 

[elenex]

You got to weigh the pros and cons of selling it. Is the money gained worth not owning VGC anymore? I sometimes think about selling, but quickly realize I'd be more unhappy in losing my contracts than to gain $30k in capital gains. Perhaps I'm crazy. But I feel we have so many more years of vacations at VGC left in us. I can't imagine at the moment parting with it.

I just bought another 110pt contract at 245pp, so I'd still be an owner. If it were my only contract, I wouldn't even consider as I love owning there. Even though our stay there last week sent us home with COVID.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I just bought another 110pt contract at 245pp, so I'd still be an owner. If it were my only contract, I wouldn't even consider as I love owning there. Even though our stay there last week sent us home with COVID.

I feel you. We bought 320 points (2 contracts) in early 2021 at $220pp. I sometimes think I don't need both contracts. We can easily stay in studios and still be able to take our vacations. But boy do we love our VGC 1BRs. And we can't stomach shooting the dice at 7 months using our SAP. Just selling one contract would probably net us $15k after owning them for only 2 years. But I seriously think it would make us unhappy. I know that money bought us the contracts so money can sometimes buy happiness. But the act of losing it would have the opposite effect, even with a capital gain.

 

[longboard55]

We are local, and just do staycations mostly for pool time. We love it. But there is no way I would pay $800 per night for a cash room.

 

[NVDISFamily]

I've seen analysis in the past saying VGC is still worth it over rack rate at $400pp.

It is if you are comparing suites to 1BR and 2BR villas. The value is even better than the studio to regular room comparison.

 

[longboard55]

Yes price a retail 1 Bdrm in GC, in the range of $1500.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

It is if you are comparing suites to 1BR and 2BR villas. The value is even better than the studio to regular room comparison.

It most definitely is with the larger room categories. But the rack rates for 1 and 2 BRs through Disney aren't the same as the DVC villas we can book with points. They have no kitchens. It's apples and oranges IMO. Even still, it's nice seeing a typical 1BR rack rate price of $2000/night during our typical time in November and knowing that I'm only paying ~$500/night. That means I'm saving over $10k for a week stay every time! And that doesn't even include tax and parking. This is what I tell myself at least to justify my $70k in purchasing my contracts.

 

[ehh]

Yes price a retail 1 Bdrm in GC, in the range of $1500.

In slow parts of the fall, it's >$2000/night after tax for a cash 1BR Suite (which is arguably worse than a 1BR Villa).

Then there's Signature Suites, which are crazy money ($5k-$10k/night) but in a totally different class from VGC Villas.

VGC is definitely different from WDW/Aulani 1BRs, which are maybe 25-40% more per night than Studios.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

In slow parts of the fall, it's >$2000/night after tax for a cash 1BR Suite (which is arguably worse than a 1BR Villa).

Then there's Signature Suites, which are crazy money ($5k-$10k/night) but in a totally different class from VGC Villas.

VGC is definitely different from WDW/Aulani 1BRs, which are maybe 25-40% more per night than Studios.

Yeah, what's with those signature suites? I wonder who stays in those? And doesn't DLH have them too? Rack rates at both GCH and Aulani blows my mind sometimes. But I didn't realize the jump from studio to 1BR at GCH is that much more than Aulani. Perhaps it's a matter of inventory? Since there are so many more rooms at Aulani.

 

[longboard55]

I wonder what size room Dave Ramsey rents

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I wonder what size room Dave Ramsey rents

that is a great question. didn't you hear from the video? He's neck deep in CASH money baby! He probably lives it up in penthouse suites burning Benjamin's and pouring chrystals on the carpet!

 

[NVDISFamily]

In slow parts of the fall, it's >$2000/night after tax for a cash 1BR Suite (which is arguably worse than a 1BR Villa).

Then there's Signature Suites, which are crazy money ($5k-$10k/night) but in a totally different class from VGC Villas.

