vent about WDW bus passengers

[Aliceacc]

This thread is not about "special snowflakes." It's about giving your seat up to someone more in need. I'm just wondering if all of you feel the same about giving up a seat to an elderly person, or someone with an obvious handicap??? I don't get the resentment some ppl. seem to have towards children, but that is not what this thread is about, so that discussion can be for another time.

Ppl. aren't talking about an able adult giving up a seat for an 8/10 year old child. They're talking about giving up your seat for someone more in need, whether that be a parent holding a child, an elderly person, a pregnant woman, a small child that's unable to reach the bars/or a short adult unable to reach the bars. It really isn't going to hurt anyone to have a little courtesy.

I'm sorry... did you read the rest of my response?? It said that my kids know enough to extend common courtesy to others... that they're being brought up to realize that the world does NOT revolve around them. It said that my son sat something like 3 or 4 times our last trip; the rest of the time he voluntarily gave up his seat to others.

 

[bavaria]

I'm sorry... did you read the rest of my response?? It said that my kids know enough to extend common courtesy to others... that they're being brought up to realize that the world does NOT revolve around them. It said that my son sat something like 3 or 4 times our last trip; the rest of the time he voluntarily gave up his seat to others.

Hah!! you must be in the running with NHDisneylover for 'DISboard Bad Parent of the Year Award'

As I tell her, consider that quite the compliment. I see it as raising your children to be strong, self-sufficient, and considerate of others.

 

[HunnyJar]

being 14 myself, I get up anyway for my elders. I know that I can take a lot more than them and after a long day, they deserve to have a seat. You should always respect your elders and always give up your seat for them

I think that's awesome! My son (also 14) is the same way. He will offer his seat without hesitation as would both my husband and myself.

By the end of a long day at any of the parks everyone is tired. I have no problem giving up my seat to someone who looks like they need it. Would I give up my seat to someone who has children, sure. A lot of the kids cannot reach the handles, I can. Why would I want that kid to possibly take a tumble when I am more than capable of hanging on. Some of those buses can take turns pretty badly.. My husband had to hang on to me while we were standing on more than one occasion. I cannot imagine what that would be like for a kid.

I would never expect someone to offer a seat to me if I were holding my daughter, but you know it sure would be nice if someone did. And while I am currently pregnant (still very early) I would still be happy to give up my seat to someone else.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I was just trying to make the point that YOU (general you) are in control of your own vacation. If you can manage to be on your feet all day, riding some of the rides a WDW then surely you could handle standing on the bus, even with swerving. Is it uncomfortable, sure but if its something you can't handle then you are the one that needs to do something about it, nobody else. I could have worded it differently but my point is that you are in control of how you get to and from the parks and maybe the bus just isn't the right option if you are the type who expects people to give up their seat for you becaue you have a certain condition mentioned in any of these posts here.
All that being said, I would offer my seat to a pregnant woman, elderly person, disabled person or a parent carrying a small child. My children would do the same and in fact we did do this on our trip, the only time we sat was when we left early the night of MNSSHP and there were seats available. My problem is that there are people who expect you to do that, and there is a difference between them and people who are appreciative and thankful because they don't expect a seat just because........

Oh I totally agree with you that you cannot expect anyone to do anything for you. You have to be the one who decides the best way to vacation etc. I completely agree with you there. I was just saying that it is nice to extend some kindness to others. If someone offers me a seat I more than likely won't even take it (and I have been to WDW pregnant etc.) but it is still nice that they offered. I do not expect anything. I do think it is a sad state of affairs though when we can see someone struglling and not offer to help. That's really my point.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

Do you have a teen or young adult yet? I ask because my DD had decent balance at age 2. She could stand well on a bus and I could easily hold her and catch her if she did start to fall. Now at 13 she is a good two inches taller than me and growing upwards and in all sorts of other ways at a rapid pace. Her rapidly changing body has thrown her balance way out of whack (and can make her much more tired than normal) and her bigger size makews it impossible for me to hold onto her on the bus. She still stands on busses and trams (pretty much every day actually as we live in the land of great public transit), but hoenstly she probably needs the seat more than a toddler from a safety standpoint


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I think you missed what I was trying to say. Your child clearly needs to sit etc. for whatever reason. I am not arguing that. I was referring to a poster who basically said "too bad so sad" I am more tired than the 2 year old who was sitting in a stroller all day so I don't care if they cannot hold on well enough. That was the attitude if you will that I thought was rude. The whole me me me thing. Now I don't think anyone needs to give up their seat for my kids etc. nor do I expect it- but- being smug about it just irks me.

 

[southtexasmom]

exactly why we rent a vehicle or drive our own now

 

[luvmy3]

Oh I totally agree with you that you cannot expect anyone to do anything for you. You have to be the one who decides the best way to vacation etc. I completely agree with you there. I was just saying that it is nice to extend some kindness to others. If someone offers me a seat I more than likely won't even take it (and I have been to WDW pregnant etc.) but it is still nice that they offered. I do not expect anything. I do think it is a sad state of affairs though when we can see someone struglling and not offer to help. That's really my point.

ITA and I would offer my seat to anyone regardless if they "expected" it or not. Of course I still have a problem with that entitlement attitude, but that wouldn't stop me from doing the right thing for someone, even if they had it.

 

[surfergirl602]

Maybe Disney should just get rid of all their means of transportation this way there will be nothing for all you people to complain about. There, problem solved.

Where is that big red EASY button when you need it?

 

[Mouse House Mama]

ITA and I would offer my seat to anyone regardless if they "expected" it or not. Of course I still have a problem with that entitlement attitude, but that wouldn't stop me from doing the right thing for someone, even if they had it.

I too hate that entitlement attitude as well. I do what I think is the right thing as well but I do find it obnoxious when people expect it.

