Venting about complainers!!!!!

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I have seen so many people ....either New Englanders complaining about the lobster rolls....or the Chicagoans complaining about the pizza...or the NOLA's complaining about the beignets or jambalaya or the NY'ers complaining about the Italian food etc....ya gotta review with a bit of common sense! Of course the above stated item is better where you come from......IT SHOULD BE!!!! But so many people are coming to WDW and trying something different for the first time...and it might be their only time.....whether they are from Alabama or Argentina.....it might be their only time to try something that they really can't get in their hometown. Be more objective when you're being critical. It can't all be "Magical" but there's nothing positive in tearing it down!
 
Part of the fun, at WDW is having a look / try of something they claim is the same as it is at home, and having a laugh at how different it is. It's not necessarily that it's bad, we've had some FAB stuff, but, it's not always what it claims it is, authenticity wise. As I say, part of the fun.
 
I have seen so many people ....either New Englanders complaining about the lobster rolls....or the Chicagoans complaining about the pizza...or the NOLA's complaining about the beignets or jambalaya or the NY'ers complaining about the Italian food etc....ya gotta review with a bit of common sense! Of course the above stated item is better where you come from......IT SHOULD BE!!!! But so many people are coming to WDW and trying something different for the first time...and it might be their only time.....whether they are from Alabama or Argentina.....it might be their only time to try something that they really can't get in their hometown. Be more objective when you're being critical. It can't all be "Magical" but there's nothing positive in tearing it down!

I'm not going to follow your direction. I'm from New England, I know lobster. I know seafood. I understand that I get the best fish and chips on the planet down the street from me. The veal Milanese at my favorite restaurant is the best I've ever had. And their rib eye steak is better than Del Frisco in NYC. But if I am dining in. WDW restaurant that calls itself an Italian restaurant, or if I am eating in the UK, or if I buy the lobster roll at CHH, I'm going to give the food my honest review.

I refuse to "be objective" if your description of "objective" means I tell folks food is awesome if it's not. Most people understand that they are dining in theme parks, but they gave the right to know what they are purchasing.

Disney dining is expensive.everywhere in Disney, food is expensive. I think I'm intelligent enough to give an accurate review in terms of my own taste, without being clouded by the memories of the entrees I buy at home.

I seldom post negative reviews of restaurants, but I have no issues giving feedback if a poster asks. If would be a shame if they went into CHH and expected the lobster roll to be a succulent concoction of morsels of lobster dripping in butter and served in a hot dog roll. It's not. Is it good? I don't like it. But I bet if you like lobster salad (IMO that's what it is) it's okay.

I think that describing food and explaining why it was or was not good is helpful. Is it critical? Maybe... I'm still not over Le Cellier.
 
For me, I like to try different things on vacation, so in that respect, I wouldn't order a lobster roll (I live just north of Boston). I would be more likely to order conch fritters! So it doesn't make too much sense to me that people eat food at WDW that they can get down the street from their home - especially if the restaurant down the street is excellent! Why set yourself up for disappointment?

I will say, my favorite "complainers" are the people who order cupcakes and complain that there is too much frosting. You can see the cupcake big as life in the bakery case in most instances, with the big ol' mound of frosting right there!! I don't get it . . .
 

There will always be some degree of subjectivity in a review, based on the reviewer's personal likes/dislikes/preferences/frame of reference. It doesn't necessarily make them a complainer if they don't like something, it just means that whatever it was, they've had better.
 
I appreciate hearing other's opinions on WDW but I like to hear where they are coming from, like the above posters saying they are from the Northeast where you can get great seafood.

My problem with the complainers is that it isn't "I didn't like it because…" The complaints are usually "It was the worst ______ ever!" like there is no possibility that someone else could have a differing opinion.

The cupcake thing is ridiculous. You can see there is a pile of frosting on those cupcakes!

Although I didn't like Chef Mickey's :)
 
I have seen so many people ....either New Englanders complaining about the lobster rolls....or the Chicagoans complaining about the pizza...or the NOLA's complaining about the beignets or jambalaya or the NY'ers complaining about the Italian food etc....ya gotta review with a bit of common sense! Of course the above stated item is better where you come from......IT SHOULD BE!!!! But so many people are coming to WDW and trying something different for the first time...and it might be their only time.....whether they are from Alabama or Argentina.....it might be their only time to try something that they really can't get in their hometown. Be more objective when you're being critical. It can't all be "Magical" but there's nothing positive in tearing it down!