VGC is definitely different from WDW/Aulani 1BRs, which are maybe 25-40% more per night than Studios.

Yep, this is why I went a bit crazy and purchased a "few" points a VDH. The value over time given how crazy the suite prices are at Grand Cal are (and they sell out all the time) made it worth it to me.

Yes the super high end suites are better than anything in the DVC wing from a pure luxury perspective, but from a functional and also location perspective I have to say the them park view Grand Villa gives them a huge run for the money and function. Sleeping surfaces for 14 people, kitchen, 4 bathrooms. It's a crazy room... Having 9 people in there was no problem at all and when we had some guests and about 15 people for the day, it never felt crowed at all. Really looking forward to the remodel in 2024/2025.

 

[ClaraOswald]

We are local, and just do staycations mostly for pool time. We love it. But there is no way I would pay $800 per night for a cash room.

I don't know how anyone can stomach that price. We were able to make our first (and so far only) Grand Cali stay earlier this year but we had a friends/family discount which made a huge difference. Without that, we never would have stayed there.

Of course, that stay is what made us want to buy VGC instead of going back to staying on Harbor. So not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing....ha!

Yeah, what's with those signature suites? I wonder who stays in those? And doesn't DLH have them too? Rack rates at both GCH and Aulani blows my mind sometimes. But I didn't realize the jump from studio to 1BR at GCH is that much more than Aulani. Perhaps it's a matter of inventory? Since there are so many more rooms at Aulani.

I don't know who stays in them but I wish they would invite me along! They look so great. Especially the one that has a patio and outdoor fireplace!

 

[BlueIsis]

It's insane how much the prices for VGC has gone up throughout the years. It's too bad that the transient tax added to the VDH are pretty steep at around $2.70/point for this second DVC Disneyland property. That is probably a deal breaker for most people on a budget.

We could recoup our initial VGC purchase cost just selling one of our three 100 point VGC contracts now. My husband says, sell it, I on the other hand would like to keep it forever.

This is exactly the question I asked myself. We just closed on our VGC points today and I could immediately turn around and make 30k on them...but I really want to keep them forever!

 

[Yankee626]

Its amazing how high the rates are at the Grand and DH when there are great cheap options within walking distance to DL.

 

[thelionqueen]

Its amazing how high the rates are at the Grand and DH when there are great cheap options within walking distance to DL.

I love the DLH, not a fan of GCV just due to theming. We stay at Marriott suites which is about 1.5 miles away and shuttle in. Huge rooms & nice amenities for a better price than the “motels” closer to the park. No chance I’m buying GCV at current rates or VDH due to the TOT, parking and etc. (had been saving for VDH for 3 years and very disappointed once released). I’ll pay cash when I go and that’ll be that.

 

[DianaMB333]

I love the DLH, not a fan of GCV just due to theming. We stay at Marriott suites which is about 1.5 miles away and shuttle in. Huge rooms & nice amenities for a better price than the “motels” closer to the park. No chance I’m buying GCV at current rates or VDH due to the TOT, parking and etc. (had been saving for VDH for 3 years and very disappointed once released). I’ll pay cash when I go and that’ll be that.

Hi… may I ask pls which Marriott and how has been your experience with shuttle at night with crowds?
Thanks!

 

[thelionqueen]

It is the Marriott Suites off Chapman & Harbor. I'm not sure if it's allowed to post that or a link. We have had zero issues in all our trips with the shuttle. Just be aware it is an additional charge per person per day, which I didn't find unreasonable. It can get crowded at night, just like everything else, but nothing crazy imo. There is no chance at all, I'd pay for GCV at current resale prices (or direct for that matter) nor VDH.. I'll take Marriott suites everytime.

 

[lilsonicfan]

Someone posted in DVC Fan Facebook group that he was able to purchase points at VGC direct (for the $310pp) today - guide told him that they had some points to sell that DVD got back - probably through foreclosures.