 

[Princess Sleepy]

Last time I was there I saw a women whose precious Coach bag obviously needed the seat more than anyone who was standing. She got lots of glares from people but never moved the bag. When I passed her getting of the bus I sort of mentioned to her that her bag must have been very tired and looked like it really needed the seat.

But did anyone say to her, "Excuse me, can you please move your bag so I can sit down?" She may have been rude and thoughtless, but would she really have refused to move it if she had been asked directly? Passive-aggressive game playing may feel satisfying and righteous, but is not very effective.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I don't think the majority of the ppl. posting here EXPECT to have someone give them a seat just because they're elderly/more in need ect., however I think it's absolutely the right thing to do, and yes it really does put a bad taste in my mouth when I hear about perfectly healthy ppl. say they don't have any problem sitting while someone more in need stands. That's just sad, but it does go to show a big problem with our society.

The ones who glare and/or make snide remarks are expecting someone to get up and give them a seat.

 

[Elisa84]

Plus side to standing! You can work on your leg and butt muscles! haha

 

[JUJU814]

Plus side to standing! You can work on your leg and butt muscles! haha

That's right!!! Engage the core muscles..great balance exercise...

 

[NMAmy]

I disagree. Standing on busses is common for public transportation the world over--including many places in the USA. If you are not happy with standard public transportation practices then do not use the public transportation at WDW.

I'm always surprised by the number of posters on these boards who find standing on a bus to be unusual. I take a city bus fairly often and it's very common for them to be standing room only. In fact, the kids that ride the city bus (elementary to high school aged) seem to prefer to stand toward the front of the bus.

At WDW, my family does tend to offer our seats to those who might need them more. But if anyone made a snide comment before I could get up, I'd let them continue to stand.

 

[DISNEYFOS]

I'm always surprised by the number of posters on these boards who find standing on a bus to be unusual. I take a city bus fairly often and it's very common for them to be standing room only. In fact, the kids that ride the city bus (elementary to high school aged) seem to prefer to stand toward the front of the bus.

At WDW, my family does tend to offer our seats to those who might need them more. But if anyone made a snide comment before I could get up, I'd let them continue to stand.

The children people are referring to are young children/babies. Elementary and older do not apply.

I think its hilarious..Most everyone is saying they will offer their seat..but yet we are arguing about it? I'm glad to see everyone gets common courtesy and are teaching their children the same. Children learn by example..they are watching you and how you treat others.

 

[frtchr]

I thought by 2010 we would have our own personal jet-packs. That would solve the issue.

 

[NHdisneylover]

On another thread someone All of that doesn't mean that we are hard and uncaring. I think that it means that we are hardy and strong. We have compassion and we give assistance but we don't demand it for ourselves.

I have never felt this was a hard or uncaring attitude. It only strikes me as very admirably self sufficeint.

I think you missed what I was trying to say. Your child clearly needs to sit etc. for whatever reason. I am not arguing that. I was referring to a poster who basically said "too bad so sad" I am more tired than the 2 year old who was sitting in a stroller all day so I don't care if they cannot hold on well enough. That was the attitude if you will that I thought was rude. The whole me me me thing. Now I don't think anyone needs to give up their seat for my kids etc. nor do I expect it- but- being smug about it just irks me.

Actually my child does not "need" to sit now (nor did she as a toddler). I was simply illustrating that teens are also likely to have balance issues because of a changing body. She rarely sits on the bus at WDW and if she does it is with her brother in her lap (and he is too big to be a lap kid, but we do not like to take up extra space) unless it is an off hours bus with plenty of room. In fact she stands on a tram and a train wearing a very heavy backpack most days. I am sorry I misread the attitude that you were responding to in the post. I just read it as someone thinking they had as much right to sit as anyone else. I guess to me a teen or a toddler or an adult can get equally tired and might be equally unbalanced

 

[Britgirlus]

Ok, first... I love my home, the USA... but this made me currious...

I wonder, were the two gentlemen who stood American or immigrant?

Immigrant - one was Hispanic, the other African

 

[brockash]

I'm sorry... did you read the rest of my response?? It said that my kids know enough to extend common courtesy to others... that they're being brought up to realize that the world does NOT revolve around them. It said that my son sat something like 3 or 4 times our last trip; the rest of the time he voluntarily gave up his seat to others.

How old is you son? My son is 8, and since he's been about 6 he's been giving his seat up to ppl. in more need of his seat than himself (in all honesty, he'd rather stand, just because he thinks it's cool.) No one is talking about healthy children who are able to reach the bars to hang on ect. We're talking about giving up a seat for someone (NOT JUST CHILDREN aka, on this thread as "special snowflakes") who needs it more. We're talking about elderly ppl., a person with some kind of handicap (that obviously wouldn't require a wheelchair, as they'd already have a seat) or anyone that isn't able to reach the bars to hold on like a healthy adult would. I highly doubt, and would certainly hope you're not making your 3 year old stand with nothing to hold onto, so you or someone else can sit. No one is saying that these ppl. are "entitled" to have the seat, but it's just the descent thing to do. If you (the general you) don't feel that way, and feel proud to "get one up" on the elderly person or the small child unable to reach the bars ect., then those ppl. obviously have their own issues.

 

[brockash]

The ones who glare and/or make snide remarks are expecting someone to get up and give them a seat.

I get your thinking, however when I see someone struggling to stand, whoever they may be, and I'm standing, and then I see many healthy adults/teens sitting and no one offer their seat (yes, I know some may have a hidden medical condition, but I gaurantee not all of them I'm not going to lie, I do think snide remarks in my head about them. I personally don't want their seat, so there's not an "entitlement" issue there; it's just sad to see so many ppl. that don't care enough to help out someone in need.