So you don't want people to be honest so they can spare the feelings of others to make sure they have a magical time trying new foods? I think everyone should decide for themselves what they like or don't, and be honest in their review whether that is positive or negative.
 
I am of the opposite opinion the food at WDW has gone so far downhill in recent years. Menus reduced, food quality reduced, people should be complaining otherwise it won't change.

We have gone from 1 TS most days most of which were signatures to only planning 2 dinners in. 14 night stay as the food no longer merits its prices
 
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As a native of NOLA, I feel it's a duty to point out that the "beignets" at Disneyland share similarities only in the name of the dessert. "MickeyDonuts" would be a better (accurate) description. I don't say it to "complain" about Disneyland, but say it so people are aware that when they go to the real New Orleans, they'll enjoy the actual dessert and not some appropriated (very inaccurate) representation. As an aside, I find the beignets at Port Orleans are a decent attempt, and would love to see some Disney-Tiana's Place theming around that part of the Port Orleans cafe. I mean if you're going to Disney-fy the dessert, go all the way… "you're almost there!"

Likewise, living in New England has taught me what New Englanders expect from a proper chowdah or lobstah roll. If a restaurant is going to reference the locale, then in my opinion respect the regional cuisine by following it to the best of the chef's ability. Otherwise, it smacks of appropriating the region's name for profit without respect to the regional culture.

I have a feeling that anytime I would call out inappropriately prepared regional cuisine would be "complaining." So, it's unfortunate that it would offend some, but it also offends me to find my cultural-regional cuisine falsely advertised. It's all the more important to speak up about cultural cuisine "false advertising" if the restaurant guest (by virtue of only eating at Disney) won't have an opportunity to experience the actual texture/look/taste of that region. I would rather know from hometown reviewers how the actual cuisine differs, so I can have an educated palate when I'm eating a sorta-kinda good attempt by Disney at (insert city name) (insert famous food dish).

Best wishes to the OP. Hope there's some understanding that a critical review is not equivalent to dismissiveness. :cutie:
 
People have very specific frames of reference. Nothing is going to change that. It's just as ridiculous for someone to read a review and assume they won't like something just because someone else didn't, as it would be for someone to give an dishonest opinion, because they understand that someone else might feel differently. It's usually pretty easy to scope reviews and figure out what is based on one person's biases, and what is consistent.

My husband drove me crazy before our last move, because he was the one who went to visit properties, while I stayed home with the kids. He refused to tell me which house he preferred, and just kept telling me which one he thought I would prefer. I would much rather hear someone's honest review of something, including the good and the bad than have them curb it with assumptions.

Also, I like it when people tell me how authentic certain things are. I didn't like the beignets at POFQ as much as I thought I would, and I would hate to go to New Orleans someday and choose not to try them, because of that experience.
 
I don't think people are complaining, just offering an opinion. If you are from an area that specializes in something whether its lobster rolls, pizza, Mexican food etc., then anything you find elsewhere will not measure up. Does not make it wrong, or complaining etc. It just......is.

I think people take pride in their regional cuisine and I love to hear about what food is considered "the best" in a certain area of the country. I used to work with a girl from MA and a guy from NY and I remember them arguing about the best chowder: classic New England cream based clam chowder vs. tomato based Manhattan. They both were so passionate about theirs being "real" chowder or the "right" chowder. It was all in fun and just a pride thing.

And if you are from Maine, you will never be okay with the CHH lobster roll. And that is okay. Someone from an area that is not known for seafood may find it great, but I still think the Mainer can poke fun at it! It's all good. I would not be upset or think someone is complaining if they say they are from TX and "you just can't get good bbq in FL." I would have to agree with them and just hope I could get to TX some day to try it myself!
 
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There are points on both sides.

One thing that I've noticed is that certain foods, Mexican, pizza, Italian, lobster rolls and a good number of others have regional variations and different levels of Americanization. So what makes a proper lobster roll for someone from Boston, might not be a New Yorker's idea of a lobster roll. Look at Italian, the vast majority of Italian immigrants to North America have been from Lazio to Sicily further south. So our frame of reference for Italian food is regionally southern. Give them Italian food from say Trieste/Lombardy/Istria(I know part of Croatia but food is more Italian) and people would not know what it is. Same is true of Mexico. Food from Sonora is a lot different from food from Oaxaca. So when someone is harsh towards one place because it doesn't fit 'their idea' of pizza or whatever can come across as close-minded or unaware that how Chicagoans make pizza is not how everyone makes pizza.

That being said, I don't let negative reviews impact unless it connects with my likes/dislikes. Unless its Tony's. And I won't touch that place with a ten foot pole.
 


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